Re: [GTALUG] OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box

2022-10-23 Thread James Knott via talk

On 2022-10-23 22:17, William Park via talk wrote:
Currently only listed with Canadian French keyboards, which are great 
if you don't touch-type.


Touch type or not, I just hate French keyboard.  My fingers only 
recognize US keyboard.


I recently bought a Lenovo Chromebook which has a U.S. international 
keyboard.  It's the same layout as the normal U.S. keyboard, but it has 
several extra characters, accessed by using the Alt Gr key. I've had my 
keyboard configured that way for years.  For example, it's easy for me 
to type a ³  or á, etc..


BTW, back when I was at IBM, in the late 90s, in my testing I often 
found myself using an English keyboard on a French system, or French on 
English.  Lots of "fun".  



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Re: [GTALUG] OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box

2022-10-23 Thread William Park via talk


On 2022-10-23 21:10, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:

On 2022-10-23 18:21, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:




Currently only listed with Canadian French keyboards, which are great if 
you don't touch-type.


Touch type or not, I just hate French keyboard.  My fingers only 
recognize US keyboard.

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Re: [GTALUG] OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box

2022-10-23 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk

On 2022-10-23 18:21, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:




Currently only listed with Canadian French keyboards, which are great if 
you don't touch-type.


 Stewart

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[GTALUG] OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box

2022-10-23 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk


These go in and out of stock.

Intel® i3-1005G1: not fast but better than Atom.  A little out of date.
14" FullHD (1920x1080) IPS display
8G RAM (4G is socketted so you could replace it with a larger SODIMM)
256GB eMMC (replaceable)

I've actually bought three of these.  Their condition was perfect. They 
came in the original box.  I didn't notice signs that anyone had actually 
used them.  Fedora 36 runs fine on them.  And Win 11 (from slight 
testing).

The integrated GPU is not at all powerful.  That doesn't bother me.
The battery life is OK, not great.
Summary: a very workmanlike notebook and a very affordable price.

Here's a ladder of better notebooks but they start at twice the price


Cheaper notebooks are usually Atom-based and skimp on things that matter. 
- eMMC flash as disk memory slows the system down
- 64GB of disk is constraining (usable but limiting)
- 4GB of RAM is OK but seems to curtail the number of browser tabs you can 
  have open
- Atom CPUs range from dog slow to slow.
+ these systems are sometime fanless and sometimes have long battery runs.---
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