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> On 3. Aug 2020, at 02:15, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The point is that a 'normally expected curb' may be a considerable obstacle
> to a wheelchair person. And the purpose of this tagging is to indicate
> wheelchair access difficulties.
wheelchair users
On 2/8/20 5:41 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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On 2. Aug 2020, at 03:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
Much easier to tag the numerical height of the curb as this avoids the
confusion of words, particularly with different languages, cultures and
climates.
this
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> On 2. Aug 2020, at 03:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Much easier to tag the numerical height of the curb as this avoids the
> confusion of words, particularly with different languages, cultures and
> climates.
this would require a lot of measurements,
On 31/7/20 12:42 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
In Indonesia, Costa Rica, Peru and Mexico, it is common to find 30cm
kerbs in older neighborhoods. In Nicaragua there were some that were
at least 45 cm high, in Leon or Granada.
Tropical countries with heavy rainfall often do this to avoid
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 12:36, Supaplex wrote:
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> I wrote a proposal for it:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb%3Dregular
>
> How should I proceed - can I already set the status to "Proposed"? Do I have
> to write a separate email for RFC or is
I wrote a proposal for it:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/kerb%3Dregular
How should I proceed - can I already set the status to "Proposed"? Do I
have to write a separate email for RFC or is this thread sufficient?
I hope for your comments - greets
Alex
Am 01.08.20 um
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 09:39, Supaplex wrote:
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> I felt that this list more agreed rather than opposed.
bring it to voting.
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There was no change in the OSM database, so the project is not affected.
kerb=regular anyway is already in use but undocumented. Current
wheelchair/mobily projects should anyway consider this existing tagging.
As I described it needs clarity in the differentiation between raised
and regular kerbs
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 09:08, Volker Schmidt wrote:
>
> Please revert this wiki change.
> The kerb hight values have been used in at least one project documenting
> wheelchair accessibility.
I have reverted the edits now, please create a proposal for edits like this,
that
Please revert this wiki change.
The kerb hight values have been used in at least one project documenting
wheelchair accessibility.
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020, 08:53 Supaplex, wrote:
> As an result of this diskussion (no strong opposition, some general
> remarks, some endorsement) I added "kerb=regular"
As an result of this diskussion (no strong opposition, some general
remarks, some endorsement) I added "kerb=regular" to the tagging example
list in the wiki and adjusted hight descriptions (with values discussed
here). If there is further need for discussion and changes, it could be
carried out
In Indonesia, Costa Rica, Peru and Mexico, it is common to find 30cm kerbs
in older neighborhoods. In Nicaragua there were some that were at least 45
cm high, in Leon or Granada.
Tropical countries with heavy rainfall often do this to avoid flooding.
- Joseph Eisenberg
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at
Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 10:13 Uhr schrieb Philip Barnes <
p...@trigpoint.me.uk>:
> when reading the term raised kerb I’d rather think about something like
> 25-40cm, while 4 cm surely wouldn’t be considered “raised”
>
> At that height even a fit able bodied person would need to think about
>
On Wed, 2020-07-29 at 20:15 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 19:46, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
> > > On 30. Jul 2020, at 00:03, Clifford Snow > > > wrote:
> > > The wiki has a raised kerb as any kerb greater than 3cm in
> > > height. Your definition of a regular kerb is
On Thu, 2020-07-30 at 01:45 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> > On 30. Jul 2020, at 00:03, Clifford Snow
> > wrote:
> >
> > The wiki has a raised kerb as any kerb greater than 3cm in height.
> > Your definition of a regular kerb is one greater than or equal to
> > 10cm
>
Agreed that is beyond being a curb, it is a wall of sorts.
For it to be a curb in my opinion, it should be passable by a fit
(non-disabled) person easily,
Once it becomes too tall to pass it is a wall
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, 01:17 Jarek Piórkowski, wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 19:46, Martin
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> On 30. Jul 2020, at 02:17, Jarek Piórkowski wrote:
>
> You have to consider the purpose of the tag. To a wheelchair user,
> there might not be a lot of practical difference between 25 and 10 cm,
> because both are impassable.
wheelchair users are not the only addressee
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 19:46, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
>> On 30. Jul 2020, at 00:03, Clifford Snow wrote:
>> The wiki has a raised kerb as any kerb greater than 3cm in height. Your
>> definition of a regular kerb is one greater than or equal to 10cm
>
> when reading the term raised kerb I’d
Às 20:45 de 29/07/2020, Martin Koppenhoefer escreveu:
eg this is pretty raised
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/29/article-2380778-1B0CC26E05DC-458_634x386.jpg
Cheers Martin
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> On 30. Jul 2020, at 00:03, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> The wiki has a raised kerb as any kerb greater than 3cm in height. Your
> definition of a regular kerb is one greater than or equal to 10cm
when reading the term raised kerb I’d rather think about something like
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:57 AM Supaplex wrote:
> I started mapping detailed sidewalk information in my area, including
> crossing and kerb information. It seems that there is a lack of clarity in
> the differentiation between raised and regular ("normal", neither lowered
> nor raised) kerbs.
Problem: what is "regular" ?
(and hence: what is "raised" and "lowered" ?)
See for example:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-standard-curb-height-in-the-United-States-and-how-is-that-height-decided-on
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 20:58, Supaplex wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I started mapping detailed
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