Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 20. Dez. 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt : > Martin, the former ones ( > http://www.valsassinanews.com/image/original/12663.jpg ) are "tables" ( > traffic_calming=table) in OSM-speak - see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 16:11, Peter Neale via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I agree. To be called a "pillow", it would have to be soft and not rigid. > IIRC there are traffic calming "pillows" that are filled with air and > deflate, if you drive over them slowly, but remain

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
Martin, the former ones ( http://www.valsassinanews.com/image/original/12663.jpg ) are "tables" ( traffic_calming=table) in OSM-speak - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming. I was referring to the latter ones as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Peter Neale via Tagging
oft as "pillows"  (Cushions on the sofa; pillows on the bed) https://www.trafficchoices.co.uk/traffic-schemes/speed-cushions.shtml Regards,Peter >Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 15:12:14 + >From: Paul Allen >To: 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru >Cc: "Tag discussion, strategy and relat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am So., 20. Dez. 2020 um 16:11 Uhr schrieb Niels Elgaard Larsen < elga...@agol.dk>: > Martin Koppenhoefer: > > I thought they would make people drive slower, while retaining a > possibility for > > bicycles to pass in between. > > That is what the proposal says. But there is no way a bicycle

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
These objects need a new tag, not a sub-tag of traffic_calming=bump (220k uses), for the simple reason that it has a different effect on the road users. I have myself tagged many such sausage-shaped bumps with traffic_calming=bump and no sub-tag. They slow down every vehicle, but are not as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Alan Mackie
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 10:11, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > > > > sent from a phone > > > >> On 19. Dec 2020, at 23:27, Brian M. Sperlongano > wrote: > >> > >> I understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a > car drives > >> over them, as they

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Tomáš Hurýn
Thank you for the example. This could be another specific calming device - I really want the be notified by navigation when I ride motorbike  20. prosince 2020 16:08:35 SEČ, Niels Elgaard Larsen napsal: >Martin Koppenhoefer: >> >> >> sent from a phone >> >>> On 19. Dec 2020, at 23:27, Brian

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 14:55, <80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru> wrote: > traffic calming device often used in *Czech republic* > > I found this; > https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zpomalovac%C3%AD_pr%C3%A1h > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
Martin Koppenhoefer: sent from a phone On 19. Dec 2020, at 23:27, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: I understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a car drives over them, as they don't slow you down in any appreciable way like a speed bump/hump. I thought they would make

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
traffic calming device often used in Czech republic   I found this; https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zpomalovac%C3%AD_pr%C3%A1h   https://www.google.com/search?client=opera=Zpomalovací+polštáře=opera=UTF-8=UTF-8   https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zpomalovací_práh#/media/Soubor:Zpomalovací_polštáře.jpg

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread ael via Tagging
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 07:30:26AM -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > "Hillock" is quite common in British English > > > To describe a traffic control device? No. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 12:32, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > "Hillock" is quite common in British English > > > To describe a traffic control device? > > It is not the first word that came to my mind when I saw a picture of them. Not the second, either. Maybe the 49th. The first word was

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
> "Hillock" is quite common in British English To describe a traffic control device? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 11:52, Peter Elderson wrote: > I'd say they are small mounds. > Talk to an archaeologist and mounds can be quite large. Talk to a baseball player and mounds are smaller than archaeological mounds but still quite a bit larger than these speed bumps. > > Hillock sounds

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Peter Elderson
I'd say they are small mounds. Hillock sounds too, er, hilly. Peter Elderson Op zo 20 dec. 2020 om 11:39 schreef ael via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > > I'm uncomfortable with hillock/hillocky as a value. > > "Hillock" is quite common in British English, not that I am comfortable >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Yves via Tagging
Maybe it's time to create a sub-category of traffic_calming=bump with another tag for the peace of mind of data consumer and not bridle too much (though I think it is not possible) the creativity of traffic calming features creators? Yves Le 20 décembre 2020 11:42:56 GMT+01:00, "Tomáš Hurýn"

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Tomáš Hurýn
ok, so we can call value fo this tag: circle_humps. What do you all think of it? Dne neděle 20. prosince 2020 0:31:07 CET, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging napsal(a): > Round Circle Speed Humps > > >Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:29 PM -06:00 from Paul Allen > >: > > > >On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:19,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Tomáš Hurýn
I was thinking a lot about it. But bump is not so appropriate fot this kind of device bacuase it has specific qualities. Dne neděle 20. prosince 2020 1:06:33 CET, Graeme Fitzpatrick napsal(a): > On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 09:32, Paul Allen wrote: > > It calls them speed bumps. > > Yep, it seems

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread ael via Tagging
> I'm uncomfortable with hillock/hillocky as a value. "Hillock" is quite common in British English, not that I am comfortable using it as a tag. ael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Tomáš Hurýn
That is definitelly not rumble_strip, a car has to slow down to pass this device. It's not just about the noice. Dne sobota 19. prosince 2020 23:24:58 CET, Brian M. Sperlongano napsal(a): > I've seen these in the US also, but I never knew what they were called. I > understand that the purpose

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-20 Thread Tomáš Hurýn
Thank you, the description is more appropriate now. Dne sobota 19. prosince 2020 20:43:00 CET, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging napsal(a): > Thanks for documenting this new value! > > I edited page in attempt to provide more specific definition > (based on photos). > > To author of a proposal:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Dec 20, 2020, 01:18 by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:58, <> 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru> > wrote: > >> it had the word bump in it. >> > > Yes, it had the word "bump" in it.  "Bump" is an English word.  There > are traffic-calming devices with the word "bump" in their name. > > The

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Yves via Tagging
I don't think they can be categorized with the ones designed to make noise. It looks like they are intended to work as bumps, but cheaper and easier to install. Yves Le 19 décembre 2020 23:47:29 GMT+01:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : >On 20/12/20 9:24 am, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:traffic_calming%3Dhillocky   there is traffic calming device often used in Czech republic   https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zpomalovací_práh   Zpomalovací polštáře, =  Deceleration pillows     >Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:18 PM -06:00

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:58, <80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru> wrote: > it had the word bump in it. > Yes, it had the word "bump" in it. "Bump" is an English word. There are traffic-calming devices with the word "bump" in their name. The proposal talks of "bumbs." "Bumb" is not an English word. I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 09:32, Paul Allen wrote: > It calls them speed bumps. > Yep, it seems like these are just a variety of speed bump https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_calming & =bump. The existing definition is more or less OK in that it includes Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
it had the word bump in it.   >Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:56 PM -06:00 from Paul Allen >: >  >On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:45, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging < >tagging@openstreetmap.org > wrote: >>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:traffic_calming%3Ddynamic_bump >  >It's

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:45, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:traffic_calming%3Ddynamic_bump > It's not a "hillocky." The proposal doesn't contain the word "bumb." It's not a rumble strip. Was there

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:traffic_calming%3Ddynamic_bump      ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:31, <80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru> wrote: > Round Circle Speed Humps > > Indeed. But you responded with that information to a post of mine which was solely about the word

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
Round Circle Speed Humps >Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:29 PM -06:00 from Paul Allen >: >  >On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:19, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging < >tagging@openstreetmap.org > wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 23:19, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > https://streetsolutionsuk.co.uk/collections/speed-ramps/products/round-yellow-circle-speed-humps-50mm?variant=19772633645113 > > That didn't

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
https://streetsolutionsuk.co.uk/collections/speed-ramps/products/round-yellow-circle-speed-humps-50mm?variant=19772633645113   >Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:33 PM -06:00 from Paul Allen >: >  >On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 18:25, Tomáš Hurýn < thur...@gmail.com > wrote: >> 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 22:45, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > https://roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/is-the-uk-ready-to-rumble/ > I am not convinced that article pertains to "hillockys." It is about rumble strips and does not show these things. Somebody else gave a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Warin
On 20/12/20 9:24 am, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: I've seen these in the US also, but I never knew what they were called.  I understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a car drives over them, as they don't slow you down in any appreciable way like a speed bump/hump. We

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging
https://roadsafetygb.org.uk/news/is-the-uk-ready-to-rumble/ Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:43 PM -06:00 from Paul Allen :   On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 19:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging   >I wonder whatever there is even a British English name for that >(or is hillocky an UK name?)   As far as I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Hi, It's seems "speed bumps" is the way it's called : http://speedbumps.co.za/Our-Products/ https://www.dreamstime.com/speed-bumps-wenceslas-square-some-yellow-prague-rain-image104614297 https://www.ebay.co.uk/c/2293575914 speed humps here

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Dec 2020, at 23:27, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > > I understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a car > drives over them, as they don't slow you down in any appreciable way like a > speed bump/hump. I thought they would make people drive

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I've seen these in the US also, but I never knew what they were called. I understand that the purpose of them is simply to make noise when a car drives over them, as they don't slow you down in any appreciable way like a speed bump/hump. We already have a tag for "a traffic calming device that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Dec 2020, at 22:53, Jeremy Harris wrote: > > traffic_calming=multi_bump ? or traffic_calming=mini_bumps ? when they come up with something smaller that could still be micro_bumps ;-) Cheers Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Jeremy Harris
On 19/12/2020 21:41, Paul Allen wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 19:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging I wonder whatever there is even a British English name for that (or is hillocky an UK name?) They might end up being called molehills or mounds. traffic_calming=multi_bump ? -- Cheers,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 19:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > > I wonder whatever there is even a British English name for that > (or is hillocky an UK name?) > As far as I can tell we don't use these in the UK. If we did, though, we wouldn't call them "hillocky" but we might call them

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 18:25, Tomáš Hurýn wrote: > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:traffic_calming%3Dhillocky > Are the two mentions of "bumbs" meant to be "bumps" or are bumbs yet another undocumented calming device? -- Paul

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

2020-12-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Thanks for documenting this new value! I edited page in attempt to provide more specific definition (based on photos). To author of a proposal: feel free to revert my edit or change it or do something else with it I wonder whatever there is even a British English name for that (or is hillocky