I'm going to throw Dallas and Tulsa into that mix, too.
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com
wrote:
I myself, and I think more Dutch mappers, are using bicycle=designated
(along with
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote:
I myself, and I think more Dutch mappers, are using bicycle=designated
(along with highway=residential or perhaps highway=unclassified) for a
so called fietsstraat (cyclestreet). It's a road that has been set
up for
Does it have bike route signage? It's designated.
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com
wrote:
bicycle=designated is widely used but it not well defined.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bicycle%3Ddesignatedredirect=no
is just redirect,
If it's striped as a cycleway but also allows pedestrians, that'd be
highway=cycleway, foot=yes. For situations like the divided parts of the
Riverparks East trail, that'd be highway=cycleway (though even though this
already implies foot=no, I explicitly tag as such, since pedestrians have
their
Am 20.08.2014 04:45, schrieb John F. Eldredge:
Are you allowed to walk on the cycle path while pushing a broken-down
bicycle (for example, if the chain breaks)? I have been on some bicycle
paths where brush grows up to the edge of the path, so there would not
be room to walk next to the path.
May be splitting hairs, but if your bicycle breaks down on a cycle-only
path, you will surely be allowed to push it along the cycle-ony path to the
next possible off-ramp.
On 21 August 2014 17:52, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 20.08.2014 04:45, schrieb John F. Eldredge:
Are you
when there is no room to push you will stay on the cycleway until you can leave
it
Il giorno 21/ago/2014, alle ore 17:52, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com ha
scritto:
Am 20.08.2014 04:45, schrieb John F. Eldredge:
Are you allowed to walk on the cycle path while pushing a broken-down
In The Netherlands we more or less have agreement on this scheme
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle_tags_map#Cycleway_tagsfor
tagging cycleways, cycle streets. I've also noticed this is totally
different from the schemes used in Germany and other countries. During the
discussion on the
2014-08-19 8:22 GMT+02:00 Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com:
In The Netherlands we more or less have agreement on this scheme
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle_tags_map#Cycleway_tagsfor
tagging cycleways, cycle streets. I've also noticed this is totally
different from the schemes used in
Il giorno 18/ago/2014, alle ore 22:00, SomeoneElse
li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk ha scritto:
They _exactly_ fit the British English definition of a cycleway, actually (in
fact, most places that I've been apart from Germany) - you can both walk and
cycle on them.
In Germany, France and
On 19/08/2014 09:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
FWIW, the documented default in OSM (if such thing as defaults is
accepted anyway) is foot=no according to this page linked from the
cycleway definition:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions
That wiki page
On 2014-08-19 at 10:23:51 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Il giorno 18/ago/2014, alle ore 22:00, SomeoneElse
li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk ha scritto:
They _exactly_ fit the British English definition of a cycleway, actually
(in fact, most places that I've been apart from Germany) - you
Il giorno 19/ago/2014, alle ore 10:55, SomeoneElse
li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk ha scritto:
It's worth noting that all of the countries listed there (bar a few, some
already mentioned) have foot=yes on a cycleway either all the time or in
some circumstances -
Have a closer look and
Il giorno 19/ago/2014, alle ore 11:35, Elena ``of Valhalla''
elena.valha...@gmail.com ha scritto:
In Italy this is true in theory, but in practice cycleways that aren't
combined cycleway + footway (with the corresponding sign) are extremely
rare.
there is one 50m from my home, might
2014-08-19 9:11 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com:
2014-08-19 8:22 GMT+02:00 Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com:
In The Netherlands we more or less have agreement on this scheme
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle_tags_map#Cycleway_tagsfor
tagging cycleways, cycle streets. I've
Are you allowed to walk on the cycle path while pushing a broken-down bicycle
(for example, if the chain breaks)? I have been on some bicycle paths where
brush grows up to the edge of the path, so there would not be room to walk next
to the path.
On August 19, 2014 3:23:51 AM CDT, Martin
bicycle=designated is widely used but it not well defined.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bicycle%3Ddesignatedredirect=no
is just redirect, to page that describes hopelessly inclusive rules It
may imply extra usage rights for the given mode of transport (i.e. normally
a
So how one should tag in following situations?
1) official cycleway
bicycle=designated or official
This implies in many countries the obligation to use the cycleway if
running parallel to a road
2) road/footway/path widely used by cyclists, cycling is legal
bicycle=yes
3) road/footway/path
Am 18.08.2014 14:38, schrieb Mateusz Konieczny:
bicycle=designated is widely used but it not well defined.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bicycle%3Ddesignatedredirect=no
is just redirect, to page that describes hopelessly inclusive rules It
may imply extra usage rights for
2014-08-18 15:20 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com:
I) redefining =designated to the definition of =official
I thought they are already eqivalent
There are differences. See
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Dofficial and
On 8/18/14 9:20 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote:
So how one should tag in following situations?
1) official cycleway
bicycle=designated or official
This implies in many countries the obligation to use the cycleway if
running parallel to a road
official is not in the wiki here:
I myself, and I think more Dutch mappers, are using bicycle=designated
(along with highway=residential or perhaps highway=unclassified) for a
so called fietsstraat (cyclestreet). It's a road that has been set
up for bicycles, but has access for all road users. Often they have a
board like
2014-08-18 15:36 GMT+02:00 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com:
1) official cycleway
highway=cycleway
What about something that is both footway and cyleway (segregated or not
segregated)?
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On 8/18/14 9:42 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
2014-08-18 15:36 GMT+02:00 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com
mailto:andreeng...@gmail.com:
1) official cycleway
highway=cycleway
What about something that is both footway and cyleway (segregated or
not segregated)?
these are
Am 18.08.2014 15:42, schrieb Mateusz Konieczny:
2014-08-18 15:36 GMT+02:00 Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com
mailto:andreeng...@gmail.com:
1) official cycleway
highway=cycleway
What about something that is both footway and cyleway (segregated or not
segregated)?
On 18.08.2014 15:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
For example according to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated
bicycle=designated may be tagged
on suggested route, in general conditions are unclear and really
inclusive.
I believe that part of the designated wiki page is
Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
bicycle=designated is widely used but it not well defined.
I didn't understand bicycle=designated until I visited Germany for the first
time earlier this year. Now I realise why it's used... though I still
strongly disagree with it.
bicycle=designated exists so that
Am 18.08.2014 19:00, schrieb Richard Fairhurst:
Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
bicycle=designated is widely used but it not well defined.
I didn't understand bicycle=designated until I visited Germany for the first
time earlier this year. Now I realise why it's used... though I still
strongly
Il giorno 18/ago/2014, alle ore 19:00, Richard Fairhurst
rich...@systemed.net ha scritto:
Of course, this is yet more nonsense that only exists because of the
accursed 'highway=path' tag.
The first scenario can simply be tagged 'highway=cycleway' and the second
one 'highway=footway,
On 18/08/2014 20:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Another point was that ways with signs like this
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:120px-Zeichen_240.svg.png
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/a/aa/120px-Zeichen_241.svg.png
are neither cycleways nor footways, they are both at the same
You mean the British legal definition of cycleway.
Just to ad another bit of legal aspects in this. In Italy, on ways signed
like like this
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:120px-Zeichen_240.svg.png, the
pedestran has priority over he cyclist.
On 18 August 2014 22:00, SomeoneElse
2014-08-18 22:45 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com:
You mean the British legal definition of cycleway.
Just to ad another bit of legal aspects in this. In Italy, on ways signed
like like this
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:120px-Zeichen_240.svg.png, the
pedestran has
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