On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Fernando Trebien
fernando.treb...@gmail.com wrote:
For several applications, such as navigation software, a distinction
would be very interesting, allowing the display of rural primaries and
secondaries when zooming out, a more accurate speed guess when the
Both maxspeed=countrycode:zone type and maxspeed=zone type are
evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits. Please, just
use maxspeed=number.
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2014-06-17 11:09 GMT+02:00 Andrew Shadura and...@shadura.me:
Both maxspeed=countrycode:zone type and maxspeed=zone type are
evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits. Please, just
use maxspeed=number.
I see this similarly, use maxspeed=number and source:maxspeed (to
I disagree with just using a number, the tags are there to indicate that the
mapper had interpreted the speed limit from the type of road.
Should the limits change they make finding the limits that require changes
easier.
The number should be tagged, and I would not expect a data consumer to use
On 6/17/14 5:24 AM, Philip Barnes wrote:
The number should be tagged, and I would not expect a data consumer to use
maxspeed tags, they are useful for validation.
there are any number of reasons why a consumer might use a
maxspeed tag, the most obvious of them being a routing engine
attempting
Hello,
On 17 June 2014 13:36, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
On 6/17/14 5:24 AM, Philip Barnes wrote:
The number should be tagged, and I would not expect a data consumer to use
maxspeed tags, they are useful for validation.
there are any number of reasons why a consumer might
Hello,
On 17 June 2014 11:24, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
I disagree with just using a number, the tags are there to indicate that the
mapper had interpreted the speed limit from the type of road.
Should the limits change they make finding the limits that require changes
easier.
There are several differences in my view:
1. When viewing the map offline, the user wants to see only rural roads
when zooming out really far.
2. If you don't have maxspeed for a particular way, a clever app that knows
typical speeds for each type of way in each country can make a more
educated
Andrew Shadura wrote:
Both maxspeed=countrycode:zone type and maxspeed=zone type
are evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits.
Please, just use maxspeed=number.
Any router that deals with more than one type of traffic will need to do
that anyway, as many places have
On 6/17/14 8:24 AM, SomeoneElse wrote:
* I've yet to see a bicycle router enforce the (pedalling) furiously
implications of
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/10-11/89#pb3-l1g18 , for
example!
i think there's a lot of interest in pedestrian and cycling routing,
but it still has a long
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key identifiers,
e.g.
* door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding / revolving / ... (still
this is somehow ambiguous, because type might also be
On 17/06/14 14:28, Pieren wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key
identifiers, e.g.
* door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding /
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
This roundabout originally had no lights, but they were added with the
ring road.
Interesting. Now you get the disadvantages of both systems : you have
the unnecessary waitings on red lights and you use a maximum of
2014-06-17 14:28 GMT+02:00 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
My suggestion therefor is to be more explicit with the key identifiers,
e.g.
* door_type (or door:type) for hinged / sliding / revolving / ... (still
this is somehow ambiguous, because type might also be interpreted as
glass door, wooden
At a guess, door=opening means that there is an open doorway, with no door
present to close it off.
On June 17, 2014 8:12:49 AM CDT, Michael Maier
michael.ma...@student.tugraz.at wrote:
On 17/06/14 14:28, Pieren wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
There is a similar situation near Geel, Belgium. First they constructed
several roundabouts along the R14, then they turned them back to regular
crossings
Only the roundabout with the N19 is kept at the moment, but there they
placed traffic signals (http://osm.org/go/0ErQgoDk--?m=relation=1263541
2014-06-17 16:29 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com:
There is a similar situation near Geel, Belgium. First they constructed
several roundabouts along the R14, then they turned them back to regular
crossings
Only the roundabout with the N19 is kept at the moment, but there they
placed
* Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com [2014-06-17 16:43 +0200]:
you can find big roundabouts with traffic lights in most of the big
European cities, another reason (besides the controlling the motorized
traffic) is to let pedestrians (and sometimes cyclists) cross.
I know of a traffic
Not as rare as you think, and growing more common. I go through 2 or 3
roundabouts regularly. The US official definitions defined in the MUTCD
are that roundabouts are uncontrolled or have yield signs entering, traffic
circles have stop signs. Neither are signal controlled in the MUTCD. We
do
At least one roundabout in Portland is actually square.
On Jun 13, 2014 3:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Am 13/giu/2014 um 18:28 schrieb Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com:
Out of curiosity, what are others' criteria for a roundabout?
priority for the inner
Arc du Triumph?
On Jun 17, 2014 8:32 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk
wrote:
This roundabout originally had no lights, but they were added with the
ring road.
Interesting. Now you get the disadvantages of both systems
How would you tag this intersection in Mountain View, California?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mountain+View,+CA/@37.387343,-122.080352,3a,89.9y,118.3h,70.82t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHblffm0KZ7pzUXLakrlBQw!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x808fb7495bec0189:0x7c17d44a466baf9b
Should it be tagged as
I'd call it a full blown roundabout, since you're still expected to go
around it to the right in order to go left.
On Jun 17, 2014 3:43 PM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote:
How would you tag this intersection in Mountain View, California?
It's certainly not a mini-roundabout, because the centre piece is not
intended to be traversed by vehicles (see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmini_roundabout)
On 17 June 2014 22:43, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote:
How would you tag this intersection in Mountain View,
This was my thoughts against proposing zone tagging for Oregon speed
limits.
On Jun 17, 2014 4:10 AM, Andrew Shadura and...@shadura.me wrote:
Both maxspeed=countrycode:zone type and maxspeed=zone type are
evil, as we need to have a separate DB for those zonal limits. Please, just
use
Osmand and pretty much any other nav software worth it's salt already
interprets maxspeed (though I wish minspeed was also factored in more
often).
On Jun 17, 2014 4:25 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:
I disagree with just using a number, the tags are there to indicate that
the
Maxspeed is not the only issue. See my previous message:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-June/017860.html
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Osmand and pretty much any other nav software worth it's salt already
interprets maxspeed
No. One of the characteristics of a roundabout is that you have precedence
when you are in it. In this case there is a main road that has precedence
over the two minor roads.
If you want to turn left (looking in the direction of the photo) you have
to yield to oncoming traffic coming from the
Wow, really? Got a photo?
On Jun 17, 2014 4:22 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
I've seen one actual mini round about in Seattle and one in Mount Vernon.
Certainly there are numerous traffic calming islands incorrectly tagged as
mini runabouts.
On Jun 17, 2014 1:10 PM, Paul
Wonder if we're talking regional differences. The south of France is known
to follow the Vienna Convention on Traffic (traffic in the circle yields to
traffic entering from the right), and the US and Canada make no signage
differences between a roundabout and a traffic circle. For navigation
IMHO I think that the main idea in the concept of roundabout is that
the center of the cycle (which may not be a perfect circle, sometimes
not even an ellipse) has right of way over entering traffic. That's
why I find it weird when:
- Croatian (and perhaps some other) authorities apply the
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