Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-28 Thread segfault
Joanna Rutkowska: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 06:54:10PM +, segfault wrote: > The added value would be ensuring the unused portion of the disk blocks > (occupied by the Tails partition) are not populated with some random garbage, > which might be e.g. user's previous (unencrypted) content, such

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-28 Thread Joanna Rutkowska
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 06:54:10PM +, segfault wrote: > Hi, > > somehow I missed this thread, just noticed it right now. > > intrigeri: > > Hi, > > > > thanks Joanna for raising this topic! > > > > I've just thought about it a little bit and I see no technical reason > > that prevents us

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-27 Thread segfault
Hi, somehow I missed this thread, just noticed it right now. intrigeri: > Hi, > > thanks Joanna for raising this topic! > > I've just thought about it a little bit and I see no technical reason > that prevents us from resetting all timestamps in the filesystem to > some fixed value that depends

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-24 Thread Random User
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016, at 03:32 PM, Joanna Rutkowska wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any special reason why the partition where Tails installs itself > is > non-deterministic? It is thanks to differing timestamps on the > filesystem. What you have asked about sounds at least similar to an issue I had

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-10 Thread intrigeri
Hi, thanks Joanna for raising this topic! I've just thought about it a little bit and I see no technical reason that prevents us from resetting all timestamps in the filesystem to some fixed value that depends only (if at all) on the version of Tails being installed/upgraded, during some late

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-10 Thread sajolida
bertagaz: > [ Ignoring some kind of private answer sent here although it doesn't > belong to this list. ] > > On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 09:32:17PM +0200, Joanna Rutkowska wrote: >> Is there any special reason why the partition where Tails installs itself is >> non-deterministic? It is thanks to

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-08 Thread bertagaz
Hi, [ Ignoring some kind of private answer sent here although it doesn't belong to this list. ] On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 09:32:17PM +0200, Joanna Rutkowska wrote: > Is there any special reason why the partition where Tails installs itself is > non-deterministic? It is thanks to differing

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-08 Thread Spencer
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Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-08 Thread drwhax
> Hi, >>//>>/Joanna Rutkowska: />>/dd if=/dev/sda1 | sha1sum />>// > I love you XD > Wordlife, > Spencer Spencer, I'll do this publicly, this is against our code of conduct, see https://tails.boum.org/contribute/working_together/code_of_conduct/ Please refrain from unwanted sexual attention.

Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-08 Thread Spencer
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[Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?

2016-08-08 Thread Joanna Rutkowska
Hello, Is there any special reason why the partition where Tails installs itself is non-deterministic? It is thanks to differing timestamps on the filesystem. This posses a problem for a prudent user who would like to be able to verify Tails integrity, e.g. by typing: dd if=/dev/sda1 | sha1sum