Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Rob Savoye
On 6/26/20 8:13 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > it’s up to your judgement, in my area if blocked with a mound this > would not be a track anymore. You can decide whether keeping it for > hikers (if legally and physically possible, i.e. highway=path) or A week or so ago I fixed a bunch of

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Kevin Broderick
Are they natural deadfall or human-cut? I've seen photos of places where the USFS has felled a substantial number of trees across a road that's being decommissioned (or just razed, as it was never properly part of the forest road system to begin with). I believe the intent is to both eliminate

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Mike Thompson
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:15 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > On 26. Jun 2020, at 15:59, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > > Trees have been there sometime by the looks of them, and are unlikely to > be cleared. To the FS this track no longer exists (they have blocked its >

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2020, at 15:59, Mike Thompson wrote: > > Trees have been there sometime by the looks of them, and are unlikely to be > cleared. To the FS this track no longer exists (they have blocked its only > junction with the larger network with a mount of earth), so they

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Mike Thompson
Thanks for all of the great suggestions. I have used many of them. This is the way in question: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/819638979 Trees have been there sometime by the looks of them, and are unlikely to be cleared. To the FS this track no longer exists (they have blocked its only

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2020, at 02:58, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier=log says it should only be > used on a node, but if you don't know exactly where then I'd say using it on > the way would be fine when you add a barrier=log to something

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Kevin Broderick
As you've described it, I generally agree with Andrew's suggestions. I do also think that expected local conditions matter; I've mapped some old woods roads that are primarily used by Jeep and ATV traffic at this point. Generally speaking, folks traveling those types of roads expect to find

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 26. Juni 2020 um 12:02 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Jun 26, 2020, 09:29 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > to me this sounds like an unmaintained track road. > > Yes, but how we should tag it? > sorry, couldn't resist ;-) I would tag a few

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 26, 2020, 09:29 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 26. Jun 2020, at 01:45, Mike Thompson wrote: >> >> How would you recommend tagging a path or track that has many fallen trees >> across it? There are too many to map each one with a node tagged barrier=log. >> > >

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Jun 2020, at 01:45, Mike Thompson wrote: > > How would you recommend tagging a path or track that has many fallen trees > across it? There are too many to map each one with a node tagged barrier=log. to me this sounds like an unmaintained track road. Cheers

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-25 Thread brad
Usually this time of year there are many trees down from the winter, and trail users or the forest service will eventually get around to clearing them.   If there aren't enough motivated users, and/or the FS has abandoned it,  one of Andrews ideas is probably appropriate. On 6/25/20 6:56 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
It's a tricky one, but whatever is done I would need re-checking frequently to know when it was cleared. You could just add a single barrier=log somewhere as a rough approximation, or add barrier=log to the way segment which is affected. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier=log says it

Re: [Tagging] Path or track with many fallen trees

2020-06-25 Thread Rob Savoye
On 6/25/20 5:44 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > How would you recommend tagging a path or track that has many fallen > trees across it? There are too many to map each one with a node tagged > barrier=log.  Foot travel is legal, but physically difficult.  Horse and > bicycle travel are legal but