Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:09 AM, o1bigtenor wrote: [snipped long rant] > > In my work - - - ANY errors - - - either 1. I fix, 2. I can't fix - - - - > I'm fired (terminated, gone, history) and I'm looking for another job. > "Employees will be punished until morale

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Andrej Marjan via talk wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alvin Starr via talk > wrote: > >> >> It would be nice to have the ability to run multiple browsers that are >> independent of each other on the same desktop as

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > > It would be nice to have the ability to run multiple browsers that are > independent of each other on the same desktop as the same user but Chrome > and Firefox keep their context on a per user basis. > > Firefox

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:51 PM, o1bigtenor wrote: > OK - - - you think 16 GB of ram is lots. > I didn't say it was "lots". I said that is what I have and the majority of people have that or less. My motherboard doesn't support any more RAM or I'd put more in. > Sorry

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Clifford Ilkay via talk wrote: > On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:22 AM, o1bigtenor via talk > wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Alvin Starr via talk >> wrote: >> >>> On 12/11/2017 12:29 AM, Stewart

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 8:22 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Alvin Starr via talk > wrote: > >> On 12/11/2017 12:29 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: >> >>> On 2017-12-10 09:50 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: >>>

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

| From: o1bigtenor via talk | Sorry Dave - - - - I'm finding your posts actually quite funny. I don't see anything funny here. Please explain. | I have | found browsers | to be this fairly useless things that purport to do x and don't do it even | tolerably If they are

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:25 AM, David Mason via talk wrote: > On 12 December 2017 at 08:48, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > >> A little tidbit for you as you continue your praise of the 'new' ff! (Yes >> I understand >> that chromium isn't ff but they both suffer

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On 12 December 2017 at 08:48, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > A little tidbit for you as you continue your praise of the 'new' ff! (Yes > I understand > that chromium isn't ff but they both suffer under the same kind of > programming > - - - at least IMO!). > Which is exactly what

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > On 2017-12-10 06:28 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > So I know precious little about programming languages. I looked up 'Rust > > programming language'. > > > > Wikipedia (which can often be useful if not always

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 9:13 AM, David Mason via talk wrote: > On 11 December 2017 at 07:20, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > >> I've tried vivaldi, min, chromium (that's chrome on linux), opera and ff. >> They all crap out. FF fails perhaps the best - - - it just

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 7:32 AM, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > On 12/11/2017 12:29 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > >> On 2017-12-10 09:50 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: >> >>> 1. You need to set up at least 10 windows in FF. >>> 2. You need to find some kind of topics

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On 11 December 2017 at 07:20, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > I've tried vivaldi, min, chromium (that's chrome on linux), opera and ff. > They all crap out. FF fails perhaps the best - - - it just gets slow. > Opera just dies with no warnings at all! I don't like getting tracked

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

Pls. see comments below. - Original Message - From: o1bigtenor via talk To: D. Hugh Redelmeier ; GTALUG Talk Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On 12/11/2017 12:29 AM, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: On 2017-12-10 09:50 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: 1. You need to set up at least 10 windows in FF. 2. You need to find some kind of topics so that you have ranging from say 5 to 35 tabs open on EACH of those windows. I'm feeling some

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

I would judge that an unjust characterization of Rust... Web browsers these days pretty much all suffer from memory "leak" issues, much of which falls from the proliferation of web sites that make prolific use of (often horribly coded) JavaScript that draw in all sorts of cruddy code,

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Stewart C. Russell via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > On 2017-12-10 09:50 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > > > 1. You need to set up at least 10 windows in FF. > > 2. You need to find some kind of topics so that you have ranging from > > say 5 to 35 tabs open

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > On 2017-12-10 06:13 PM, o1bigtenor wrote: > >> I think you'll be surprised at how well the latest Firefox 57 performs. > >> It's their first release featuring core browser components written in > Rust. > >> > >>

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:13 PM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Jamon Camisso via talk > wrote: > >> On 2017-12-10 06:28 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: >> > So I know precious little about programming languages. I looked up

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Jamon Camisso via talk wrote: > On 2017-12-10 06:28 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > > So I know precious little about programming languages. I looked up 'Rust > > programming language'. > > > > Wikipedia (which can often be useful if not always

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

| From: o1bigtenor via talk | On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 12:06 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < | talk@gtalug.org> wrote: | > I spend most of my programming time in C. The next language I intend | > to use is Rust. I like its ideas but proof of the pudding is in the | > eating.

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On 2017-12-10 06:28 AM, o1bigtenor via talk wrote: > So I know precious little about programming languages. I looked up 'Rust > programming language'. > > Wikipedia (which can often be useful if not always totally accurate) > listed it as: > >  " . . . a systems programming language sponsored by

Re: [GTALUG] Programming languages (in comparison?) - -was Learn Swift for Apple/iOS. Learn ??? for Google/Android.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 12:06 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk < talk@gtalug.org> wrote: > | From: ted leslie via talk > > snip > > I spend most of my programming time in C. The next language I intend > to use is Rust. I like its ideas but proof of the pudding is in the >