Re: [GTALUG] Debian 12 takes too long to boot and login

2023-12-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 05:43:58PM -0500, Kevin Cozens via talk wrote: > I have been a contributor to an Open Source project over a number of years. > A lot of the devs seems to use Debian testing which means I often find I > have to deal with (often minor, fortunately) dependency hell to be able

Re: [GTALUG] Debian 12 takes too long to boot and login

2023-12-17 Thread Ron / BCLUG via talk
Giles Orr wrote on 2023-12-17 15:19: One of my favourite recent discoveries are the abilities of `systemd-analyze`. `systemd-analyze blame` shows how long every step in the boot process took. It's worth looking at, but doesn't account for the fact that many of these things run in parallel.

Re: [GTALUG] Meeting tonight?

2023-12-17 Thread Anthony de Boer via talk
> On Dec 17, 2023, at 12:44, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > > Is there a meeting tonight given I think it is the second tuesday of > the month? Certainly seems to be Sunday today… > Wasn't sure if an annoucement was stuck in a queue somewhere waiting to > be permitted through. And it

[GTALUG] Meeting tonight?

2023-12-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
Is there a meeting tonight given I think it is the second tuesday of the month? Wasn't sure if an annoucement was stuck in a queue somewhere waiting to be permitted through. Just wondering. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list

Re: [GTALUG] AI Alliance

2023-12-17 Thread Ron / BCLUG via talk
Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote on 2023-12-06 09:49: I've been saying for some time that GTALUG badly needs a serious conversation on scope and focus. This evening's meeting feels, in retrospect, quite fruitful in this regard. We now need to be advocates for openness in the cloud and AI.

[GTALUG] tiny GNAME change that I don't like

2023-12-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
The latest version of GNOME is included in the latest Fedora and Ubuntu. (It's hard to talk about this GUI stuff because I (and probably you) don't know the names of visual components.) On the top bar of the screen, "Activities" is on the far left. Next to it used to be the name of the

[GTALUG] queue unjamming [was Re: Meeting tonight?]

2023-12-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Anthony de Boer via talk | | > On Dec 17, 2023, at 12:44, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: | > | > Is there a meeting tonight given I think it is the second tuesday of | > the month? There was a gathering at the site of what would have been a meeting. No meeting was organized. This

[GTALUG] Debian 12 takes too long to boot and login

2023-12-17 Thread Kevin Cozens via talk
Greetings, all. I have been a contributor to an Open Source project over a number of years. A lot of the devs seems to use Debian testing which means I often find I have to deal with (often minor, fortunately) dependency hell to be able to recompile the program when I haven't done so in a

Re: [GTALUG] Debian 12 takes too long to boot and login

2023-12-17 Thread Ron / BCLUG via talk
Kevin Cozens via talk wrote on 2023-12-17 14:43: Any clues as to why Debian takes 4 to 5 times as long? I'm hoping there is some bad configuration out of the box causing Debian 12 to be acting so slow. Anyone have any ideas where I should start looking? If I can't get to the bottom of the

Re: [GTALUG] Debian 12 takes too long to boot and login

2023-12-17 Thread Giles Orr via talk
On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 17:52, Ron / BCLUG via talk wrote: > > Kevin Cozens via talk wrote on 2023-12-17 14:43: > > > Any clues as to why Debian takes 4 to 5 times as long? I'm hoping there > > is some bad configuration out of the box causing Debian 12 to be acting > > so slow. Anyone have any

Re: [GTALUG] tiny GNAME change that I don't like

2023-12-17 Thread Michael Hill via talk
Hi Hugh, On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 1:09 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > (It's hard to talk about this GUI stuff because I (and probably you) don't > know the names of visual components.) The shell-introduction page in the online help (press the super key and type help) looks like it's

Re: [GTALUG] queue unjamming [was Re: Meeting tonight?]

2023-12-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 02:36:05PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > There was a gathering at the site of what would have been a meeting. > No meeting was organized. This lack was not intentional. An in person gathering. Haven't been to one of those in a while. Maybe once I finish

Re: [GTALUG] queue unjamming [was Re: Meeting tonight?]

2023-12-17 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | | On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 02:36:05PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | > There was a gathering at the site of what would have been a meeting. | > No meeting was organized. This lack was not intentional. | | An in person gathering. Haven't been to

Re: [GTALUG] tiny GNAME change that I don't like

2023-12-17 Thread Ron / BCLUG via talk
D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote on 2023-12-17 09:23: Am I the only one who cares about the loss of this feature? Probably not, and I hope you find a suitable solution, but Gnome + loss of features = why people move away from Gnome. It's become a meme. I've heard Gnome is better for