On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:28 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
> Agree partly. It's not meaningless, but it get's ambiguous very often.
> Take traffic signals as one example where the direction might be used:
> Besides an intersection someone could add the traffic lights on the four
> individual ways (instea
>
> To make it less ambiguous and easier I would deprecate forward/backward
> completely for nodes and advice to use cardinal coordinates for all nodes.
I think that would be ok for traffic_sign:direction=*,
but not for traffic_signals:direction=* or direction=* when used with
highway=stop/give_wa
Am 14.04.2014 08:28, schrieb Peter Wendorff:
> Hi,
>
> Am 13.04.2014 21:35, schrieb Steve Doerr:
>> I'm surprised that so many people are jumping to this conclusion. Let's
>> remember that a way is just a series of nodes in a particular order. So
>> a node is not necessarily an isolated object.
>
Hi,
Am 13.04.2014 21:35, schrieb Steve Doerr:
> I'm surprised that so many people are jumping to this conclusion. Let's
> remember that a way is just a series of nodes in a particular order. So
> a node is not necessarily an isolated object.
Agree
> In many cases, it exists solely as part of a wa
> Am 13/apr/2014 um 21:35 schrieb Steve Doerr :
>
> Thus the concept of direction is not meaningless for a node which is part of
> a way. I haven't examined any uses of the tag on a node, but I can imagine,
> for instance, that a node in a way with a direction attribute might be used
> to rep
> Am 13/apr/2014 um 16:45 schrieb fly :
>
> If we proper define the direction, there is not problem with direction=*
> on nodes. E.g. directions for benches are taken from a sitting position
> and in general the wiki talks about "facing the direction" which in my
> understanding would be the opp
I'm surprised that so many people are jumping to this conclusion. Let's
remember that a way is just a series of nodes in a particular order. So
a node is not necessarily an isolated object. In many cases, it exists
solely as part of a way. Thus the concept of direction is not
meaningless for a
Am 13.04.2014 16:25, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
>
>
>> Am 12/apr/2014 um 19:43 schrieb "John F. Eldredge" :
>>
>> Since a node is a point, and has no dimensions, a direction tag is
>> meaningless.
>
>
> +1
Martin, throught you wrote something different about benches last week
on talk@osm
I
> Am 12/apr/2014 um 19:43 schrieb "John F. Eldredge" :
>
> Since a node is a point, and has no dimensions, a direction tag is
> meaningless.
+1
cheers,
Martin
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I have no problems using forward/backward on way but on nodes this does
not make sense and in my opinion we need to discourage the usage in
favour of cardinal coordinates either as number or as letters (West,
South southeast, NWW, S and so on).
fly
Am 12.04.2014 20:39, schrieb John Packer:
> I ha
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:57:12PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote:
>
>
> Have to disagree here. There are plenty of real uses for reversing a
> way, and not everyone uses JOSM.
>
> Colin
+1 from someone who does use JOSM.
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On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:43:58PM +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> 2014-04-12 20:39 GMT+02:00 John Packer :
>
> > I have never used this key before because of the drawback you mentioned:
> > "There is no editor supporting this tag when reverting a way direction",
> >
>
> Does anyone else think that
On 4/12/14 5:57 PM, Colin Smale wrote:
>
>
> Have to disagree here. There are plenty of real uses for reversing a
> way, and not everyone uses JOSM.
>
> Colin
>
> On 2014-04-12 22:43, Janko Mihelić wrote:
>> Does anyone else think that the "reverse" tool should be removed from
>> editors? The
Have to disagree here. There are plenty of real uses for reversing a
way, and not everyone uses JOSM.
Colin
On 2014-04-12 22:43, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> 2014-04-12 20:39 GMT+02:00 John Packer :
>
>> I have never used this key before because of the drawback you mentioned:
>> "There is no e
2014-04-12 20:39 GMT+02:00 John Packer :
> I have never used this key before because of the drawback you mentioned:
> "There is no editor supporting this tag when reverting a way direction",
>
Does anyone else think that the "reverse" tool should be removed from
editors? There's no real use for i
I have never used this key before because of the drawback you mentioned:
"There is no editor supporting this tag when reverting a way direction",
but as far as I know, *direction=forward/backward* is used with
*highway=stop* and *highway=give_way* and maybe some other signs.
There are keys similar
Please, tell me for what kind of keys is the paragraph about
forward/backward useful. There are no examples and it is only about nodes.
Thanks
fly
Am 12.04.2014 20:00, schrieb John Packer:
> Do note that when used on benches, /forward/ and /backward/ are not
> valid values (which is what we are t
Do note that when used on benches, *forward* and *backward* are not valid
values (which is what we are talking about).
*amenity=bench* with a *direction=** key use angles and cardinal directions
as values.
2014-04-12 14:46 GMT-03:00 fly :
> Sorry, forgot the link.
>
> Yes, it does make sense and
Sorry, forgot the link.
Yes, it does make sense and is useful for benches and traffic_signals.
Am 12.04.2014 19:43, schrieb John F. Eldredge:
> Since a node is a point, and has no dimensions, a direction tag is
> meaningless.
>
>
> On April 12, 2014 12:20:26 PM CDT, fly wrote:
>> Hey
>>
>> As
Since a node is a point, and has no dimensions, a direction tag is meaningless.
On April 12, 2014 12:20:26 PM CDT, fly wrote:
> Hey
>
> As I had much fun with the last subject (noexit), I just can not hold
> myself back to jump into another bee nest.
>
> I read on the wiki page [1], that direc
Hey
As I had much fun with the last subject (noexit), I just can not hold
myself back to jump into another bee nest.
I read on the wiki page [1], that direction=forward/backward are valid
values also for nodes.
Could someone please explain me, how this can work.
I only find some major reasons n
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