Re: [Tagging] water=pool

> On Mar 13, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I'd rather use water=stream_pool without the lake deviation, but then it > still is in conflict with water=river. Are these actual features anyway, or > are they simply the wider parts of the river? +1 for stream_pool. The fe

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

You might use waterway as the main tag to prevent confusion with the top-level tag of water=* Either waterway=pool (TagInfo: 26 uses), or waterway=stream_pool, would be better than water=stream_pool. I still think it better to avoid using the word stream in the value because then a pool on a river

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:56:49 +0700 Dave Swarthout wrote: > > You could also add emergency=yes to the above or create a new tag, > emergency=spillway waterway=spillway spillway=emergency https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/waterway=spillway#overview ___

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:12:02 +0100 Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:56:49 +0700 > Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > > You could also add emergency=yes to the above or create a new tag, > > emergency=spillway > > waterway=spillway > spillway=emergency > > https://taginfo.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

sent from a phone > On 22 Mar 2017, at 09:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > I answered too fast... Later in the thread John offers > waterway=spillway + emergency=yes + surface=* which seem even better > because it uses the generic emergency=yes instead of creating a new > spillway=emergency

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I would tag them as internet cafes, you can't get serious coffee there. > ;-) > ...and that's how Martin was found murdered under the Alaska Way Viaduct. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@ope

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

sent from a phone > On 22 Mar 2017, at 08:53, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Either waterway=pool (TagInfo: 26 uses), or waterway=stream_pool, would be > better than water=stream_pool. I would prefer water over waterway as a key, because this is about areas/polygons, for which we typically use

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Given the effect of the stopping process on the overall travel time > (mainly for cars), we need a way that can be used by routing algorithms. > It's even worse with bicycles, since actual human effort has to happen to accelerate from a s

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

Missed replying to this earlier... On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I would consider having to create (and manage) relations for this tedious, > and error prone in case of editing. Turn restrictions are extremely common and managed using relations, so we know relations

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:57 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote: > BTW the Stop sign is even more frequent in Italy than in the US, but it >> influences much less the travel time, because drivers simply don't stop >> most of the time, contrary to the practice in the US, or Germany, or the UK. >> > > Don't

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:46 PM, LeTopographeFou wrote: > In real life a traffic light is more often associated to another device > such as a camera, a pedestrian light... than stop signs which stands > generally on their own. So direction=* might be enought for stops and > give_ways most of the

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

2017-03-22 10:21 GMT+01:00 Paul Johnson : > ...and that's how Martin was found murdered under the Alaska Way Viaduct. > I'm really sorry for the OT, but this moment is perfect for this: http://brilliantmaps.com/italian-food/ Lorenzo ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

-- Dave Swarthout writes: > This is embarrassing but relevant to this conversation. I've been mapping > intensely for several years but adding stop signs was something I rarely > did. I only started adding stop signs within the last year. Probably I started because OsmAnd will give a warning,

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > sent from a phone > >> On 22 Mar 2017, at 09:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: >> >> I answered too fast... Later in the thread John offers >> waterway=spillway + emergency=yes + surface=* which seem even better >> because it uses the generic emergency=yes instead of c

Re: [Tagging] Starbucks or Starbucks Coffee

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I would tag them as internet cafes, you can't get serious coffee there. ;-) I agree 100%. The big thing Starbucks has going for it, speaking as a coffee snob, is that their product is uniformly mediocre world wide. On Wed, Mar 22, 2017

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

Quoted sections have been edited down to only show parts I am responding to: > On Mar 22, 2017, at 5:37 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > For highway=traffic_signals, the normal situation is that it's on a > node, and affects all ways entering the node. Or it's on a way and > affects both directions -

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:24:39 +0100 > From: Martin Koppenhoefer > To: daveswarth...@gmail.com, "Tag discussion, strategy and related > tools" > Subject: Re: [Tagging] water=pool > Message-ID: > > > > sent from a phone > > > On 22 Mar 2017, at 08:53, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > > E

Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

You might use the "seasonal" key, which seems like it might already be used to indicate if a highway is open or closed seasonally. I can't find a proposal for that use. This could be seasonal=spring;summer;autumn There are 54,768 instances of seasonal=yes, which seems fairly useless unless you a

Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Micah Cochran wrote: > You might use the "seasonal" key, which seems like it might already be > used to indicate if a highway is open or closed seasonally. I can't find a > proposal for that use. > > This could be seasonal=spring;summer;autumn > > There are 54,76

Re: [Tagging] how to care about different seasonal road close?

On 23-Mar-17 08:52 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Micah Cochran > wrote: You might use the "seasonal" key, which seems like it might already be used to indicate if a highway is open or closed seasonally. I can't find a proposal f

Re: [Tagging] Adding directionality to stop signs

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Turn restrictions are extremely common and managed using relations, so we > know relations don't have to be hard. It's possible for the editors to > adapt to make this easy. There's no real reason enforcement and similar > from/to/device

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

> > Anyone else with an opinion ? Two of us might be the very beginning of a > consensus but we need a little more before even putting a proposal > page up on the wiki... > I think to include direction inside the tag with a subkey :forward :backward following the scheme for lanes and so one are th

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

generally it is unsafe to rely on a "direction" like forward or backward as tag on a node. Nodes do not have directions, and there is no relation from a node to a single way, the relation is from a way to a node and many ways can reference the same node, that's not an error. Will it become forbidde

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

Ah yea, emergency=yes is bad. 3 questions: - mapping levees/dykes with additional area extent tags (like river+ riverbank) - mapping spillways in a similar fashion. - mapping levee control gates (buried in the levee) ~~ Javbw > On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:42 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > A

Re: [Tagging] traffic_signals:direction=* vs. direction=*

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 4:51 PM, yo paseopor wrote: > > Anyone else with an opinion ? Two of us might be the very beginning of a > consensus but we need a little more before even putting a proposal > page up on the wiki... > > I think to include direction inside the tag with a subkey :forward :ba

Re: [Tagging] Spillways

On 22 March 2017 at 16:56, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Weir does not seem appropriate for this type of thing. There is a tag, > waterway=spillway, that seems like a good fit - 81 uses so far. I've seen these tagged as waterway=drain which is close but agree that waterway=spillway is better. Would be