Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-19 Thread Peter Elderson
Two dots are used in some circles to indicate inclusive range. eg 21..27. Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 19 aug. 2020 om 00:25 schreef Tod Fitch : > > On Aug 18, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > > Maybe we should use a different character to indicate a range, such as a > slash? > > > > In

Re: [Tagging] We should stop using hyphens to denote address ranges

2020-08-19 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 11:29:50PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > I think you misunderstand hyphenated addresses in Queens. The second > part of the hyphenation is not a flat/apartment number. As an example, > the Dunkin Donuts at the corner of 31st St and 36th Ave has an address > of 31-02 36th Ave,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Aug 2020, at 01:38, Joseph Eisenberg > wrote: > > similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: > shop=funeral_directors. > The use of the key "shop=" is odd, but it's been used over 20,000 times so it > seems to be well established:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Funeral directors are a business, this is a public facility (generally) on a cemetery. A mortuary is for storing corpses, that's often associated to this kind of ceremonial place, but not necessarily. Am 19.08.2020 01:36 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg: There is already an existing tag with similar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Indeed, this is not about a business, but a public facility. Am 19.08.2020 09:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: sent from a phone On 19. Aug 2020, at 01:38, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: similar meaning for funeral homes / funeral halls / funeral directors: shop=funeral_directors. The use of the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. But typically, they would be public. That being said, all cemeteries I know personally are run either by a government entity or a religious denomination;

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them for burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French call a "funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the funeral directors tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
If there is a crematorium, I agree that it should take precedence, and I can't imagine a crematorium without such a room. However, more often than not, there is no crematorium while there is such a funeral hall (quite often actually colloquially called a "chapel", but "chapel" falls under the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2020-08-19 at 10:26 +0200, woll...@posteo.de wrote: > Funeral directors are a business, this is a public facility > (generally) > on a cemetery. A mortuary is for storing corpses, that's often > associated to this kind of ceremonial place, but not necessarily. > Looking around my local

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Aug 2020, at 14:00, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Looking around my local area these have simply been mapped as > amenity=crematorium. i.e. they have not been mapped yet :) a crematorium implies a place to burn dead people or animals, but has no implications on the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone >> On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, woll...@posteo.de wrote: > I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to any > religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. But > typically, they would be public. let me rephrase my question: how

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In the US, there are privately owned cemeteries, often with a private funeral home / mortuary building on the site. You can buy a plot and also pay for the funeral services, including the use of a hall for a viewing, reception or funeral service (religious or otherwise). E.g.:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Volker Schmidt
With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an alternative way of tagging this function. In various countries and in various religions the approaches on how to say good-bye to the dead are different. I am thinking of the "camera ardente" in Italy or the "Aufbahrung" in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm completely open to suggestions in this regard. I took the key I've already seen used by some, but if someone comes up with a better idea, great. Am 19.08.2020 18:37 schrieb Volker Schmidt: With respect to the proposed key, I would invite you to consider an alternative way of tagging this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 11:58, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: >> >>> On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, woll...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not linked to >> >> any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a building. >> >> But typically, they would

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread wolle68
I'm not familiar with such privately owned cemeteries, so others may be better placed. Here are my thoughts from what you write: If there is a crematorium, as I already wrote, I think it's pointless to add such a new tag, because a room like that would probably go with any crematorium anyhow

Re: [Tagging] Tagging specialized head lice removal salons

2020-08-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 19 Aug 2020 at 20:32, Philip Barnes wrote: > > I would not expect this to be something my hairdresser would deal with. > You saying that just jogged a memory loose from deep down inside somewhere! Quite a few years ago now, one of the girls I worked with, also ran a part-time job as a

Re: [Tagging] StreetComplete: no re-survey for speed limits

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I feel that the actual tags for implicit limits are less important than the accuracy of the information. From surveys, in different countries (but clearly random samples and no systematic research), it’s not super rare to find implicit limits tagged where there are (lower) signed speed limits

[Tagging] StreetComplete: no re-survey for speed limits

2020-08-19 Thread Tobias Zwick
Hey guys, I just wanted to inform you that unfortunately, StreetComplete will not offer a re-survey for speed limits in the upcoming "Map Maintenance with StreetComplete" feature but probably never anyway. Short explanation: It is impossible to implement a re-survey without creating conflict

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Aug 2020, at 10:23, woll...@posteo.de wrote: > > Indeed, this is not about a business, but a public facility must the facility be “public” or could it be a private facility as well? Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] Tagging specialized head lice removal salons

2020-08-19 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 22:13 +0200, Lisbeth Salander wrote: > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Paul Allen > wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, we try to avoid putting two top-level tags on the > > same object because > > of nasal demons: > >