Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread Jim Ruxton via talk
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:44 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > | From: Jim Ruxton via talk > | > | I'm not so impressed with Lenovo's support of it's Legion laptops. My > model > | as well as other Legion models have no speaker output in Linux. The > | headphone jacks work but no sound

Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | If that matters, it's still possible to buy an original IBM-PC type keyboard | regardless of where you get your PC. | They've taken the original design and made faithful duplicates, as well as | Mac-friendly key layouts.

Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Jim Ruxton via talk | | I'm not so impressed with Lenovo's support of it's Legion laptops. My model | as well as other Legion models have no speaker output in Linux. The | headphone jacks work but no sound out of the speakers. I would have thought | that having sound working was a bare

Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread Jim Ruxton via talk
I'm not so impressed with Lenovo's support of it's Legion laptops. My model as well as other Legion models have no speaker output in Linux. The headphone jacks work but no sound out of the speakers. I would have thought that having sound working was a bare minimum in terms of Linux support. I dual

Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread Dhaval Giani via talk
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 7:16 PM Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > The more this thread continues the more I am reminded about the role of > inertia in branding and marketing. > > Gaining a new customer (ie, getting them to switch brands) is a lot harder > than keeping existing ones, especially

Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
The more this thread continues the more I am reminded about the role of inertia in branding and marketing. Gaining a new customer (ie, getting them to switch brands) is a lot harder than keeping existing ones, especially in mature markets. It's why many big scummy companies treat you like dirt

Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 1:12 PM Peter King via talk wrote: > A few years ago one of my desktop units failed. I replaced it with a > miniPC, a minisform model I put more RAM and two 2TB SSDs into, and it runs > just fine. Maybe that is the way to go. > For many uses this works just fine. The

Re: [GTALUG] Repair & Replace

2023-09-18 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 2023-09-18 13:14, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: I am still getting a message saying that the CPU fan has failed.  But I can see it spinning in the case.  Also, the report from sensors shows everything running at perfectly normal temperatures. Kind of a shot in the dark here. Is the fan

Re: [GTALUG] Repair & Replace

2023-09-18 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
I am still getting a message saying that the CPU fan has failed.  But I can see it spinning in the case.  Also, the report from sensors shows everything running at perfectly normal temperatures. Kind of a shot in the dark here. Is the fan one that has a sensor lead? That is usually a 3 or

Re: [GTALUG] Repair & Replace

2023-09-18 Thread William Park via talk
Try re-seating the cpu fan. Maybe it's thermal grease that's dried up? On 2023-09-18 11:33, Peter King via talk wrote: Another cold boot, same problem. I am still getting a message saying that the CPU fan has failed.  But I can see it spinning in the case.  Also, the report from sensors

Re: [GTALUG] Repair & Replace

2023-09-18 Thread Peter King via talk
Another cold boot, same problem. I am still getting a message saying that the CPU fan has failed.  But I can see it spinning in the case.  Also, the report from sensors shows everything running at perfectly normal temperatures. Guess the next thing is to try a firmware/BIOS update.  That

Re: [GTALUG] Repair & Replace

2023-09-18 Thread Peter King via talk
I have now (Monday morning) replaced the CMOS battery in the ailing Lenovo Legion T5.  After replacing it, I cold-booted up and reset the date -- it seems stuck on Sept 9 -- and ran it for a few minutes.  Then I warm-rebooted, and the computer came up quickly.  But the date is still stuck on

[GTALUG] battery duration [was Re: brands matter; Lenovo's brands]

2023-09-18 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | I saw a video recently where Louis Rossmann gave an update on having | used his Framework laptop for a couple of years now. | He runs linux and most things work, except apparently sleep mode doesn't | work properly so the battery still drains quite a bit in

Re: [GTALUG] brands matter; Lenovo's brands

2023-09-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 03:13:58AM -0400, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > I forgot to mention. > > One area where branding can come in handy is in identifying a niche in > which the brand establishes a reputation for expertise. > > If running Linux and having it explicitly supported by your