Re: [Tails-dev] Porting Tails to Debian Stretch

2016-11-22 Thread intrigeri
intrigeri:
>  * late August: 1st sprint, only relevant for anonym and intrigeri
>  * November 14-18th: second sprint (in-person, organized by intrigeri)

These did happen! A report will be included in the November monthly report.

>  * late December: third sprint (remotely attended for everybody except
>two of us)

This will happen on December 20-23. Please consider joining!
There will be ways to help regardless of your skills.

>  * January 30 - Febuary 3: fourth sprint (remotely attended)
>  * March 13-17th: fifth sprint (in-person, organized by sajolida)

Some of these dates will likely change, stay tuned.

Cheers,
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Re: [Tails-dev] Porting Tails to Debian Stretch

2016-08-20 Thread intrigeri
Hi,

anonym:
> Me and intrigeri have deviced a plan for how we will deal with
> the migration to Debian Stretch, with the details being available
> in this blueprint:

> https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/Debian_Stretch/

We will kick-start this effort next week, and we have scheduled a few
sprints:

 * late August: 1st sprint, only relevant for anonym and intrigeri
 * November 14-18th: second sprint (in-person, organized by intrigeri)
 * late December: third sprint (remotely attended for everybody except
   two of us)
 * January 30 - Febuary 3: fourth sprint (remotely attended)
 * March 13-17th: fifth sprint (in-person, organized by sajolida)

We will need all kinds of skills, including for example testing our
documentation to identify regressions.

If you want to attend some of the sprints, be it remotely or
potentially in-person, please talk to me and we'll see how we can make
it work in a way that suits everyone involved.

Cheers,
-- 
intrigeri
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Re: [Tails-dev] Porting Tails to Debian Stretch

2016-03-19 Thread sajolida
intrigeri:
> sajolida wrote (09 Mar 2016 12:19:48 GMT) :
>>> We are in particular looking for one person to be
>>> responsible for the documentation-side of things, since we feel
>>> keeping it sort-of up-to-date will help us identify regressions
>>> early.
> 
>> I can be this person.
> 
> Excellent! I've updated the blueprint accordingly.
> 
>>> Regarding timelines, the freeze for Debian Stretch will be in
>>> early December, so the work has to start early enough so issues
>>> can be identified and fixed before that (post-freeze fixes are
>>> generally much harder). Due to other committments me and
>>> intrigeri will not be able to start this until some time early
>>> August, which will give us almost four months for this work
>>> before the Stretch freeze. We intend to kickstart this effort
>>> with a sprint where we meet face to face, and other participants
>>> will of course be welcome.
> 
>> Now the Stretch freeze has been postponed to 2017-02-05.
> 
>> I don't know what my calendar for the summer and fall will be but I
>> can't guarantee right now that I can also jump from "intrigeri will not
>> be able to start this until some time early August" to "kickstart this
>> effort with a sprint [in August]" (implicit in your email).
> 
> Please let us know when you know more when you can start, then :)

I'd prefer setting the dates of the summit first.

> Note that the very first sprint (that we would like to have in August
> 2016) might not be very exciting to doc people, given what we expect
> to be the goals there. Quoting the blueprint:
> 
> * August 2016 — start working on Tails 3.0 (1 week sprint with
>   all involved people) :intrigeri:anonym:kytv:
>   - get feature/stretch to build and boot
>   - update the automated test suite to test Tails/Stretch ISO images
> 
> … so it's no big deal if you join us for the 2nd sprint only.

Right. Then it might be better for me if I can skip this one :)
And until there's an ISO image it might be hard for me to be helpful.
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Re: [Tails-dev] Porting Tails to Debian Stretch

2016-03-09 Thread intrigeri
hey,

sajolida wrote (09 Mar 2016 12:19:48 GMT) :
>> We are in particular looking for one person to be
>> responsible for the documentation-side of things, since we feel
>> keeping it sort-of up-to-date will help us identify regressions
>> early.

> I can be this person.

Excellent! I've updated the blueprint accordingly.

>> Regarding timelines, the freeze for Debian Stretch will be in
>> early December, so the work has to start early enough so issues
>> can be identified and fixed before that (post-freeze fixes are
>> generally much harder). Due to other committments me and
>> intrigeri will not be able to start this until some time early
>> August, which will give us almost four months for this work
>> before the Stretch freeze. We intend to kickstart this effort
>> with a sprint where we meet face to face, and other participants
>> will of course be welcome.

> Now the Stretch freeze has been postponed to 2017-02-05.

> I don't know what my calendar for the summer and fall will be but I
> can't guarantee right now that I can also jump from "intrigeri will not
> be able to start this until some time early August" to "kickstart this
> effort with a sprint [in August]" (implicit in your email).

Please let us know when you know more when you can start, then :)

Note that the very first sprint (that we would like to have in August
2016) might not be very exciting to doc people, given what we expect
to be the goals there. Quoting the blueprint:

* August 2016 — start working on Tails 3.0 (1 week sprint with
  all involved people) :intrigeri:anonym:kytv:
  - get feature/stretch to build and boot
  - update the automated test suite to test Tails/Stretch ISO images

… so it's no big deal if you join us for the 2nd sprint only.

Cheers,
-- 
intrigeri
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Re: [Tails-dev] Porting Tails to Debian Stretch

2016-03-09 Thread sajolida
anonym:
> Me and intrigeri have deviced a plan for how we will deal with
> the migration to Debian Stretch, with the details being available
> in this blueprint:
> 
> https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/Debian_Stretch/
> 
> In short, we do not want to repeat the way we did Jessie
> migration -- we think we can do better! The idea is to leverage
> our up-coming freezable APT repo [0] to take snapshots of Debian
> Testing (= Stretch) and have sprints to put Tails into shape
> around these snapshots regularly, without the delta growing too
> big neither against Debian Stretch or Tails/Jessie. We will also
> use this experiment as a benchmark for the idea to make Tails
> into a semi-rolling release based on Debian Testing, which is
> pretty exciting!

All of this sounds good.

> This is an early notice for this plan draft. Our hopes is that
> more people will get involved this time, for a more collective
> effort. We are in particular looking for one person to be
> responsible for the documentation-side of things, since we feel
> keeping it sort-of up-to-date will help us identify regressions
> early.

I can be this person.

> Regarding timelines, the freeze for Debian Stretch will be in
> early December, so the work has to start early enough so issues
> can be identified and fixed before that (post-freeze fixes are
> generally much harder). Due to other committments me and
> intrigeri will not be able to start this until some time early
> August, which will give us almost four months for this work
> before the Stretch freeze. We intend to kickstart this effort
> with a sprint where we meet face to face, and other participants
> will of course be welcome.

Now the Stretch freeze has been postponed to 2017-02-05.

I don't know what my calendar for the summer and fall will be but I
can't guarantee right now that I can also jump from "intrigeri will not
be able to start this until some time early August" to "kickstart this
effort with a sprint [in August]" (implicit in your email).
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[Tails-dev] Porting Tails to Debian Stretch

2016-02-19 Thread anonym
Hi,

Me and intrigeri have deviced a plan for how we will deal with
the migration to Debian Stretch, with the details being available
in this blueprint:

https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/Debian_Stretch/

In short, we do not want to repeat the way we did Jessie
migration -- we think we can do better! The idea is to leverage
our up-coming freezable APT repo [0] to take snapshots of Debian
Testing (= Stretch) and have sprints to put Tails into shape
around these snapshots regularly, without the delta growing too
big neither against Debian Stretch or Tails/Jessie. We will also
use this experiment as a benchmark for the idea to make Tails
into a semi-rolling release based on Debian Testing, which is
pretty exciting!

This is an early notice for this plan draft. Our hopes is that
more people will get involved this time, for a more collective
effort. We are in particular looking for one person to be
responsible for the documentation-side of things, since we feel
keeping it sort-of up-to-date will help us identify regressions
early.

Regarding timelines, the freeze for Debian Stretch will be in
early December, so the work has to start early enough so issues
can be identified and fixed before that (post-freeze fixes are
generally much harder). Due to other committments me and
intrigeri will not be able to start this until some time early
August, which will give us almost four months for this work
before the Stretch freeze. We intend to kickstart this effort
with a sprint where we meet face to face, and other participants
will of course be welcome.

So please let us know if you are interested in joining this
effort, and please also try to keep your excitment in check so
some of it remains in six months when this work will start for
real! :)

Cheers!

[0] https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/freezable_APT_repository/
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