Re: fire fox

2017-10-10 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Has anyone got a copy of that file? I have not. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Tue, 10 Oct 2017, Kevin Huber via Talk wrote: Hi: I would also like a copy of that file, since I find that I am using Chrome more these days and I have noticed that Chrome loads websites faster than

RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
Please if you send me the chrome tutorial I appreciate it very much. Thanks and have a nice day. Michael Micallef Officer in charge of ICT Accessibility Certification and ICT Training for Persons with a Visual Impairment Foundation for Information Technology Accessibility (FITA) Email:

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
I can agree wholeheartedly with this post. In England, if your blind, you'd use JAWS in the schools. If your low vision, you'd use Supernova in the schools too!. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent:

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
Hi guys! Another paid screen reader is System Access from SeroTech! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:28 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. Subject: RE:

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tony, the death of Window-Eyes is what has gotten me to elect to abandon Windows completely and move everything over to both an Android tablet and a smartphone! I am a tad slow learning my tablet, but I will keep on with it until I beat it to submission. Business reasons also slow my move

RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
Hi Dave! You are welcome! Let me know if you have any questions at all about the tutorial or anything else. DavidMoore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave Basden via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:20 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Dave Basden Subject: RE: Chrome, was:

RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread Dave Basden via Talk
Hi Daivd, Thanks for the tutorial. I didn't catch your later message with the tutorial included until after I wrote my begging request. I'm looking forward to using the tutorial. Dave At 05:57 PM 10/10/2017, you wrote: Hi Dave! Here is my tutorial on using Chrome pasted right into this

RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
You are welcome! Let me know if you have any questions at all. David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:03 PM To: David Moore via Talk Cc: brice Mijares Subject: Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate Thank you

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
they also need to make that $120 full copy of jaws for people on fixed incomes, something publically available on their website. On 10/10/2017 7:07 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: Hi, Yes, I know. I do believe however that since they killed WE, they really need to focus hard on making Jaws work

Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
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RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
Hi Brice! Here is my tutorial on using Chrome. It is easy to follow, and I go through all of the settings in Chrome and how to use it! Here is the tutorial pasted right below. Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser By David Moore This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
Hi Dave! Here is my tutorial on using Chrome pasted right into this email. You can read it right in the message, or copy and paste it into a document. Here is the tutorial! Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser By David Moore This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome. I

Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
David, would you please send me the Chrome tutorial? Thank You. bricemija...@att.net ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit

Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread Dave Basden via Talk
I would like a copy of that tutorial as well. d...@basden.us At 03:07 PM 10/10/2017, you wrote: Hi David, Sure. Please send me that tutorial. tom.kings...@charter.net Thanks, Tom On 10/10/2017 5:31 PM, David Moore via Talk wrote: Hi Tom! I use Chrome all of the time! It is easier to use,

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
Hi, Yes, I know. I do believe however that since they killed WE, they really need to focus hard on making Jaws work with alll the different programs that WE did/does. There's a few things that Jaws does better than WE, but there's quite a bit that WE does better than Jaws. I'm getting used to

RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
Hi Tom! Here is the text tutorial on using Chrome pasted right in this email. You do not need the version of JAWS or Windows that I say that I am using! It is very easy to follow, because I say what JAWS says as I press each key command. I take you through how to customize all of your settings,

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Josh Kennedy via Talk
oh  well then maybe I will just stay with NVDA and I may not bother buying jaws, not sure yet. I heard jaws has better microsoft office support than NVDA does. But maybe that is no longer true? On 10/10/2017 1:33 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: you might as well junk it now. 2018 release will

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Jim via Talk
Hi THERE! While I agree that Jaws could do more especially now that they have acquired Window-Eyes I haven't had a real issue with Jaws. I can read from the current line to the end of a document simply by pressing the 'insert+the down arrow key. I wonder what programs you are actually

Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Hi David, Sure. Please send me that tutorial. tom.kings...@charter.net Thanks, Tom On 10/10/2017 5:31 PM, David Moore via Talk wrote: Hi Tom! I use Chrome all of the time! It is easier to use, much faster at downloading files, and streaming media. It is very accessible. I can send you a

RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread David Moore via Talk
Hi Tom! I use Chrome all of the time! It is easier to use, much faster at downloading files, and streaming media. It is very accessible. I can send you a tutorial on using the Chrome browser! David Moore Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kevin Huber via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017

RE: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tony, I seriously doubt that the law against monopoly apply in the access technology industry. If it does, it is a bit too late now. GW Micro is gone and I doubt if it can be revived. Besides, who truly want to spend endless hours in court? GW Micro went through that once, and I don't believe

Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate

2017-10-10 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Tom: I find that I am using it more and more often these days. Give it a try! You might be pleasantly surprised. On 10/2/17, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > Has anyone given Chrome a serious look? I've never even tried it. So I'm > curious as to whether I should

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
What products for the disabled? -Original Message- From: Charles Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:00 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Charles Adkins Subject: Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts it doesn’t seem like they affect products for the disabled does

Re: fire fox

2017-10-10 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi: I would also like a copy of that file, since I find that I am using Chrome more these days and I have noticed that Chrome loads websites faster than even Firefox, and much faster than Explorer. My email is khu...@bell.net. Thank you. Kevin Huber On 10/5/17, Don Smith via Talk

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread loy via Talk
There are at least two other commercial screen readers and one free one. On 10/10/2017 2:56 PM, Tony C via Talk wrote: It seems to me that by Jaws being the only "real" screen reader left, that would make VFO being a monopoly. There are laws about that??? -Original Message- From:

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Charles Adkins via Talk
it doesn’t seem like they affect products for the disabled does it? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 10, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Tony C via Talk > wrote: > > No, but maybe Brainwashed. I quit using Jawws in 2004 because WE worked > better with stuff I needed. Now Jaws still

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
No, but maybe Brainwashed. I quit using Jawws in 2004 because WE worked better with stuff I needed. Now Jaws still doesn't work well with a lot of very common programs. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:42 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Tony C via Talk
It seems to me that by Jaws being the only "real" screen reader left, that would make VFO being a monopoly. There are laws about that??? -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:38 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject:

Re: Firefox Extended Service Releases

2017-10-10 Thread net bat via Talk
it is updated once per year. around march. you recieve all the cridical security updates until the new release. unlike the consumer version. witch you have to upgrade every 6 weeks to get security updates. -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10,

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread loy via Talk
The reason there are so many JAWS users, is that government organizations bought them. Most Window Eyes users had to buy it themselves. JAWS is a good program, but for me it is loaded down with so much stuff that I don't need. I still use We most of the time, using JAWS trying to get use to it

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread net bat via Talk
because f s had all the money to throw around to permote there products and to businesses and schools. few even heard of window eyes and were not willing to use a product they never heard of. if they knew window eyes worked most of the time right out of the box without scripts years ago they

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread net bat via Talk
you would think after 27 years f s programmers would know how to make jaws speak all of the status symbles in wlm. it can't even find the graphics for replied or attachments. no matter how many times i have tried to define these graphics. it just doesn't find them. window eyes had no truble

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
While I believe what you say, why are there so many Jaws users, even some here, who swear by Jaws? They can't all be ignorant, can they? What I am guessing is happening is, each screen reader has its issues and some websites work better on WE, and other websites work better on Jaws. Of

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
The consensus seems to be that WE, overall, is better. I have yet to use Jaws, but the more I read here, the more I realize that we each have different systems and needs. So while you can't seem to pay your credit card, others can. And while you can do certain things, others can't. I think

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread net bat via Talk
you might as well junk it now. 2018 release will be in about 2 weeks. f s has had the same 27 years as window eyes had and it still doesn't work as good. i can't even pay my credit card with it. a web page that is suppose to be jaws compatible doesn't work. window eyes works fine. money

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Have you tried edge with jaws as of yet? I've been playing around with it. Window eyes does work a lot better with windows live mail. -Original Message- From: Chuck Adkins via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:33 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Chuck Adkins Subject:

Re: Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Chuck, I agree with you!  My s m as were carried over from W E, but when I have to pay for an upgrade, Jaws will disappear from my computer. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 10/10/2017 8:33 AM, Chuck Adkins via Talk wrote: Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the

Window-eyes and Jaws, thoughts

2017-10-10 Thread Chuck Adkins via Talk
Well, I've been using Jaws for a while now and I must confess the Window-eyes was the much better product both in speed, browsing, usability, layout, and so much more. Like on the Ohio Lottery Website, when reading the pick 5 Jaws will not scroll down continuously down the page like NVDA,

Firefox Extended Service Releases

2017-10-10 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi listers: It’s not the latest and greatest, but, you might try downloading the Extended Support Release of Firefox. The current one is 52.4. I got the 32-bit English version to work, but, the 64-bit didn’t. Here is a link to the 32-bit English version:

Re: Latest Firefox, and accessibility

2017-10-10 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Actually the work-around still works on my system, stay tuned. On 10/9/2017 3:00 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Yes, the workaround no longer helps. > > Best, > > Rod > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

Re: Latest Firefox, and accessibility

2017-10-10 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Thanks, well, I pretty much only use Firefox for Youtube, and that is with Browse Mode turned off, although lately Youtube has been working better in IE. On 10/9/2017 3:00 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Nick, > > Yes, the workaround no longer helps. > > Best, > > Rod > > -Original