Hi Evan,
The quick answer is that there is no agreement on best practise for
unsub messages, the amount of verification (and time span of) and a
number of other abuse related issues.
Here is what I personally (wrongly or correctly) do:
Subscription (Opt in message / Confirm email message - 1 per
Another thing is to make sure you have a valid email address by sending
an activation message.
Lots of people will provide bogus addresses either deliberately or
accidentally.
You also need to monitor your outgoing email or track the bounce backs
for email addresses that go away.
One of the
Hi Alvin,
long time :)
Have you been black listed by an RBL for a mailing list sending
verification emails?
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 09:26:04 -0400
Alvin Starr via talk wrote:
> Another thing is to make sure you have a valid email address by
> sending an activation message.
> Lots of people will
It was over a year ago and I believe that it was a case of someone who
could not follow the unsubscribe message at the bottom or did not read
that far and pushed the message to one of the RBL providers.
Another hint is to stick something in the mail message that will not get
scrubbed by
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:30:58 -0400
Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> This question is asked of anyone who administers a mailing list about
> policies. I'm setting up a campaign-based mailing system using phplist (as
> opposed to a forum-type MLM such as Mailman) and I'm interested
Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote on 2018-07-25 12:30 AM:
Hi all.
This question is asked of anyone who administers a mailing list about
policies. I'm setting up a campaign-based mailing system using phplist
(as opposed to a forum-type MLM such as Mailman) and I'm interested to
know what
The dangers of doing this wrong now go beyond RBLs in the era of CASL and
GDPR. Organizations are being fined.
One thing that is now part of best practices (ours at least) is to have as
the very first paragraph of all mailings, a "You are receiving this because
[...]" statement along with
That assumes that the users are reading the messages and are interested
in taking action to get themselves removed.
Which is why you want a tag in the message that you can use to track back.
That and logs of all your subscribe an unsubscribe actions.
On 07/25/2018 10:08 AM, Evan Leibovitch
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 at 10:14, Alvin Starr wrote:
> That assumes that the users are reading the messages and are interested in
> taking action to get themselves removed.
> Which is why you want a tag in the message that you can use to track back.
> That and logs of all your subscribe an
hmm, no RBL should not list anyone for sending reasonable mailing
list verification emails... btw - I am still struggling to know what
the 'best practise' should be... (how many verification emails are
reasonable and over what period of time?)
anyway, among the varied types of RBL the two main
Hi Alvin,
gtalug mailing list periodically gets blacklisted by smamhaus on our
IPv6 address, then I have to go to their website and de-list us, which
takes a minute or two, but lately this started happening every other
week or so, and it's been pretty annoying.
Alex.
On 2018-07-25 09:48
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 10:08:47 -0400
Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
> The dangers of doing this wrong now go beyond RBLs in the era of CASL and
> GDPR. Organizations are being fined.
>
> One thing that is now part of best practices (ours at least) is to have as
> the very first paragraph of all
I don't think I have received any messages from the list in about 2 weeks.
The only thing I have gotten is a message saying I have been removed due
to bounces (strangely that one didn't bounce). No idea why that would
happen since other things work fine, including lkml which is notorious
for
Hey Lennart,
That's spamhaus blacklisting us occasionally, your email service and
about five other people (including myself) use spamhaus as a spam
filtering service.
For some reason the messages coming from an IPv6 address to an IPv6
address have much higher chance of getting blacklisted.
Let me know if you don't receive this message. ;-)
I sent it to both the list and you directly, so you can see if it got
through the list.
On 07/25/2018 11:49 AM, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
> I don't think I have received any messages from the list in about 2 weeks.
> The only thing I
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:53:10AM -0400, Alex Volkov wrote:
> Hey Lennart,
>
> That's spamhaus blacklisting us occasionally, your email service and about
> five other people (including myself) use spamhaus as a spam filtering
> service.
>
> For some reason the messages coming from an IPv6
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 11:53:38AM -0400, James Knott wrote:
> Let me know if you don't receive this message. ;-)
>
>
> I sent it to both the list and you directly, so you can see if it got
> through the list.
Well I did get this one.
--
Len Sorensen
---
Talk Mailing List
talk@gtalug.org
We also have a web interface for mailman, so you can check if you're
messages are showing up there, since the default mailing list settings
is not to receive your own emails.
https://gtalug.org/pipermail/talk/
On 2018-07-25 11:53 AM, James Knott via talk wrote:
Let me know if you don't
There's probably a GRUB-specific mailing list or forum, but I thought I
would try here first ...
GRUB has a DSL ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain-specific_language )
that looks a lot like shell scripting. Most people never see it as it's
used to generate the menus we use at boot-time and
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:54:39PM -0400, Giles Orr via talk wrote:
> There's probably a GRUB-specific mailing list or forum, but I thought I
> would try here first ...
>
> GRUB has a DSL ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain-specific_language )
> that looks a lot like shell scripting. Most
On 25 July 2018 at 13:45, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:54:39PM -0400, Giles Orr via talk wrote:
> > There's probably a GRUB-specific mailing list or forum, but I thought I
> > would try here first ...
> >
> > GRUB has a DSL (
On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 02:09:00PM -0400, Giles Orr wrote:
> I don't think that's documented anywhere, and it doesn't strike me as being
> in any way obvious.
Well it's vaguely documented in that the module has a description.
And it is totally not obvious that a module could change such behaviour
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 at 14:14, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 02:09:00PM -0400, Giles Orr wrote:
> > I don't think that's documented anywhere, and it doesn't strike me as being
> > in any way obvious.
>
> Well it's vaguely documented in that the module has a
23 matches
Mail list logo