Re: [Tagging] Difference between building=grandstand and leisure=bleachers

2018-04-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
in case you want to be more explicit, maybe covered=yes/no makes some sense?


Cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Difference between building=grandstand and leisure=bleachers

2018-04-04 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
2018-04-04 9:30 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes :

>
>
> On 4 April 2018 08:44:08 BST, "Javier Sánchez Portero" <
> javiers...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bleachers are open structures, usually associated with American High
> School and University sports.
>
> I understand that the
> >tag
> >leisure=bleachers is discouraged for not being British English.
> Why? As a native speaker of British English I can see nothing wrong with
> Bleachers, there is no word in BE to describe these as they are not
> suitable for a Northern European climate.
>
> I think the key difference is a building v open frame structure.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
>
I'm not a native speaker, but that is what says the red warning in

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=bleachers

The open frame structure type is very common where I live (28ºN) and I
suppose that in many other parts of the world. In this definition

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grandstand

It says a structure with seats without implying if it's a building or an
open frame. Maybe the correct use could be building=grandstand and
leisure=grandstand deprecating leisure=bleacher

Otherwise, the warning should be removed from leisure=bleacher because it
discourages to use this tag.

Javier
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Re: [Tagging] Difference between building=grandstand and leisure=bleachers

2018-04-04 Thread Philip Barnes


On 4 April 2018 08:44:08 BST, "Javier Sánchez Portero"  
wrote:
>The definition of the tag building=grandstand says that they are
>"usually"
>roofed, this implies that not always are roofed. 
My view is that a grandstand is a solid building and will contain services for 
spectators such as toilets, fast food, bars, restaurants and changing rooms. 

Mostly associated with professional sport. 

Bleachers are open structures, usually associated with American High School and 
University sports. 

I understand that the
>tag
>leisure=bleachers is discouraged for not being British English.
Why? As a native speaker of British English I can see nothing wrong with 
Bleachers, there is no word in BE to describe these as they are not suitable 
for a Northern European climate. 

I think the key difference is a building v open frame structure. 

Phil (trigpoint) 
>
>
>2018-04-04 8:27 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Wójcik :
>
>> Reading descriptions of these two tags:
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dgrandstand
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=bleachers
>>
>> the conclusion is that grandstand have a roof above and bleachers
>doesn't.
>> Do I understand it correctly? If yes, I want to emphasize it in the
>Wiki
>> documentaton.
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Re: [Tagging] Difference between building=grandstand and leisure=bleachers

2018-04-04 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
The definition of the tag building=grandstand says that they are "usually"
roofed, this implies that not always are roofed. I understand that the tag
leisure=bleachers is discouraged for not being British English.

Javier

2018-04-04 8:27 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Wójcik :

> Reading descriptions of these two tags:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dgrandstand
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=bleachers
>
> the conclusion is that grandstand have a roof above and bleachers doesn't.
> Do I understand it correctly? If yes, I want to emphasize it in the Wiki
> documentaton.
>
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[Tagging] Difference between building=grandstand and leisure=bleachers

2018-04-04 Thread Tomasz Wójcik

Reading descriptions of these two tags:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dgrandstand

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=bleachers

the conclusion is that grandstand have a roof above and bleachers 
doesn't. Do I understand it correctly? If yes, I want to emphasize it in 
the Wiki documentaton.


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