Me, I tend to strongly push customers towards the latest common standards that the general population at large is likely using and try to avoid time-consuming infinitely backwards compatible constructions -- as I've done that type of development and because one ends up developing to usage statistics that are likely already a year or more old, that by the time your product hits actual consumer usage, there are no more or far less consumers still meeting the old standard you just developed to for nothing.
An easy progressive fallback for those users with JavaScript turned off would be a nice web page with an 800-number to use and a printable form to order by regular mail (yikes!). I would posit that this is best to be a strict dollars and sense business decision -- is it worth the time, money and permanent extra complexity? -- not a matter of whether the programmatic ability is there. If the customer has genuine concerns about handicapped users on their site with very special browser needs, okay different story. If w3schools is showing 6% JavaScript turned off -- that may be biased towards professional developers using streamlined browsers to visit their site. Additionally, I would agree: How could one be and aggressive contemporary developer and surf and develop with JavaScript turned off. I don't see it. Personally, I'd rather sell, develop and use a totally Flash-enabled site than get slogged with a task of building a site with no JavaScript. In all my gabbing with regular folk about what they do to block popups: they use built in popup blockers, buy commercial software, live with what their ISP provides -- I have never personally spoken to anyone who actually reached into the browser settings and turned off JavaScript. Seriously, I think we present to the customer that in a toss up of the type: Option A) do we spend more time on infinite backwards compatibility or Option B) spend more time on security updates and security re-tooling. I choose Option B. And would sell that hard to the customer too. Warmest regards, Peter Sawczynec Technology Dir. Sun-code.com Web related services 646.316.3678 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
