Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Looks good Erkin Question, thanks. We have Security Training "schools" (companies to train private security guards) & also Language Schools (usually to teach English to non-English speakers). Would these come under =speciality, or possibly =vocational? Would it be possibly be an idea to also

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread marc marc
Le 17. 09. 17 à 07:54, Erkin Alp Güney a écrit : > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alternative +1 for good inventory work

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread José G Moya Y .
Hi, Erick. I'm just a newbie in tagging, but I find a reason for keeping school and university at the "amenity" tag. These educative institutions are often easy to spot (they span over an entire building and in many cases they have a campus or playground), while other "education" institutions or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 17.09.2017 07:54, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: > This brings education key instead of amenity=school. In my opinion, and speaking broadly, the job of the OSM tagging system is to answer two questions: - What kind of feature is this? - What properties does this feature have? The first question can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
I have partly inspired by Turkish standardized education institution identification guide. Most of the school kinds mentioned, except universities, including ministry itself has distinct color codes identifying what kind of education institution they are (for example, all secondary schools have to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 17. Sep 2017, at 10:52, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > . If we were to reform > the tagging system, my ideal solution would be a "type"/"thing"/"class" > key that is used for the main tag of all features. the downside with this approach is that many

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
> Another is magnetic levitation trains, this one having completed its > draft quickly. This brings railway=maglev tag and its associated > rendering. > Resent as per listmaster's request.

[Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
17-09-2017 11:16 tarihinde Erkin Alp Güney yazdı: > Driving school is a government-recognized education institution and > usually they have a monopoly in driving education. Hence they are > considered specialty schools, not cram-schools. However, due to > commonality, they need a separate tag. We

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
They go under education=specialty. education=vocational is intended for post-secondary vocational schools. Regarding other question, yes, you can tag specialty=* or vocation=* to denote which subjects are trained, however, I do not think OSM database can cope with a generic university's whole

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
That was a leftover from previous proposal. Edited proposal page to reflect that all educational institutions are covered. 17-09-2017 09:26 tarihinde marc marc yazdı: > Le 17. 09. 17 à 07:54, Erkin Alp Güney a écrit : > >>

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread José G Moya Y .
Thanks for your response, Erkin. The idea of putting driving license and some speciality schools under "cram" schools came from the fact that, despite of needind a special license, in my country (Spain) these centers do not make exams, they only prepare for an official exam done by the government.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
These are applied educational research centers and should be tagged "education=applied_education". Completely different from a cram school. I do not know of any jurisdiction where a driving school is entitled to license a driver by itself. These examinations are government regulated otherwise

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Colin Smale
I would suggest there needs to be a separation between the school as an organisation, a campus, a building, and the courses provided. Here in NL there are many mixed colleges, which provide statutory education to kids (16+), adult academic education and vocational training. Such colleges often

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Erkin, Am 17.09.2017 um 07:54 schrieb Erkin Alp Güney: > Two RFCs by me are ready. One of them are education reform(actually > delayed a bit). This brings education key instead of amenity=school. > Full proposal at >

[Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hi everyone The current situation of how public outdoor and indoor swimming pool facilities are tagged is not ideal. There is no dedicated tag, so they are all tagged differently: e.g. as water parks, sports centres, swimming pools, recreation grounds or parks. However, these tags all define

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread marc marc
Le 17. 09. 17 à 18:20, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : > a sub-tag swimming_facility=outdoor/indoor existing indoor=yes/no is not enough ? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/indoor#values ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread José G Moya Y .
Yes, please!! It's inconsistent to have a tag to mark the outdoor area surrounding a sports swimming pool or a water park and no tag to mark the outdoor area around a not-for-sports, not-theme-park swimming pool. I said that in the swimming pool discusion. If you have a tag for the facility, you

[Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hi everyone The current situation of how public outdoor and indoor swimming pool facilities are tagged is not ideal. There is no dedicated tag, so they are all tagged differently: e.g. as water parks, sports centres, swimming pools, recreation grounds or parks. However, these tags all define

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
Maglev is intended for HST usage. Monorail is usually intended for urban commutes. Different uses, different tagging. Maglev needs to render prominently, urban monorail does not. 18-09-2017 07:54 tarihinde Holger Jeromin yazdı: > Currently we have world wide one disused, one active test rail and

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Hi, > I came across an interesting routing problem the other day. A section of > the Richardson Highway in Alaska was relocated in 2015 by the Alaska DOT in > anticipation of erosion or flooding by the nearby Delta

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-09-17 18:20 GMT+02:00 Selfish Seahorse : > > The lack of a dedicated tag and the different tagging prevents > searching for nearby swimming pool facilities. Furthermore, it is not > possible to distinguish between indoor and outdoor swimming pool > facilities. >

[Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Dave Swarthout
Hi, I came across an interesting routing problem the other day. A section of the Richardson Highway in Alaska was relocated in 2015 by the Alaska DOT in anticipation of erosion or flooding by the nearby Delta River. However, the old highway is still present, is still paved, and is shorter than the

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I came across an interesting routing problem the other day. A section of > the Richardson Highway in Alaska was relocated in 2015 by the Alaska DOT in > anticipation of erosion or flooding by the nearby Delta

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
How about =proposed? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:proposed "For roads to be removed, use *proposed:highway*=no. This is understood by (at least) ITO's Transport Construction map." " - a further tag could be added to illustrate the expected

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC for multiple features - Education Reform - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks for clarification re "types" of training schools. Carrying on along the driving side of things but diverging a bit - how about flying & boating training schools? It was mentioned that for driver training, the school only teaches the student how to drive, then they must go to the Transport

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 17.09.2017 20:08, marc marc wrote: Le 17. 09. 17 à 18:20, Selfish Seahorse a écrit : a sub-tag swimming_facility=outdoor/indoor existing indoor=yes/no is not enough ? https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/indoor#values Both are in use: * indoor=yes/no * outdoor=yes/no They are in use

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Dave Swarthout
I'm so enamored of the new ESRI imagery I had forgotten to check *all* the available imagery in that area. Thanks, Hans. It appears that not only has some of the old pavement been removed but there is no bridge over the small stream anymore. The highway isn't even continuous. I'll check with Will

[Tagging] Access by permit

2017-09-17 Thread Dave Swarthout
I'm trying to tag some stocked fishing ponds that reside on a military reservation in Alaska, Fort Greely. The ponds are stocked by the Alaska Department of Fish & Game but require a special permit for access. This is from the Department of Fish & Game website: These lakes are on military land. A

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposals - RFC - Magnetic Levitation Trains

2017-09-17 Thread Holger Jeromin
Erkin Alp Güney Wrote in message: > > Another is magnetic levitation trains, this one having completed its >> draft quickly. This brings railway=maglev tag and its associated >> rendering. >> > Resent as per

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

2017-09-17 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I'm trying to tag some stocked fishing ponds that reside on a military > reservation in Alaska, Fort Greely. The ponds are stocked by the > Alaska Department of Fish & Game but require a special permit for access.

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Clifford Snow
The old hwy looks like it is being torn apart in a few area looking at the Digital Globe standard imagery. Track may be more appropriate. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > DigitalGlobe Standard Imagery has the new road. Also we have a more up to

Re: [Tagging] Swimming pool facilities

2017-09-17 Thread Marc Gemis
I'm pretty sure this was discussed in the past on this mailing list. Is there a descend way to search in the tagging archive, it would interesting to see what was discussed then. m. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Selfish Seahorse wrote: > Hi everyone > > The

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

2017-09-17 Thread Hans De Kryger
DigitalGlobe Standard Imagery has the new road. Also we have a more up to date map than Google in that area  *Regards,* *Hans* On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > How about =proposed? > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:proposed > > "For