Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons (it was .config all along)

2021-10-30 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2021-10-22 21:13, Stewart C. Russell wrote: It is immensely annoying that Xubuntu can't get this right. I've restored the Alt-Tab behaviour, incidentally, by taking the simple but drastic step of removing everything from ~/.config, logging out, logging back in, then selectively restoring

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-21 Thread Mauro Souza via talk
I've been a XFCE user since 2005, probably earlier, and every time I try a new Gnome or KDE desktop, I get back to XFCE. It works, it's light, the panel works just fine, Alt-Tab works as expected, Alt-` switches between windows of the same program (like the dozen terminals I keep opening all the

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-21 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 07:59:49PM -0400, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > Yup. The main reason for Gnome removing desktop icons was that the code was > buggy. They didn't ask the users whether they wanted the bugs fixed or the > icons gone. They picked the latter. TBH, I'm still mad at Gnome

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-21 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
On 2021-10-20 19:59, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: I've just switched to xubuntu. I think it uses XFCE. So far (10 minutes in) it mostly works. It does fail on one thing, though: Let me alt+tab between the windows. The Fedora version of XFCE does support alt-tab between windows.

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk
On 2021-10-20 11:03, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: When a desktop going from version 2 to 3 throws away everything users are used to, and the developers simply don't care, then it deserves any hate it receives. Yup. The main reason for Gnome removing desktop icons was that the code was

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 12:47, Giles Orr via talk wrote: > As much as people scream about GNOME3, I don't think anyone forked > GNOME2, which they're more than welcome to do. I think someone has, mate. - Evan --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 11:03, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:47:30AM -0400, Michael Hill via talk wrote: > > I prefer the elegant design and centralized vision of the GNOME > > desktop, but the whininess of the GNOME hatred here never gets old. > > When a desktop

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:47:30AM -0400, Michael Hill via talk wrote: | > I prefer the elegant design and centralized vision of the GNOME | > desktop, but the whininess of the GNOME hatred here never gets old. Agreed. Gnome screen (not really a desktop

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread steve--- via talk
My workaround is to stay on Ubuntu 18... -steve > Thank you all for reminding me that I have done the right thing by never > installing GNOME if an alternative is available. > One would think that "the developers know better than end-users what users > want" attitude would

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:47:30AM -0400, Michael Hill via talk wrote: > I prefer the elegant design and centralized vision of the GNOME > desktop, but the whininess of the GNOME hatred here never gets old. When a desktop going from version 2 to 3 throws away everything users are used to, and the

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread Michael Hill via talk
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:10 AM Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote: > KDE is big and bloated and sometimes overkill, but it never insults its users. I prefer the elegant design and centralized vision of the GNOME desktop, but the whininess of the GNOME hatred here never gets old. Mike --- Post to

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread Evan Leibovitch via talk
Thank you all for reminding me that I have done the right thing by never installing GNOME if an alternative is available. One would think that "the developers know better than end-users what users want" attitude would have softened over the years. Apparently not. KDE is big and bloated and

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-20 Thread John Weintraub via talk
You could try installing Ubuntu Mate 21.10, as Mate supports desktop icons. On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 8:49 PM Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: > GNOME have finally made good on their threat to remove all support for > icons on the Desktop. Any files in ~/Desktop no longer produce icons on > the

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-19 Thread Howard Gibson via talk
On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 23:49:45 -0400 "Stewart C. Russell via talk" wrote: > GNOME have finally made good on their threat to remove all support for > icons on the Desktop. Any files in ~/Desktop no longer produce icons on > the screen. The GNOME Shell plugin that was the last thing that allowed

Re: [GTALUG] Heads up: Ubuntu 21.10 kills your desktop icons

2021-10-19 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson via talk
On Tue, 19 Oct 2021, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote: GNOME have finally made good on their threat to remove all support for icons on the Desktop. Any files in ~/Desktop no longer produce icons on the screen. The GNOME Shell plugin that was the last thing that allowed it is no longer