Am Do., 13. Feb. 2020 um 12:02 Uhr schrieb ael :
>
> Well, yes, I thought that someone might say that. But such cases are
> very much the minority (except perhaps for motorways), which is why
> asphalt is still a reasonable default. I would expect an explicit
> tag for anything which is not asphal
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:38:14PM +, Philip Barnes wrote:
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> Asphalt is certainly not an unnecessary tag in the UK.
>
> Whilst its safe to assume all roads are paved unless tagged otherwise. A
> small number of lesser roads may not be paved.
>
> The same assumptions cannot be made about
Unpaved and paved values are valuable values.
It is not possible to tag the word with precision, all values are
imprecision of the real world.
Just some are more precise than others.
StreetComplete can have a quest for that, and there is a ticket about it
https://github.com/westnordost/StreetCompl
That can be a problem. If I survey streets on ground it is problematic
if it is tagged in such way. Then I struggle with a map app that show me
the surface, but with no visible difference between a sett or similar
surface or just surface=paved. Additionally I use StreetComple to find
missing surfac
On Wednesday, 12 February 2020, ael wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 07:15:42PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> >
> > >> >
> > >> In the UK too paved is implied, I have never used paved. Surface tags
> > >> such as asphalt, setts, concrete add the detail of what sort of paved.
>
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 07:15:42PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
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> >> >
> >> In the UK too paved is implied, I have never used paved. Surface tags such
> >> as asphalt, setts, concrete add the detail of what sort of paved.
> >>
> >
> > +1. Some of the Amazon people do seem to be
Feb 12, 2020, 12:51 by witwa...@disroot.org:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 11:14:54AM +, Philip Barnes wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, 11 February 2020, Volker Schmidt wrote:
>> > OK, you confirm that the "paved is implied" statement in the wiki page is
>> > to be read as "assuming we are in Germany ..
Volker Schmidt wrote:
> Do we have any agreed implied surface values for the different
> street categories ? per country?
We had this thread already, didn't we?
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-September/048330.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-Sep
As a cyclist living in city with too many road with (bad) setts I’m happy
to know when a road is asphalt or not.
@Volker, wiki says that only trunk and motorway imply paved, check their
pages.
Though like I already said, implying tags is bad because it let data reader
guess what you think is impl
On 2/12/20 05:51, ael wrote:
> +1. Some of the Amazon people do seem to be adding unnecessary and
> unsurveyed surface=asphalt tags to many roads in the UK which I find
> quite irritating.
The most I usually do without a survey is surface=paved or
surface=unpaved, with exceptions when I can see cl
On 2/11/20 09:51, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> Do we have any agreed implied surface values for the different street
> categories ? per country?
>
> I noticed this phrase
> "in many cases this is implied by the way itself (for highway=trunk to
> highway=residential, paved is implied) "
> on the page
>
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 11:14:54AM +, Philip Barnes wrote:
> On Tuesday, 11 February 2020, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> > OK, you confirm that the "paved is implied" statement in the wiki page is
> > to be read as "assuming we are in Germany ... paved is implied" and is not
> > referring to some wik
On Tuesday, 11 February 2020, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> OK, you confirm that the "paved is implied" statement in the wiki page is
> to be read as "assuming we are in Germany ... paved is implied" and is not
> referring to some wiki page that I have not yet detected (that was my
> question).
> I have
Rewritten to
"in many cases this can be successfully guessed from the way itself
(for highway=trunk to highway=residential in many regions "paved" is a safe
bet)"
Thanks for noticing and mentioning it here (but just editing would be OK).
Feb 11, 2020, 16:51 by vosc...@gmail.com:
> Do we have
OK, you confirm that the "paved is implied" statement in the wiki page is
to be read as "assuming we are in Germany ... paved is implied" and is not
referring to some wiki page that I have not yet detected (that was my
question).
I have no problem with the statement that most residential roads in G
On Tuesday, 11 February 2020, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> Do we have any agreed implied surface values for the different street
> categories ? per country?
>
> I noticed this phrase
> "in many cases this is implied by the way itself (for highway=trunk to
> highway=residential, paved is implied) "
>
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> Il giorno 11 feb 2020, alle ore 16:54, Volker Schmidt ha
> scritto:
>
> I thought there was no such agreement.
> (I hope to be wrong)
there isn’t such agreement, if there isn’t any data you have to guess. In some
areas you can suppose that 99,9% of all residential roads
Do we have any agreed implied surface values for the different street
categories ? per country?
I noticed this phrase
"in many cases this is implied by the way itself (for highway=trunk to
highway=residential, paved is implied) "
on the page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycle_routes/cyclabi
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