Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles - transport

Where a hiking route uses some transport to get from one walking section to another should there be a roll 'transport'??? I know one of the American routes uses a canoe to cross a river, and at least one of the Australian routes uses row boats to cross a river. And, yes, this flows on from

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles - transport

if all the ideas for roles in routes are combined, you will need multiple roles for the relation members. When a member of a cycling route relation is tagged as a waterway or a railway, isn't that all the information you need to know it's a transfer? If the member is a relation, you could tag

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

sent from a phone > On 14. Dec 2019, at 08:02, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > Thanks everybody for the feedback. > I've added the bicycle=dismount on the railway. if I saw this I would think I’d have to push the bike there, not take a train Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

sent from a phone > On 14. Dec 2019, at 03:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wikipedia tags should include the relevant language.. it should include the relevant article. You cannot assume that all articles linked from a specific article to versions in different languages are all

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

I agree with Martin. As said before the tagging of - take the train (and your rucksack) - board the bus with your bicycle - take the ski-lift to get to the start of the next downhill section - take the water bus with your bike and be prepared that the captain does not accept any

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

On Saturday 14 December 2019, Warin wrote: > > I think this is ok. But is there a better way? > > The particular relation is 55737 the Schouten Islands. You mean https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/557367 That looks correct, archipelagos are normal multipolygon relations. Building them

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Telecom distribution point

Hi Everyone, Sorry for long time to answeryour questions, Le mar. 10 déc. 2019 à 19:58, Paul Allen a écrit : > > Do you consider British Telecom DACS units to be a part of this? They're > old technology and I > wouldn't expect new deployment as they're incompatible with ADSL but there > may

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

Hi, On 14.12.19 01:57, Paul Allen wrote: > How does the company itself capitalize its own name?  Paint the label.  > Even if it's an ugly label. I tend to view capitalisation as a design element not a part of the name. If they write their name in Comic Sans then I won't try to copy that either,

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 14/12/2019 10:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: if I saw this I would think I’d have to push the bike there, not take a train Well, yes - you would have to push it into the carriage. Your assumption would only occur if the railway tag is ignored. Cheers DaveF

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > I added a bicycle route that implies the use of a funicular > (railway). I'm not sure how to "tell" in the relation that > you have to take the train and not ride the railway. Just add the railway to the bike route relation, and make sure that each end of the

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Adding a bicycle=dismount is OK I suppose, but I'm unsure there's really > a problem. This street in Padova carries a (mono-rail) tram (railway=tram) and is closed to bicycles, tagged with bicycle=no. I intended to re-tag this with bicycle=dismount in

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

My take on this would be to create a separate route relation for the funicular part and add that to the bicycle route relation. For validation purposes that would be the simplest and clearest way of doing things. Simply adding the rails would mean that you'd have to cycle on the rails, or at least

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 14/12/2019 07:00, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Thanks everybody for the feedback. I've added the bicycle=dismount on the railway. I think we still need some role in the relation to better describe the situation. Adding a bicycle=dismount is OK I suppose, but I'm unsure there's really a

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 11:21, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 14.12.19 01:57, Paul Allen wrote: > > How does the company itself capitalize its own name? Paint the label. > > Even if it's an ugly label. > > I tend to view capitalisation as a design element not a part of the > name. If they write their

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

A router should never assume that a route tag overrules a way or node tag, for access. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op za 14 dec. 2019 om 15:43 schreef Volker Schmidt : > > > > Adding a bicycle=dismount is OK I suppose, but I'm unsure there's really >> a problem. > > This street in Padova

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Jesus would float, obviously, but what about his bicycle? On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 20:59 Peter Elderson wrote: > We happily add ferry transfers to hiking routes. Nobody has been found > trying to walk on the water. Nobody that we know of... > > Fr gr Peter Elderson > > > Op vr 13 dec. 2019 om

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

: > A router should never assume that a route tag overrules a way or node tag, > for access. > That is certainly correct. My point was that route membership or not can and does influence the preference assigned to that way for routing purposes. > ___

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 01:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > When that is how the business name is shown, what is our policy for it? I thought we had a policy for it, but i can't fine one. It's probably rather an observation that names in all caps are mapped in title case except for acronyms. I

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM Markus wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 01:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > When that is how the business name is shown, what is our policy for it? > > I thought we had a policy for it, but i can't fine one. It's probably > rather an observation that names

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 123, Issue 48

> An agreement must be reached on the names of international > objects. It is currently unregulated and these names > introduced a few years ago are almost always in imperialist > English, which is not always appropriate and discriminates > against other nations. ... 1. I suggest removing the

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

I am against overlaying one way on top of another. The wiki suggests both tags together on a single way is acceptable; https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disland#Islands_in_the_sea Given the suggested alternatives, I prefer both tags together. On 15/12/19 12:54, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 22:16, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I agree, there are some more examples like IBM and BP. The capitalization > of the _name_ should be like it is used (and likely registered). I was hoping (with no expectation of success) that nobody would open the BP can of worms.

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

sent from a phone > On 15. Dec 2019, at 00:14, Paul Allen wrote: > > You could go with the one object/one way method. Draw an area for the > place=island. On top of > that draw a closed way for the coastline. It's extra work, and a bit > tedious, but not too bad. yes, you could either

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

On 15/12/19 09:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Looking at the individual islands, it is kind of problematic that the linear coastline and the area place=island are not distinguishable: you can’t tell whether that’s the name of the coastline or the island or both, e.g. here

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 00:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Or you could create a multipolygon relation for the island by adding the > coastline as outer way > That's something I hadn't thought of. I just experimented in iD (didn't save the result, it was pure invention) and it seems to work.

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 22:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Looking at the individual islands, it is kind of problematic that the > linear coastline and the area place=island are not distinguishable: you > can’t tell whether that’s the name of the coastline or the island or both, > e.g. here >

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

sent from a phone > On 15. Dec 2019, at 00:15, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There would not be too many coast lines with names, fewer again with a > continuous coasts that have names. > So I would think the name applies to the island, not the coast. you can think it is most

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

sent from a phone > On 15. Dec 2019, at 02:11, Paul Allen wrote: > > The inner is entirely within the outer, so it meets the letter of the law > (but maybe not the spirit). > Can renderers cope with it? basically you have just outer members then (one in the simplest case), renderers and

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 15/12/19 01:58, Jo wrote: Jesus would float, obviously, but what about his bicycle? mtnbs float too. Don't know about the road bike. On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 20:59 Peter Elderson > wrote: We  happily add ferry transfers to hiking routes. Nobody has been

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

sent from a phone > On 14. Dec 2019, at 21:30, Clifford Snow wrote: > > I would favor adding the name exactly as it appears in a sign, even including > punctuation marks if it's in their sign. For example AT AT at one time > was an abbreviation for American Telephone & Telegraph but they

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

sent from a phone >> On 14. Dec 2019, at 12:46, Christoph Hormann wrote: > That looks correct, archipelagos are normal multipolygon relations. +1 > Building them from the same coastline ways that are used to map the > individual islands is the established method for mapping them.

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 14/12/2019 14:42, Volker Schmidt wrote: Adding a bicycle=dismount is OK I suppose, but I'm unsure there's really a problem. This street in Padova carries a (mono-rail) tram (railway=tram) and is closed to bicycles, tagged with bicycle=no. I

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

14 Dec 2019, 13:57 by pla16...@gmail.com: >> On the wider topic of writing names as they are on the sign, I would >> agree with this up to a certain point. It is entirely possible for a >> business to name itself "Fred's Bagels the BEST Bagels in Northern >> California Inc", at which point I