Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: hifi
On 30/05/2015 8:19 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 29.05.2015 um 18:08 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl: Is it safe to remove this suggestion template then? +1, hifi is a more detailed tag for some kind of shops and not a synonym for electronics There is even space for more detailed subtagging like these freak shops for audiophiles (golden plugs etc.) :-) Gold plating is mostly beneficial. Unfortunately the plating used has 'brighteners' in it to increase sales. Sales over rides technology. Gold plating without the 'brighteners' is somewhat dull ... but actually conducts electricity better. Even with the 'brighteners' gold plating is better than most other plating.. just that it is over priced in some shops. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: hifi
I would like to ask a question about Wiki page for shop=hifi - there's a suggestion for merging it with shop=electronics, however there's only one statement on discussion page and it's 4 years old, so it looks like this proposition is not valid anymore: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:shop%3Dhifi Is it safe to remove this suggestion template then? I'd like to know what should we do with it, because I have the icon ready exactly for this kind of shop on default map style. The generic electronics icon can also be used if we decide to stop advising shop=hifi tagging, so in both cases it will be rendered, we just need to make up our collective mind =} to know which icon to use. -- The train is always on time / The trick is to be ready to put your bags down [A. Cohen] ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: hifi
Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2015, at 2:32 AM, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote: electronics says Tandy / Radio Shack / Maplin to me - with components, boards and soldering irons and cables/connectors. For me that would be electronic_parts or electronic_components these days. +1 - these are totally electronic_components. So we have a generic term and many other specific terms for the most popular classes of electronics, like mobile phones, computers (and even PCs/laptops/tablets if we want to), home entertrainment (TV sets, Video/DVD/Blu-ray players, then also Hi-Fi including tuners, CD players, speakers, heapdhones and special cables), industrial electronics etc. All of this already has a well established name : consumer electronics. CE In Japan they have electric goods stores - denki shops - they sell every single item that uses electricity in your house - computers, air conditioners, fans, toasters, washing machines, cameras, hair curlers, light bulbs, and everything else - which is broader than almost any electronics shop in America. Every country has slightly different kinds of each shop, and a couple combinations that don't exist elsewhere. For the Hifis, it can be broken out further: Home Theater or Home Entertainment. This includes tvs and sound systems that go with them, or stand alone receivers. A shop that just sells audio(phile) gear is home audio. I don't think there are shops for industrial audio supply (except maybe in Hollywood) - not too many people running out to pick up a half million dollar mixing board. Usually a shop that sells audio streaming gear will also sell receivers and speakers and the rest of the home audio gear. CE doesn't include industrial electronics - as consumers don't buy assembly line management computers, embedded computers to be installed in cars (engine management), or other stuff people would use to build products, run machinery, or embed in other products. Those are not really in any shop. Computers are usually a separate category (though they are a CE device now), however that line is blurring more every day - Apple was a computer company, but currently makes 85% of its profits from CE devices (phones tablets, and now watches) Javbw. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: hifi
W dniu 01.05.2015 17:54, pmailkeey . napisał(a): electronics says Tandy / Radio Shack / Maplin to me - with components, boards and soldering irons and cables/connectors. For me that would be electronic_parts or electronic_components these days. This was different indeed when I was a child, but today electronics is a general term for many kind of home, office, professional and personal devices (including audio/Hi-Fi devices). The technical revolution changed our culture, even language-wise. So we have a generic term and many other specific terms for the most popular classes of electronics, like mobile phones, computers (and even PCs/laptops/tablets if we want to), home entertrainment (TV sets, Video/DVD/Blu-ray players, then also Hi-Fi including tuners, CD players, speakers, heapdhones and special cables), industrial electronics etc. It would be hard to find better wording for such a wide class of devices, so instead we can use different names for those specific areas. -- Piaseczno Miasto Wąskotorowe ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Tag: shop: hifi
Hi, Somewhere else in OSM world, 'hifi shops' has been mentioned. I take this to mean in connection with 'musical entertainment systems' such as 'radio', CD players and other audio reproduction electronics. As such, I feel the term 'hifi' is too 'narrow' and inadequate for the range of equipment that can perform this function. I think a good example is Richer Sounds http://www.richersounds.com/ - looking at their horizontal top menu: Hi-Fi TV Home Cinema Speakers Streaming, Wireless Multi-room Systems Portable Audio Headphones Gaming Accessories Furniture Clearance Installations Tech Blog Hence I wonder if a more appropriate tag for such shops can be found ? -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tag: shop: hifi
shop=hifi has almost 6000 uses, so it must fill a need for some people. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/shop=hifi If hifi is too specific for you, you could always use shop=electronics. Also, there is this note on the hifi wiki page regarding hifi vs. electronics: The suggested distinction is that a shop=electronics shop is primarily focused on consumer electronics, and may sell hi-fi components, but is not focused on them and not a meeting point for audiophiles, However that's quite a subtle and subjective distinction, and something which may be better represented as a property tag of a shop=electronics (side note: looking at a random assortment in the UK, I do see some hifi that might be mistagged--for example, I'd expect HMV to be tagged as shop=music not shop=hifi?) Cheers, Brad On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 7:10 AM, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, Somewhere else in OSM world, 'hifi shops' has been mentioned. I take this to mean in connection with 'musical entertainment systems' such as 'radio', CD players and other audio reproduction electronics. As such, I feel the term 'hifi' is too 'narrow' and inadequate for the range of equipment that can perform this function. I think a good example is Richer Sounds http://www.richersounds.com/ - looking at their horizontal top menu: Hi-Fi TV Home Cinema Speakers Streaming, Wireless Multi-room Systems Portable Audio Headphones Gaming Accessories Furniture Clearance Installations Tech Blog Hence I wonder if a more appropriate tag for such shops can be found ? -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
