Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

I'm sorry that I didn't mention this earlier. One useful site is https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/ Mind you, I've only used it a few times. This is supposed to find the best online price for the parts you are looking for. It does not consider physical stores, but many of them have an online

Re: [GTALUG] Build critique request and the story behind it.

| From: Russell via talk | Intel Core i5-7500 Kaby Lake 4-Core 3.4 GHz CPU w water cooling unit I get the feeling (i.e. have not checked) that Intel has introduced the 8th generation at similar price points to the 7th, but the 8th has two more cores at most levels. So I'd look

[GTALUG] cheap 3d printer?

Here's a thread about the printer I bought. We haven't used it yet so I cannot say how good it is. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] Brand-name desktop recommendation?

| From: William Park via talk | I've been asked by few people about which desktop to buy. They are | technical enough to swap components, but definitely don't have time to | troubleshoot. They have more important things to do. So, I said any | brand, new or refurbished,

[GTALUG] suggestion: disable fprintd

fprintd(1) handles finger-print recognition for some kind of authentication (logins and who knows what else). At least on my current Fedora and CentOS systems, fprintd is automatically enabled. I don't know about other systems. Most of my systems have no fingerprint hardware, so the only

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

| From: Myles Braithwaite  via talk | John Sellens via talk wrote: | > To me, the obvious solutions is to install every library into a directory | > named for the version, or name the library itself with a version number. | > Then, if you wish, a default version can be chosen

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

| From: Dhaval Giani via talk | > As an example of the role of distros, consider the Linux Kernel. It | > used to be common for folks to take the Linus kernel and build it on | > their own machine and use it in place of their distro's kernel. It | > wasn't too hard. Linus

Re: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It?

| Subject: [GTALUG] Flatpak: Anyone with Experience or Opinions on It? | It looks like it may have been | developed by people associated with Fedora and may be a replacement for | RPM, APT, and the like (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatpak). | | In any case, has anyone on this list looked at

[GTALUG] Gairdner Symposia [was Re: FSOSS 2017 cancelled due to strike]

| From: Stewart Russell via talk | Subject: Re: [GTALUG] FSOSS 2017 cancelled due to strike | While there might be occasional grizzles on this list about FSOSS, the fact | that there is a conference on open things within transit range of us at all | is pretty neat. Let's hope

[GTALUG] FSOSS 2017 cancelled due to strike

--- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [GTALUG] Obligatory pre-meeting where-to-eat discussion

| From: Christopher Browne via talk | Kabul Express is a pretty good idea; it is very much "location convenient" | and hits various other desirable points, being quiet enough, spacious enough, | reasonably priced, and having counter service so people can arrive gradually. Let's

Re: [GTALUG] MBR and GTP Drives

| From: James Knott via talk | | On 10/07/2017 08:53 PM, Howard Gibson via talk wrote: | > Best Buy offered me a newer Seagate at a slightly lower price but one | > is claimed explicity to support Linux, and it supports some older | > protocols. When I told the people at the

Re: [GTALUG] MBR and GTP Drives

| From: Howard Gibson via talk It is "GUID Partition Table" -- GPT, not GTP. Nit picky, I know, but it might affect your success googling. | Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 Version~1.1. (Version 3.0 supports GTP) The right way of thinking aout it is: does the

[GTALUG] FSOSS: last day for early-bird registration!

I don't remember seeing an announcement here. FSOSS is a conference put on by Seneca @ York each year. I've found it well worth going. Tomorrow the registration fee doubles! Date: Oct 26-27 (Thursday and Friday) Location: the Seneca buildings on the

[GTALUG] war story: EFI System Partition is fragile

The EFI System Partition (EEFS) is an important component in a UEFI-booting system. The EFS is a FAT32 partition that contains all the programs that can be run by the firmware. So to boot Windows or Linux, the system runs some *.efi files from this partition. FAT32 isn't a very forgiving

[GTALUG] war story: mixing up UEFI and Legacy Booting

background (feel free to skip) "Legacy Booting" means the old fashioned way that PCs booted: - read the first sector of a disk into RAM ("the Master Boot Record" AKA MBR) - jump to that RAM copy: start executing 8086 instruction there. (This is the same way the original IBM PC

Re: [GTALUG] From BTRFS to what?

| From: Dhaval Giani via talk | Redhat was never a major contributor to btrfs. The folks who are on btrfs | like it and will continue fund its development. We might see a btrfs v2 | similar to ext3 and ext4. But only time will tell. Please let's not equate | red hat with

[GTALUG] PDF as an editable format [was Re: Raspberry PI wifi problem]

| From: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" | 1. Another "iron grip" enjoyed by Microsoft is the MS Office product | suite (and related web-centric stuff) that keeps much of the world | shackled to the MS monolith. The anti-trust action against MS in the 1990's should have split

Re: [GTALUG] Desktop swap

| From: David Ing isss--- via talk | The better way to handle mutliple desktop environments is to have separate | root partitions for each Linux distribution that you're going to install. Golly, that sounds like overkill. Or buggy distros. Or buggy Desktop Environments. I'm

Re: [GTALUG] Tutorials on Linux command-line -- any interest?

| From: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" | Actually William, your offer of a Linux command line tutorial caught my | interest. If only I lived closer to the meeting venue ... | | Except that I'm probably going to be using mksh rather than bash. But | having some basic vi(m)

[GTALUG] War Story: interestingly named firmware (BIOS) options

I just bought an MSI Cubi (a cute little PC). I'm having some problems so I want to flash new firmware. Without a windows license. So that means FreeDOS for flashing. I could not get FreeDOS to boot. Only UEFI options were offered. So I asked on MSI's forum, and got a useful answer! Even

Re: [GTALUG] router upgrade; cheap WRT1200ac

| From: o1bigtenor via talk | I've been running an Asus rt-n16 router, using dd-wrt, for about 6.5 years | now. On the second one for about 1.5 years and no longer have a spare for | the next time the router craters. It depends on what firmware you wish to run. It is always

[GTALUG] "open source" [was Re: Cheap vs Inexpensive (Was: router upgrade)]

| From: James Knott via talk | On 07/13/2017 05:17 PM, Scott Sullivan via talk wrote: | > I also for the most part replace the software on my routers. These | > days that's LEDE, the fork of OpenWRT that's actually getting things | > done, and making regular releases. Easier

[GTALUG] UEFI mysteries [was Re: war story: power failure makes CentOS system unbootable]

| From: William Park via talk | Another reason why I don't use UEFI is that the boot manager is | written to motherboard's non-volatile memory (what used to be "BIOS"). | So, you can't simply take the harddisk and put into another machine. | Found out the hard way. I wrote

[GTALUG] war story: power failure makes CentOS system unbootable

tl;dr / spoiler: change fstab so that /boot/efi is not automatically mounted. See the recommendation at the end of this message. My gateway computer is a little PC running CentOS. It does not come back after a power failure. The reason (as best I can tell) is interesting and I think that I have

Re: [GTALUG] NAT [was Re: Linux hardening question]

| From: James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | On 07/02/2017 10:29 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > I'm not sure why I don't get IPv6 from Rogers. I intend to look into | > that -- probably I've misconfigured something on my gateway (a PC | > running CentOS 7;

Re: [GTALUG] NAT [was Re: Linux hardening question]

| From: James Knott via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | On 07/01/2017 05:38 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > For example, Rogers@home (the first broadband service for consumers in my | > area) I'm wrong. Rogers Wave was the first in my area (1997 or 1998, I think). It w

[GTALUG] NAT [was Re: Linux hardening question]

| From: James Knott via talk | I have no use for those who insist IPv4 is good enough, when it | hasn't been since the day it became necessary to use NAT. Actually NAT was not introduced to deal with a global shortage of IP addresses. It was introduced to get rid of a local

[GTALUG] war story: ergonomics [was Re: cheap today: 43 inch UltraHD TV]

| From: o1bigtenor via talk | Sorry, even if I could afford such a beast I likely wouldn't be able to | read | everything on it. I used to use 6 point fonts in spreadsheets to get more | on the screen when I 'only' had a 1600 x 1200 monitor but now need to | use glasses even

Re: [GTALUG] cheap today: 43 inch UltraHD TV

| Sounds like a decent idea if you only want 1 (!) monitor. | Me - - I went for 4 - - 1900 x 1080 IIRC I prefer a single monitor with that many pixels: 4 x 1920 x 1080 == UltraHD. I don't really think that multiple UltraHD monitors would help me. I happen to have a 1920x1200 monitor on my desk

[GTALUG] cheap today: 43 inch UltraHD TV

tl;dr: if you yearn for monitor resolution, have I got a deal for you! I use a cheap and nasty 39" UltraHD TV as my desktop monitor. I am very happy with the experience. Real

Re: [GTALUG] Question [about network security and privacy]

| From: Alvin Starr via talk | You can have either security or usability but almost never both. Not always a direct tradeoff, but certainly often. | I like devices that I can control from inside the perimiter of my own somewhat | secured network. I'e concluded that you need

[GTALUG] deal for Brother printer

Background: I have a Brother DCP7065DN: - laser printer, "duplex" (can print on both sides of paper) - scanner (flatbed + sheet feeder (single-sided)) - (wired) networking (or USB) It works pretty well BUT the printer is a "GDI" printer and thus requires proprietary drivers. Luckilly

Re: [GTALUG] Stand-alone scanner for Ubuntu?

| From: Russell Reiter via talk | So, on further reflection, it looks like the most current | Ubuntu spinsare hardwired to always use XHCI. This seems to me to be | atransitional problem in upgrading from usb 2.0 to 3.0. If you are able | to change this setting with your MB,

Re: [GTALUG] Newegg.ca sales -- Linksys WRT1900AC, Samsung 128GB USB sticks

| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:11:30 -0400 [Reviving an old thread.] | On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 06:47:00PM -0400, William Park via talk wrote: | > Something I noticed while shopping on Newegg.ca: | > | > 1. Linksys WRT1900AC -- $155.99

[GTALUG] war story: some tablet-ish computers don't sleep

Some recent tablets don't know how to sleep. I know, this is crazy. Instead they are designed to take frequent naps, interleaved with checking on "stuff". Kind of like a smart phone. This feature was called "Connected Standby" by Microsoft but is now called "InstantGo".

[GTALUG] dinner before meeting!

Stewart almost suggested this last month, so I'll propose it this month: Doner Kebab House 391 Yonge St. (East side, south of Gerrard St) (Notice who put it on the map.) I

[GTALUG] [PRIVATE] Re: Fwd: Re: DMA kernel attacks

Hi Russell, [I *don't* want to get in the middle of a list-fight. I hate those.] I have great difficulty understanding quotes in your posts. Somehow the Mail User Agent you use (gmail?) doesn't distinguish your words from what you quote in a way that my MUA displays. I don't tend to have

[GTALUG] Dell Venue 11 pro at Factory direct

I was asked if this is still available. Stock seems very low: two stores might have them. If you go to a FD store,

[GTALUG] mailing list issue

I'm receiving much of my email through an ancient server. I hope to fix that. Some of my messages from the GTALUG list are dammaged. Basically, the newlines are lost. I suspect that this is due to my server, but at least some of the problem is the GTALUG list handling software. For

Re: [GTALUG] Raspberry Pi Zero w/ Wifi + Bluetooth Released today...

What intrigued me about the Zero is that it can be a USB Gadget (device as opposed to host). Unfortunately, you could not reasonably hook up a terminal and mouse at the same time since you would need to tie up the only USB port for conflicting purposes. The Zero W fixes this: you can use the USB

[GTALUG] Intel Baytrail systems may become stable under Linux!

For two years, Intel Baytrail processors have been hanging under Linux. Baytrail is a generation of Atom processors and includes many low-end processors that I think of as Atoms but are called things like Pentium and Celeron. But not all Pentium and Celeron processors.

Re: [GTALUG] bash seq question

| From: Russell Reiter via talk | I don't know what I find to be more cryptic, shaking hands with a mason, or | bash quoting and syntax. A problem in analytic philosophy --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] Lenovo Thinkcenter M72z All-in-One -- at Newegg.ca

| From: William Park via talk | I came across https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883795779 |$1000 -> $340 | Not sure how upgradable it is, but as "all-in-one" goes, it's cheap. Offer ends today. It is interesting if it is something you want. -

Re: [GTALUG] Portable Backup Drive Compatible with Linux (and Recommended Backup Software)

| From: Jason Shaw via talk | I personally like the form factor of Western Digital Passport drives as | they are USB powered, USB 3, and small form factor. I get decent | performance out of it, and so long as your backups are incremental, after | the initial sync, the future

Re: [GTALUG] NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet K1

| From: Michael Galea via talk | Does anyone own an NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet K1 and can they recommend it? I am | looking for a recommendation of this tablet for the purpose of web and email. | I have heard that it being a gaming tablet with four cores at 2.2 Ghz, it | should be

[GTALUG] dinner suggestion

I'm interested in dinner. I propose Kaiju, in the food court in the basement of the Aura building, 384 Yonge St. We were last there in April. Each of us can choose which vendor in the food court to use. If another venue has

[GTALUG] processor progress sure has slowed down

I got an ad from NCIX for systems with Intel's new Kaby Lake processors. Here's the headline: UP TO [LARGER FONT] 28% BETTER PERFORMANCE* [/LARGER FONT] versus a 3-year-old-desktop The footnote shows that a i7-7700K processor system was being compared with a i7-4770K.

Re: [GTALUG] A question about boot

[This is a copy of a reply I sent to another list.] | From: David Collier-Brown | Who can talk about (intel or arm) boot? I'm looking at a problem that can be | solved by setting up a device at boot time and not letting the OS have the | privilege or perhaps the physical

Re: [GTALUG] Experience Upgrading From Fedora 24 to Fedora 25

| From: CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk | I just followed the directions here | to upgrade from 24 to 25. | Within 20 minutes, I had a flawlessly working system. I'm very impressed. I've done perhaps four systems that way. Only one

Re: [GTALUG] Resizing FAT32 filesystem?

| From: William Park via talk | http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/09/parted-command-examples I usually use gparted: GUIs are sometimes easier for one-off tasks. Warning/superstition: resizing the main Windows partition and filesystem with gparted can leave it in an inconsistent

Re: [GTALUG] cheap Windows tablets today

| From: William Park via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 12:42:13PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:> | I'm eyeing HP x2 Detachable 10-p092ms Signature Edition 2 in 1 PC CAD > | $279.00 because it has MS-Office mobile version included.-- >

Re: [GTALUG] cheap Windows tablets today

| From: William Park via talk | $119 one is already out of stock. Wow. | I'm eyeing HP x2 Detachable 10-p092ms Signature Edition 2 in 1 PC CAD | $279.00 because it has MS-Office mobile version included.-- My thoughts on this netbook (based on personal tastes): - if you

Re: [GTALUG] Cyber Monday cheap netbook

| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | <https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/ASUS-EeeBook-E402SA-UB03-BL-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.5083331100> (The deal is over.) I ended up thinking of a use for one of these and bought it. I learned:

[GTALUG] cheap Windows tablets today

The Microsoft Store is selling two Win 10 tablets at a low price today. Both have IPS displays with 1920 x 1200 resolution (nice). Both can probably run linux, but with varying amounts

Re: [GTALUG] Experience Upgrading From Fedora 24 to Fedora 25

| From: Marc Lijour via talk | Is it better to have RHEL instead of Fedora as a regular desktop if you're a | dev? | Red Hat is giving out free (as in beer) versions for devs: | https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2016/03/31/no-cost-rhel-developer-subscription-now-available/ I

[GTALUG] Cyber Monday cheap netbook

Typical netbook, with twists Points of interest: ++ FullHD resolution (1920x1080). I don't know any other notebook with this kind of resolution under about $500.

Re: [GTALUG] Packtpub Black Friday Sale - $150 per year

| From: CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk | Packt is having a Black Friday sale. Annual subscriptions are $150 | ($12.50/month). I think that what you are talking about is There is a coupon PACKT20 that changes the price to US$100 /

Re: [GTALUG] unexpected firefox "server not found" messages

| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | type URL "about:firefox" OOPS: That should be "about:config" My excuse was that I didn't actually have time to check the post properly. I posted anyway since I thought that this mysterious incantation need

[GTALUG] unexpected firefox "server not found" messages

Once in a while I've been getting "Server not found" errors from Firefox that surprise me. The links are to real sites. Other browsers can see the site. I thought that the problem might have to do with some tightened security rules. No, the problem is IPv6. I don't have IPv6 at home. But

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu

| From: Irwin Barrer via talk | I am brand new to Linux, open source, etc. I am a user, not a developer. Devil's Advocate Mode: if you are used to Windows, switching to Linux takes some work. Do you care enough to subject yourself to this? (Many of us do, but you have to

Re: [GTALUG] OK, where are we having dinner, folks?

| From: David Collier-Brown via talk | Subject: [GTALUG] OK, where are we having dinner, folks? That's not how it's done. You propose some place and (no) discussion ensues. Oh, darn. Now I have to propose a place. How about

[GTALUG] sysadmining is full of stupid details

Context: I had a working system that was stable for a decade (mail server, DNS, VPN, etc.). But that was insane. Regular updates are needed but old systems fall off the map. So rebasing is needed. And the longer you put it off, the worse it gets So I'm redoing everything, based on CentOS 7.

Re: [GTALUG] ssh/terminal on Android phone

| From: William Park via talk | Which SSH client do you use on your phone? I use connectbot. I shudder at the security implications of using an Android app, with unknown provenance, for ssh. After all, I'm giving it the keys to my kingdom. Connectbot is open source and used

Re: [GTALUG] little PCs for internet gateways

| From: Alvin Starr via talk | I have used http://www.acrosser.com/ for a number of network projects. | The nice thing about their products is that they have enough horsepower to run | a full up linux install. A quick look at acrosser gets me to pre-haswell intel boxes -- quite

[GTALUG] little PCs for internet gateways

By gateway, I mean router/firewall/whatever box that sits between your LAN and the internet. Reasonable choices: - ISP-provided / sanctioned device (combo wireless router and modem) - ISP modem + user provided wireless router + possibly running custom firmware like CeroWRT or OpenWRT - ISP

[GTALUG] War Story: installing Fedora 24 on an old Acer Aspire 9300-3089

TL;DR: - if booting hangs, remove "quiet" and "rhgb" from the kernel command. This will show you the boot log in realtime. - if a module is causing the hang, you can suppress it with "modprobe.blacklist=modulename" We needed a computer for casual use at a remote location. So we pulled

[GTALUG] Good news for procrastinators! FSOSS early bird extended

Normally I wouldn't just forward an ad but I think that is worth your attention. -- Forwarded message -- From: FSOSS Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 19:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Good news for procrastinators! FSOSS early bird extended Reply-To: FSOSS

[GTALUG] free 16 port 100tx switch

I found a Kingston kns1650r sitting at the side of the road (Bloor St.) today. I have no need for it (I only use gigabit networking these days) but it seems like a waste to throw it away. I've not tested this. It might have capacitor rot, for example. It is configurable, but with a hard to

Re: [GTALUG] Going to FSOSS 2016... route question

| From: Evan Leibovitch via talk | On 2 Oct 2016, 22:05, at 22:05, "Chris F.A. Johnson via talk" wrote: | >On Sun, 2 Oct 2016, William Park via talk wrote: | > | >> I'm thinking about taking public transit to FSOSS2016. I can get to | >> Go Union Station

Re: [GTALUG] FSOSS 2016 registration is now open

Reminder: Early Bird Pricing ends Oct 3. [Yes, I'm top-posting.] | From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | To: GTALUG Talk | Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:51:29 -0400 | Subject: [GTALUG] FSOSS 2016 registration is now open | Reply-To: Stewart C. Russell

Re: [GTALUG] Routing and/or Proxying

| From: ted leslie via talk | In this later case, openSwan is probably only | easy solution The Openswan project forked a few years ago and the resulting Libreswan project is where almost all development (including bug fixes) happens. --- Talk Mailing List talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] Routing and/or Proxying

I don't understand all the parameters of your problem. If the application servers are all on a secure LAN, and the "proxy" machine is on that LAN, and it also has access to the internet, then it sounds like NAPTing ("masquerading" is the old Linux name) would do what you want. The "proxy"

Re: [GTALUG] thinkpad repair; or, new laptop

| From: Matt Price via talk | My THinkpad T440s is having some serious issues You could ask on You might also consider testing on Windows to see if the problem exists under that OS. --- Talk Mailing List

Re: [GTALUG] Setting up a VM host

| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | If someone wrote emulation of the old matsushita or panasonic or mitsumi | cdrom interfaces it might work, but why would anyone bother? I'm a bit of collector of antique systems (hoarder, more accurately). This would be less burdensome if I

[GTALUG] overengineering: hostnamectl

How do you set the hostname of a Linux machine? It used to be you just put it in the file /etc/hostname. Now, at least on CentOS, the SystemD way is to use the hostnamectl command. There are other ways (GUI and TUI) but I think hostnamectl is the real way. This lets you set the real, pretty,

Re: [GTALUG] Voting with our Dollars on Computing Future that Respects our Freedom.

| From: Blaise Alleyne via talk | (I feel like there's a bit of a difference between a machine from 2000 in 2010 | versus a machine from 2006 in 2016 though... Moore's Law has been applied in a | different way over the last 5-10 years, in that my refurbished X60 might still | be

Re: [GTALUG] Neighboring LUGs and Other Computing User Groups in Toronto

| From: Myles Braithwaite via talk | I'm trying to compile a list[0][1] of neighboring linux user groups and | other computing user group in the Toronto area for the GTALUG website. Great. I wonder if putting this on the wiki would be better. My guess: no because nobody would

Re: [GTALUG] FPD-Link adapter kits

| From: Russell Reiter via talk | Has anyone tried out the LCD adapter kits like this one on ebay. | | http://m.ebay.com/itm/121124750917?_mwBanner=1 Not me. But thanks for posting this. I'm mildly interested because of two projects that I never get around to. 1) I bought

Re: [GTALUG] Wireless router -- which one?

| From: James Knott via talk | Also, is it in fact "buffer bloat"? Or just a poorly performing | router? Given replacing it cleared the problem, that's what I'd suspect. That was where I was going. | With Wireshark, he can look at all the traffic, examine the TCP details, |

Re: [GTALUG] Wireless router -- which one?

| From: David Collier-Brown via talk | On 22/08/16 02:05 PM, James Knott via talk wrote: | > On 08/22/2016 01:37 PM, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: | > > Bufferbloat happens where a slower link meets a faster one, and the | > > symptoms are indeed insane latency when doing

Re: [GTALUG] Wireless router -- which one?

| From: William Park via talk | My current router is Asus RT-N66U. I didn't have problem with stock | firmware. But, after upgrading to the latest firmware this weekend, I'm | experiencing "bufferbloat" problem. When I download a large file (eg. | ISO file), I can't browse or

[GTALUG] solved: mysterious restarts

any times and it sounds better on a HiFi system than through low bandwidth VoIP. | From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | To: Toronto Linux Users Group <talk@gtalug.org> | Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:10:17 -0400 (EDT) | Subject: [GTALUG] mysterious restarts | | We have a compu

Re: [GTALUG] better than average article on why the federal payroll system is a mess

| From: Peter Renzland via talk | 1. I don't like the literary form of this article. Too much theatre. |I prefer non-fiction, not info-fiction. Even the URL misleads. Each to his own taste. I thought it was fine but I didn't think of it as a tour de force | 2. (Why)

[GTALUG] better than average article on why the federal payroll system is a mess

There have been a bunch of headlines about the new federal payroll system "Phoenix" is screwing up a lot. This article does a reasonable job of describing how the problems happened.

[GTALUG] dual-NIC tiny PC [was Re: Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC; ]

| From: CLIFFORD ILKAY via talk | (*) I intend to purchase a fanless tiny PC that has two Ethernet ports on the | motherboard to replace the Pentium II 266 Compaq small form factor machine | with 128M of RAM and 4GB of disk running IPCop, a dedicated firewall distro, | that I

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

| From: James Knott via talk | On 08/09/2016 04:12 PM, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: | > I've given up on the use of tape. I use external hard drives for backup. | | You should always back up with tar to 9 track tape stands, the way the | computer gods intended. ;-) I did.

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 16.04 / gcc 5.4.0 - errors generated inside system include files

| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk | So what we have here is a kind of | internal bitrot: the code doesn't change, but the standards of the | language do, so it won't build. Perhaps not in this case. exp(3) has always been in . But if a simple declaration in that header

Re: [GTALUG] dinner tomorrow night

| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk <talk@gtalug.org> | <https://wiki.gtalug.org/pre-meeting_dinner> | | We're playing chicken, and I always lose. I guess I care more about | dinner than the rest of you :-) Same again. I suggest we try Bocconcini Pizza and Wings to give it a spi

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 16.04 / gcc 5.4.0 - errors generated inside system include files

I installed AMD64 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on another computer so that I could play. But it turns out that the same problem is in Fedora 24 so I needn't have bothered. Aside: I learned that the best description of my Canadian Bilingual Keyboard is under French(Canada) ; English-something-or-other. I'm

Re: [GTALUG] Ubuntu 16.04 / gcc 5.4.0 - errors generated inside system include files

| From: Stewart C. Russell via talk [Sorry, I've ascii-fied GCC's UNICODE diagnostics since I'm still in the 1980s.] | I'm hitting unexpected problems building some old-ish code (UCB Logo 6, | after hearing Seymour Papert went PENUP last week). gcc seems to be | choking on its

[GTALUG] cheap Raspberry Pi, today only

Newegg.ca has two or three "Shell Shocker(TM)" deals each day. Sometimes they are pretty good. Today, one is a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B for $42.90 + shipping and tax. Ground shipping is $7.99 but you can probably use "InPost" shipping which should be free. InPost will ship it to a locker of your

[GTALUG] FCC "forces" TP-Link to enable open source on their router(s)

I don't quite get it. The FCC made a rule that was easy to comply with if the manufacturers prevented loading of third party firmware. (The rule: don't let you user set the

[GTALUG] UEFI adventures [was Re: Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC; ]

| From: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" | - Original Message - From: "o1bigtenor" | > I cannot speak to whether or not it is actually supported but I can tell you | > that you can install Linux (Debian in my case) on a system with both | > secure

[GTALUG] gmane.org gone, at least for now

gmane is an archive of all sorts of mailing lists / news groups. It made threads visible on the web. This blog entry by the guy who ran it explains why it is down. I have several browser tabs that are now 404s. The wayback machine

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

| From: Russell Reiter via talk | > So, if I buy a white box (e.g. Dell) I'll have to wipe the HDD and start | again, | | Dell is a branded manufacturer. OEM whiteboxes are usually assembled by a | local integrator, or yourself, from branded and or unbranded parts you | source

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

| From: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" | - Original Message - From: "Russell Reiter" | > The hylafax site has a good list of Linux comparable modems. | > | > http://www.hylafax.org/site1/modems.html | > | | Brilliant !! | | >From what I see at

Re: [GTALUG] Hints for upgrading

| From: William Park via talk | 4. If you plan to move the harddisk to another machine (like I do), then | use MBR. Problem with EFI is that it writes the boot entry in BIOS. | Well, on a new motherboard, boot entry is not there, so you can't boot. | You have to dig into EFI

Re: [GTALUG] Advice -- Building Debian 8 PC To Replace Win XP PC;

| From: "Steve Petrie, P.Eng. via talk" | I donlt really have a few weeks to spare. I need to get the Linux PC up | and running, so I can get back to the rest of my life. If you are not used to Linux, and you are used to Windows XP, and you don't have weeks to spare, you really

[GTALUG] unwinding confusing quoting [was Re: 2 weeks on cell phone and chromebook... never again!]

Note: this is top-posted for completeness TL;DR: sloppy quoting has confused people, wasted their time, and hurt some feelings. Careful quoting matters. There is some confusion on the thread about why people might be unsubscribing because . I think this confusion could have been avoided

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