Re: [GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 04:21:41PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> Lenovo.com is reputable.  Sure, some things are imperfect (like
> delivery dates).
> 
> All mailings from them should include methods of unsubscribing.  I
> trust such links for companies I trust.

Yes a clearance model selling out quickly is not a scam.  Not sure how
anyone could think lenovo.com is a scam site.  I you don't know how to
unsubscribe from marketing email from reputable companies, perhaps the
internet is not for you.

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Re: [GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Slackrat via talk 

| Leave That baby alone.
| 
| It seems to be a scam to get your email address.
| 
| I ordered one when someone posted he deal a few months back
| 
| I Got lots of emails about it "shipping soon" but it never came.
| 
| At least they never tried to charge my account for it.
| 
| Instead I got bombarded with spam until I stuck Lenovo in my GNUS KillFile
| 
| It serves me right in a way as I already have one piece of Lenovo Junk
| but thought it a nice item at the time.

Lenovo.com is reputable.  Sure, some things are imperfect (like
delivery dates).

All mailings from them should include methods of unsubscribing.  I
trust such links for companies I trust.
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Re: [GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-16 Thread Slackrat via talk
William Park via talk  writes:

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> Yeah, but builtin keyboard, screen, case, UPS, wifi, eMMC.
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Leave That baby alone.

It seems to be a scam to get your email address.

I ordered one when someone posted he deal a few months back

I Got lots of emails about it "shipping soon" but it never came.

At least they never tried to charge my account for it.

Instead I got bombarded with spam until I stuck Lenovo in my GNUS KillFile

It serves me right in a way as I already have one piece of Lenovo Junk
but thought it a nice item at the time.

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Re: [GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-16 Thread William Park via talk


On 2022-06-15 22:40, Stewart C. Russell via talk wrote:

On 2022-06-15 14:46, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:


This is probably more cost-effective than a Raspberry Pi 4 if the display
and keyboard are useful.


And at least you can get one of these. Well, you could: the Lenovo site 
is showing "unavailable"


It might be a little slower than a Raspberry Pi 4: fewer cores, slower CPU


Yeah, but builtin keyboard, screen, case, UPS, wifi, eMMC.
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Re: [GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-15 Thread Stewart C. Russell via talk

On 2022-06-15 14:46, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:


This is probably more cost-effective than a Raspberry Pi 4 if the display
and keyboard are useful.


And at least you can get one of these. Well, you could: the Lenovo site 
is showing "unavailable"


It might be a little slower than a Raspberry Pi 4: fewer cores, slower CPU



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Re: [GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-15 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: William Park via talk 

| I see $179.99, and it's cheaper than Chromebook!  OS is "Windows 11 Home S
| Mode".

Windows 11s is just Windows with training wheels.  You should be able
to trivially turn it into Windows 11.  Certainly that was true of Win
10s.

Perhaps machines delivered with Win 11s don't meet the specs for a
comfortable Win 11.  Apparently Microsoft is now or soon requiring a
minimum of 8G of RAM for Windows certification.

|  Can you install Linux on the machine?

Surely you can install Linux, but I haven't tried it.  There is a tiny
chance that some kind of peripheral is unsupported by Linux.  But
don't worry, Lenovo accepts returns with no penalty for something like
30 days (check the site).

I've had a few laptops with something not supported yet in the Linux I
tried (always Fedora).  Usually it was supported after all the updates
were applied.

There is usually someone in the community that has hit the problem
before you: google can usually find their story.
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Re: [GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-15 Thread William Park via talk
I see $179.99, and it's cheaper than Chromebook!  OS is "Windows 11 Home 
S Mode".  Can you install Linux on the machine?


On 2022-06-15 14:46, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:

We were talking about cheap netbooks for Linux last night.

This one is on sale from Lenovo for $180.  New; free shipping.


I'm in some kind of club with Lenovo that gets me this for $175.  Lenovo
PRO?  EPP?  I don't know.

Going through Rakuten.ca will currently save you another 3%.  Sometimes
it is 12%.

The display 11" is only 1366 x 768 pixels.  Too low res for me.

4G of RAM -- OK.

64G of eMMC -- OK for Windows or Linux, but pretty tight for dual boot.

AMD 3020e Processor (1.20 GHz, up to 2.60 GHz Max Boost, 2 Cores, 2
Threads, 4 MB cache)

HDMI 1.4, 2 x USB 3.2 (Gen1)

This is probably more cost-effective than a Raspberry Pi 4 if the display
and keyboard are useful.
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[GTALUG] cheap netbook: Lenovo IdeaPad 1

2022-06-15 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
We were talking about cheap netbooks for Linux last night.

This one is on sale from Lenovo for $180.  New; free shipping.


I'm in some kind of club with Lenovo that gets me this for $175.  Lenovo 
PRO?  EPP?  I don't know.

Going through Rakuten.ca will currently save you another 3%.  Sometimes 
it is 12%.

The display 11" is only 1366 x 768 pixels.  Too low res for me.

4G of RAM -- OK.

64G of eMMC -- OK for Windows or Linux, but pretty tight for dual boot.

AMD 3020e Processor (1.20 GHz, up to 2.60 GHz Max Boost, 2 Cores, 2 
Threads, 4 MB cache)

HDMI 1.4, 2 x USB 3.2 (Gen1)

This is probably more cost-effective than a Raspberry Pi 4 if the display 
and keyboard are useful.
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