RE: [nyphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressivefall-back

2007-03-06 Thread Steve Solomon
And don't forget that the first time you show anyone anything you've programmed, it's going to fail regardless of how many times you have tested it. Or, at least that's been my experience -- but perhaps I'm the only SOB that this happens to. :-) tedd For me it generally works the first time

Re: [nyphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressivefall-back

2007-02-28 Thread inforequest
Peter Sawczynec ps-at-sun-code.com |nyphp dev/internal group use| wrote: It is interesting to note here that iframes have a history. If I recall correctly: Originally, iframes were an IE only gambit and served to sidestep the more routinely employed numbingly complex of framesets, divs, layer

RE: [nyphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressivefall-back

2007-02-28 Thread Peter Sawczynec
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of csnyder Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:11 PM To: NYPHP Talk Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressivefall-back On 2/26/07, Chris Shiflett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's th

Re: [nyphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressivefall-back

2007-02-26 Thread Rolan Yang
Also, I would recommend a phone number with plenty of digits 1, 2, and 3. For THOSE types of people, the "8-0-0" is difficult to call because the rotary dial takes a long time to return all the way back from the zero's. ~Rolan Kenneth Downs wrote: Peter Sawczynec wrote: An easy progressive

Re: [nyphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressivefall-back

2007-02-26 Thread Kenneth Downs
Peter Sawczynec wrote: An easy progressive fallback for those users with JavaScript turned off would be a nice web page with an 800-number to use and a printable form to order by regular mail (yikes!). LOL! ___ New York PHP Community Tal

RE: [nyphp-talk] Thoughts on using JavaScript with no progressivefall-back

2007-02-26 Thread Peter Sawczynec
Me, I tend to strongly push customers towards the latest common standards that the general population at large is likely using and try to avoid time-consuming infinitely backwards compatible constructions -- as I've done that type of development and because one ends up developing to usage statistic