Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

2018-06-04 Thread Peter Elderson
They are within blanket-type landuses such a commercial, industrial, residential. They are not constructions like most man_made=* objects are. More like the gazillion other landuses within the blanket types. It's meant to replace the many small areas now marked as landuse=forest, landuse=scrub,

[Tagging] Hamlet is always an unincorporated place in OSM?

2018-06-04 Thread santamariense
Hello everyone, In Brazil the tag place=hamlet is being used for smallest places, however, according to Wikipedia, hamlet may be an unincorporated place. And, I've always observed that place=hamlet isn't in the correct hierarchy when it's shown in Nominatin. Example: São José da Porteirinha (

Re: [Tagging] Hamlet is always an unincorporated place in OSM?

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:06 PM, santamariense wrote: > > The question is: Is Nominatin wrong or are we mapping a thing that > there not be in Brazil and a best tag should be applied? Or maybe a > new tag like unincorporated=yes/no should be created to complement the > type of hamlet? > It can

Re: [Tagging] Hamlet is always an unincorporated place in OSM?

2018-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4. Jun 2018 22:06 by imagens...@gmail.com : > are we mapping a thing that > there not be in Brazil Add I understand it place=hamlet describes very small settlement and administrative boundaries are for mapping legal hierarchy. See

Re: [Tagging] Hamlet is always an unincorporated place in OSM?

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Allen
Here's how it sort of worked in the UK. A city has a cathedral. Or a royal charter. Or is a big town that feels like calling itself a city. A town has a weekly (or more frequent) market. Or used to have a market. No cathedral. A village has one or more churches. Or used to, before they

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Allen
Ummm, why not use existing tagging and add operator=name_of_local_authority? No need to invent a new tag No need to invent new values specifically to indicate it's municipal. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

2018-06-04 Thread Peter Elderson
No need to tag the operator, it's just how it's collectively known here. In fact nobody knows or cares who actually takes care of it, as long as it is kept tidy by people in safety vests leaning on gardening gear and operating loud chainsawlike machines. People feel that using all kinds of

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Peter Elderson wrote: > > > Problem is, landcover is not rendered. Nobody is going to retag for > notrendered. Probably never going to change. > I just checked, since I see grass rendered where I mapped it. When I ask iD for grass it gives me landuse=grass.

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

2018-06-04 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Peter Elderson wrote: > No need to tag the operator, it's just how it's collectively known here. > In fact nobody knows or cares who actually takes care of it, as long as it > is kept tidy by people in safety vests leaning on gardening gear and > operating loud

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

2018-06-04 Thread Peter Elderson
Op ma 4 jun. 2018 om 23:30 schreef Paul Allen > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Peter Elderson > wrote: > >> No need to tag the operator, it's just how it's collectively known here. >> In fact nobody knows or cares who actually takes care of it, as long as it >> is kept tidy by people in

Re: [Tagging] Hamlet is always an unincorporated place in OSM?

2018-06-04 Thread Bill Ricker
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > Here's how it sort of worked in the UK. > ​In the early days of Colonial New England, town governance and church parish borders were essentially identified. When the sea-side town of Ipswich opened a new section of land further inland for

Re: [Tagging] Hamlet is always an unincorporated place in OSM?

2018-06-04 Thread Fernando Trebien
Interesting. I'm not sure if this is a bug in Nominatim or a misunderstanding of OSM definitions. Let's see: - Dilermando de Aguiar is a Brazilian municipality with 3308 inhabitants, mapped as an administrative boundary with admin_level=8 with a place=village as its admin_centre node - Sede is a

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

2018-06-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
4 Jun 2018, 23:50 by pelder...@gmail.com: > > Problem is, landcover is not rendered. Nobody is going to retag for > notrendered. Probably never going to change. > Using landcover (probably in addition to rendered tags) increases chance that it will be rendered by at least some.