Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

2020-08-10 Thread Warin

On 11/8/20 1:11 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:

the train or trains do not stop where he says they do,

Do they stop at the platform? Yes.
So stop positions maybe mapped.


and i am talking about 400 +,
unverified platforms. which is 200 + stations,
Unverified? Verified by the existing signs? This maybe 'out of date' but 
still verifiable.


How 'inaccurate' are the present stop positions?
How precise is the mapped position required?

Were there stop positions there before?

Is it not better to have some indication rather than nothing?



"They will stay there for ever" unless someone improves them.




Monday, August 10, 2020 9:33 PM -05:00 from Warin
<61sundow...@gmail.com>:
On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:

one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered
yet is what about someone not local
who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all
wrong.


If you find something wrong - correct it.

If the things mapped are deceitful, malicious etc then report it
to the DWG to prevent more of the same.

If the things mapped are better than what was there before then I
would call them improvements and thus beneficial, no point in
being upset by it.

Being local is not a requirement to map, get over it. Local
knowledge is beneficial as it aids mapping things that have local
characteristics - like where trains stop.




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Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

2020-08-10 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging

the train or trains do not stop where he says they do, and i am talking about 
400 +,
unverified platforms. which is 200 + stations, 
 
see;  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metra
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-August/054669.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-August/054696.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2020-August/054697.html
 
>Monday, August 10, 2020 9:33 PM -05:00 from Warin < 61sundow...@gmail.com >:
> 
>On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:
>>one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is what 
>>about someone not local
>> 
>>who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong.
>> 
>If you find something wrong - correct it.
> 
>If the things mapped are deceitful, malicious etc then report it to the DWG to 
>prevent more of the same.  
>If the things mapped are better than what was there before then I would call 
>them improvements and thus beneficial, no point in being upset by it.
>Being local is not a requirement to map, get over it. Local knowledge is 
>beneficial as it aids mapping things that have local characteristics - like 
>where trains stop.
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Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

2020-08-10 Thread Warin

On 11/8/20 9:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging wrote:
one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is 
what about someone not local

who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong.


If you find something wrong - correct it.


If the things mapped are deceitful, malicious etc then report it to the 
DWG to prevent more of the same.


If the things mapped are better than what was there before then I would 
call them improvements and thus beneficial, no point in being upset by it.


Being local is not a requirement to map, get over it. Local knowledge is 
beneficial as it aids mapping things that have local characteristics - 
like where trains stop.


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Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re[2]: PTv2 public_transport=stop_position for stop positions that vary based on train length

2020-08-10 Thread Clay Smalley
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> one of the points that i talked about, that no one has answered yet is
> what about someone not local
>
> who just puts 400 + unverified stops on platforms and there all wrong.
>

Again, is there a reason you're not referring to me by name? It's getting a
little on my nerves.

I'll answer your question, though. If you want to verify and reposition
them, go ahead. If you want to add more stop_position nodes to reflect
train lengths, please feel free. Otherwise, if they still bother you,
perhaps you can leave them alone and let others improve them.

-Clay
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