Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-25 Thread Sergio Manzi
I agree. In Italy too there are so many different limits depending on "who you are" (/how fat your account is.../), in which bank you have your account and from which bank's ATM you are whitdrawning, per-account daily/monthly limits, etc. And I really can't imagine _how one could know_ the

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-25 Thread Marc Gemis
AFAIK, the limit in Belgium depends on the card. You can within certain limits set by the issuer, change your limit. Furthermore, there is a daily and weekly limit as well (see e.g. https://www.kbc.be/particulieren/nl/product/betalen/betaalkaarten/bankkaarten/bankkaart.html in Dutch). Any tagging

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-14 Thread <0174
Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: *I'd say we stick to stuff that is explicitly signposted on the machine - if the machine says what the limit is or what the network is or what currencies it has, then map that, but don't map data gathered by interacting with the machine. * one use case: I was

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Here in Indonesia the ATMs are universally limited to dispensing no more than 25 bills, and they only offer one type. So you can get 2,500,000 in one withdrawal if they dispense 100,000 Rupiah bills, or 125 if they dispense 50k bills. The size of bill dispensed is often shown on a sticker (at

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-14 Thread seirra blake
some providers already make it publicly available knowledge. for example in the UK link ATM has an app, and you can use it to find nearby ATMs. most of the things it tells you are pretty standard, but some things that may need new tags are pin management services, audio assistance and £5 notes

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-14 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-02-14 08:35, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I'm surprised to hear this about ATMs in Europe. > > In Southeast Asia and in the USA, usually the ATM will only allow a certain > max withdrawal. It's also uncommon to have more than one denomination (though > some do have 2 types). > > Perhaps

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Colin Smale
On 2019-02-14 08:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Do., 14. Feb. 2019 um 08:19 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale > : > >> Tagging min and max withdrawals on the ATM is asking for confusion. The >> normal limits are set by the card issuer, > > by the network. Most (?) cards nowadays can use several

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 14.02.19 08:17, Colin Smale wrote: > Problem is, it will probably require data from multiple transactions > from small to large to work out the mix That's what I see as an issue too. Something that is only verifiable if you are a customer and can make a large number of withdrawals to

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I’m surprised to hear this about ATMs in Europe. In Southeast Asia and in the USA, usually the ATM will only allow a certain max withdrawal. It’s also uncommon to have more than one denomination (though some do have 2 types). Perhaps this tag can’t be used in all countries, but it could still be

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 14. Feb. 2019 um 08:19 Uhr schrieb Colin Smale < colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>: > Tagging min and max withdrawals on the ATM is asking for confusion. The > normal limits are set by the card issuer, > by the network. Most (?) cards nowadays can use several different networks, some atms ask which

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Colin Smale
Tagging min and max withdrawals on the ATM is asking for confusion. The normal limits are set by the card issuer, and I can see many people mistakenly putting their personal card limits into these tags on the ATM. More relevant here would be the denomination mix. ATMs have a fixed number of

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Warin
On 14/02/19 17:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 14. Feb 2019, at 07:29, OSMDoudou <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: The minimum can also differ. Some banks allow their young customers to withdraw small amounts, like 5 EUR, whereas adults and even

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Feb 2019, at 07:29, OSMDoudou > <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > > The minimum can also differ. > > Some banks allow their young customers to withdraw small amounts, like 5 EUR, > whereas adults and even young customers with cards from other

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread OSMDoudou
The minimum can also differ. Some banks allow their young customers to withdraw small amounts, like 5 EUR, whereas adults and even young customers with cards from other banks will not be allowed to withdraw less than 20 EUR. So, it may create confusion between mappers because what you see as

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Nathan Wyand
So I think I'm on board with using withdraw/withdrawal as opposed to transaction. The reason I formatted it as 'max_???' and 'min_???' is because there are already two tags in use with that ordering. I would also be sure to clarify that the limits are imposed by the ATM provider and not the

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Warin
The maximum may also be limited by the card provider. Need some careful words on the proposal to say it is the limit of the ATM provider. On 14/02/19 13:31, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Withdrawals are not the only type of ATM transaction. So use withdraw_min=* withdraw_max=/* ??? /The

Re: [Tagging] transaction parameters for ATMs

2019-02-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Withdrawals are not the only type of ATM transaction. Perhaps max_withdrawal would be clearer? On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 10:57 AM Nathan Wyand wrote: > Hello mappers, > > I frequently use OSM to find ATM's near me, but many of these machines > place limits on how much can be withdrawn in 1