Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

Le 06. 06. 18 à 15:02, Dave F a écrit : > municipal_maintained=yes operator=name_of_the_municipality and/or operator:type=public :) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

On 06/06/2018 12:48, Paul Allen wrote: Actually, there is a difference. If grass is grown for a purpose (be it grazing or mere decoration) it's landuse.  If it's there naturally and not used (by man) for any purpose (or incidental to man's purposes) then it's landcover.  At least, that's

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Just look at the issues related to landcover for carto-css on github, > e.g. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548 > > [...] > * not enough instances > And if it gets used a lot the argument will be that there are

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

Yeah, saw that exchange before but missed the last ugly part. Mexican standoff? Deadlock? Hm, let's call it an impasse. I'll think about it. 2018-06-06 13:02 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > Just look at the issues related to landcover for carto-css on github, > e.g.

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

Just look at the issues related to landcover for carto-css on github, e.g. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2548 * not rendered elsewhere * not enough instances * what's the difference with landuse are some of the arguments I've seen. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 12:48 PM,

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

This issue has a long history... seems to me tagging awaits rendering, and rendering awaits tagging. In such cases, you need a commitment from both sides, with enough support to fuel trust. Then things can get rolling. I am pretty sure about the tagging side - the problem is recognized, there are

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

sent from a phone > On 5. Jun 2018, at 10:02, Peter Elderson wrote: > > E.g. replace landuse=village_green with landuse=decorative (defaut > rendering=greenish) then add landcover=scrub|trees|bushes|sand|gravel as > needed. > “decorative” is not a good name, if the intention is mapping

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

I imagine that - people that use landuse=grass, landuse=forest/wood, natural=scrub since it renders, would be willing to use landuse=[something appropriate], landcover=grass|trees|scrub|... if it would render - people that use landcover=... (and don't care about empty spots on the map), would

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

From previous discussions on this topic I learned that there are several groups with different ideas about the tagging (see the Dutch forum, as well as in the archives of this mailing list, the help website and the General-topic on the forum) The groups I see - people that use landuse=grass,

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

landuse=village_green is used a lot. That works fine for grass-covered areas, because it's rendered green, but it misinterprets the term village_green and we're still stuck with the scrub, forest, orchard and hedge type greenery areas. The wiki for village_green says: *This tag is very often not

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

4 Jun 2018, 23:50 by pelder...@gmail.com: > > Problem is, landcover is not rendered. Nobody is going to retag for > notrendered. Probably never going to change. > Using landcover (probably in addition to rendered tags) increases chance that it will be rendered by at least some.

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Peter Elderson wrote: > > > Problem is, landcover is not rendered. Nobody is going to retag for > notrendered. Probably never going to change. > I just checked, since I see grass rendered where I mapped it. When I ask iD for grass it gives me landuse=grass.

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

Op ma 4 jun. 2018 om 23:30 schreef Paul Allen > On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Peter Elderson > wrote: > >> No need to tag the operator, it's just how it's collectively known here. >> In fact nobody knows or cares who actually takes care of it, as long as it >> is kept tidy by people in

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 10:11 PM, Peter Elderson wrote: > No need to tag the operator, it's just how it's collectively known here. > In fact nobody knows or cares who actually takes care of it, as long as it > is kept tidy by people in safety vests leaning on gardening gear and > operating loud

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

No need to tag the operator, it's just how it's collectively known here. In fact nobody knows or cares who actually takes care of it, as long as it is kept tidy by people in safety vests leaning on gardening gear and operating loud chainsawlike machines. People feel that using all kinds of

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

Ummm, why not use existing tagging and add operator=name_of_local_authority? No need to invent a new tag No need to invent new values specifically to indicate it's municipal. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

They are within blanket-type landuses such a commercial, industrial, residential. They are not constructions like most man_made=* objects are. More like the gazillion other landuses within the blanket types. It's meant to replace the many small areas now marked as landuse=forest, landuse=scrub,

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

1. Jun 2018 09:58 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : > landuse=flowerbed/garden are both present. > However if the thing changes from time to time it may be best to use a new > value ... say landuse=decorative?  These are typically within other landuses, so I would

Re: [Tagging] British term for municipal greenery?

On 01/06/18 05:20, Peter Elderson wrote: What would be a fitting term for municipal greenery? What I mean is areas ranging from a few square meters to say a 200 m^2, maybe more, shapes varying but certainly planned, with public maintenance, most of the time as decorative separator strips