Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-09-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 09:20 Uhr schrieb Valor Naram via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Let me summarize > > Why `phone`: > - It's more used > - It's shorter > - Better to find in wiki > > Why `contact:phone`: > - It's more structured because it's a subkey of `contact` > - It's better

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-09-19 Thread Valor Naram via Tagging
ved oneBoth let us add more subkeys like `emergency`CheerioSören Reinecke alias Valor Naram Original Message Subject: Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purposeFrom: Colin Smale To: tagging@openstreetmap.orgCC: On 2019-08-26 15:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wr

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone

2019-08-26 Thread Dave F via Tagging
I've yet to see an argument for collecting all under the 'contact:*' tag that bears scrutiny . The "group them without having to keep a hardcoded list" falls down as they have to be split into separate variables to make sense of them. DaveF On 25/08/2019 20:48, marc marc wrote: Le 25.08.19

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone

2019-08-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2019, at 21:48, marc marc wrote: > > we need to switch all contact to key with contact: prefix > (pro : a datauser is able to group them without havng to keep > a hardcoded list of all key (phone, fax, email, web, social network ) > and update to list everytime

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-26 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-08-26 15:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > On 25. Aug 2019, at 18:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > there are at least two possibilities: > phone= > phone:emergency= > phone:staff= > > and: > phone= > emergency:phone= > staff:phone= > > Neither of which requires "contac

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2019, at 18:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > there are at least two possibilities: > > > phone= > phone:emergency= > phone:staff= > > and: > > phone= > emergency:phone= > staff:phone= > > Neither of which requires "contact:" exactly, I was about to reply the sa

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone

2019-08-25 Thread Warin
On 26/08/19 05:48, marc marc wrote: Le 25.08.19 à 16:55, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : What about deprecating the contact: prefix, at least for phone? not "AT LEAST FOR" that's the main issue ! having some contact with contact: prefix and some other without is a very bad idea. we need to switc

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Warin
On 26/08/19 00:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 25. Aug 2019, at 07:20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Type 'phone' into the OSMwiki search box and you get redirected to the key 'phone=*'. This gets preferential treatment to the key 'contact:phone=*'. seems fair th

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 05:58, marc marc wrote: > > phone=number1;number2 > ex https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/26861282 But that wouldn't allow you to specify what the different numbers are for, would it? eg phone=general_enquiries:number1;service:number2 Thanks Graeme _

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread marc marc
Le 25.08.19 à 17:42, Colin Smale a écrit : > Your model (using only phone=*) only allows an object to have a single > phone number. not true. phone=number1;number2 ex https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/26861282 18219 discint value for a total of 19694 count > one for general enquiries, one for e

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone

2019-08-25 Thread marc marc
Le 25.08.19 à 16:55, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > What about deprecating the contact: prefix, at least for phone? not "AT LEAST FOR" that's the main issue ! having some contact with contact: prefix and some other without is a very bad idea. we need to switch all contact to key with contact: pr

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Andrew Hain
August 2019 17:40 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:phone and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:contact don't provide any tagging method to tag number

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Valor Naram
fragmentation" in general. But deprecating `contact:phone` in favor of `phone` can be the logical step.CheersSören Reinecke alias Valor Naram Original Message ----Subject: Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purposeFrom: Colin Smale To: tagging@ope

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 16:42, Colin Smale wrote: > > Your model (using only phone=*) only allows an object to have a single phone > number. How do you propose modelling multiple phone numbers on a single > object? For example, one for general enquiries, one for emergencies, one for > staff,...

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 16:46, Colin Smale wrote: > Your model (using only phone=*) only allows an object to have a single > phone number. How do you propose modelling multiple phone numbers on a > single object? For example, one for general enquiries, one for emergencies, > one for staff,... > I

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Colin Smale
recating `contact:phone` > > Original Message ---- > Subject: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one > purpose > From: Martin Koppenhoefer > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > CC: > >> sent from a phone >> >&

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Valor Naram
> What about deprecating the contact: prefix, at least for phone? It doesn’t seem it will ever make it and is basically a deliberate tag fragmentation.Yes, I recommend deprecating `contact:phone` Original Message Subject: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags

[Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2019, at 07:20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Type 'phone' into the OSMwiki search box and you get redirected to the key > 'phone=*'. > This gets preferential treatment to the key 'contact:phone=*'. seems fair that “key:phone” shows up first for a se