Re: window eyes.

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

Three fourths of my aps suddenly disappeared, last week.  I had to re-install 
them.  Also, my placecards all disappeared and the function no longer works.  
Very strange.



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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:20:26 -0600
Singing Sparrow via Talk  wrote:

> apperently the people at VFO are asuming all people have the free window eyes 
> for office, this makes me wonder if they have stopped sellingwindow eyes all 
> together. has anyone had problems with their apps not being installed or not 
> showing up after countless of restarts and shut downs i can not get any of my 
> apps to show up i have shut off and on appsand that does not seem to work 
> either.
> 
> 
> On 1/11/2017 2:04 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
> > Where do you turn it off?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:56 AM
> > To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: passwords not speaking
> >
> > Pam,
> > Having passwords say star is just a Window-Eyes option that's on by
> > default. It's so we're not broadcasting our password through speech when
> > others are around. But you can turn it off.
> >
> > Hth,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > On 1/11/2017 2:47 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> >> I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message:
> >> passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be
> >> spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person
> >> saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
> >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: passwords not speaking
> >>
> >> Brice,
> >>
> >> I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd
> >> put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
> >> logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> >>> Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
> >>> when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: passwords not speaking

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Bob,

Go to Verbosity, Common, Miscellaneous, and change Speak the word "star" 
in secure edit boxes to no.


Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 3:04 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:

Where do you turn it off?



-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:56 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Pam,
Having passwords say star is just a Window-Eyes option that's on by
default. It's so we're not broadcasting our password through speech when
others are around. But you can turn it off.

Hth,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 2:47 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message:
passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be
spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person
saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Brice,

I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd
put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.

Regards,
Tom


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Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: window eyes.

[John Covici via Talk]

If your apps are not there you can reinstall them and they will be
there.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:20:26 -0500,
Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:
> 
> apperently the people at VFO are asuming all people have the free
> window eyes for office, this makes me wonder if they have stopped
> sellingwindow eyes all together. has anyone had problems with
> their apps not being installed or not showing up after countless
> of restarts and shut downs i can not get any of my apps to show
> up i have shut off and on appsand that does not seem to work
> either.
> 
> 
> On 1/11/2017 2:04 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:
> > Where do you turn it off?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:56 AM
> > To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: passwords not speaking
> > 
> > Pam,
> > Having passwords say star is just a Window-Eyes option that's on by
> > default. It's so we're not broadcasting our password through speech when
> > others are around. But you can turn it off.
> > 
> > Hth,
> > Tom
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/11/2017 2:47 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:
> >> I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message:
> >> passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be
> >> spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person
> >> saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.
> >> 
> >> -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
> >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> >> Subject: Re: passwords not speaking
> >> 
> >> Brice,
> >> 
> >> I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd
> >> put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
> >> logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Tom
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:
> >>> Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
> >>> when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: window eyes.

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there!

Well as of about a week ago, they were still selling Window-Eyes.  Don't 
think theye are going to just stop selling and supporting their product 
without some sort of public notice.  You know, I call them fairly 
regularly and talk to them.  No issues with that at this end.  I have 
every intention of purchasing a new SMA as soon as I can aford it and 
according to the folks I talked with several weeks ago they are and will 
be available for purchase.  I guess anything is possible but I am the 
eternal optimist.  Catch Ya All Later! de


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On 11-Jan-17 15:20, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:
apperently the people at VFO are asuming all people have the free 
window eyes for office, this makes me wonder if they have stopped 
sellingwindow eyes all together. has anyone had problems with their 
apps not being installed or not showing up after countless of restarts 
and shut downs i can not get any of my apps to show up i have shut off 
and on appsand that does not seem to work either.



On 1/11/2017 2:04 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

Where do you turn it off?



-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:56 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Pam,
Having passwords say star is just a Window-Eyes option that's on by
default. It's so we're not broadcasting our password through speech when
others are around. But you can turn it off.

Hth,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 2:47 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message:
passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be
spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person
saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Brice,

I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes 
I'd

put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.

Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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window eyes.

[Singing Sparrow via Talk]

apperently the people at VFO are asuming all people have the free window 
eyes for office, this makes me wonder if they have stopped sellingwindow 
eyes all together. has anyone had problems with their apps not being 
installed or not showing up after countless of restarts and shut downs i 
can not get any of my apps to show up i have shut off and on appsand 
that does not seem to work either.



On 1/11/2017 2:04 PM, Robert Ringwald via Talk wrote:

Where do you turn it off?



-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:56 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Pam,
Having passwords say star is just a Window-Eyes option that's on by
default. It's so we're not broadcasting our password through speech when
others are around. But you can turn it off.

Hth,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 2:47 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message:
passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be
spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person
saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Brice,

I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd
put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.

Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: passwords not speaking

[Robert Ringwald via Talk]

Where do you turn it off?



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:56 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Pam,
Having passwords say star is just a Window-Eyes option that's on by
default. It's so we're not broadcasting our password through speech when
others are around. But you can turn it off.

Hth,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 2:47 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message:
passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be
spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person
saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Brice,

I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd
put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.

Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: passwords not speaking

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Pam,
Having passwords say star is just a Window-Eyes option that's on by 
default. It's so we're not broadcasting our password through speech when 
others are around. But you can turn it off.


Hth,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 2:47 PM, Pamela Dominguez wrote:

I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message:
passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be
spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person
saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Brice,

I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd
put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.

Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

There shouldn't be any reason why you can't take the battery out of your 
tripple talk.  I have a dec-talk express whose battery has been dead for a 
long time.  If it got unpluged, it would make this motorboating noise. 
Everybody said you had to have a battery in there.  Well, I sent mine to get 
worked on, and it no longer has a battery in it, and it works just fine. 
Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Curtis Delzer via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:08 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

The battery in my tripple talk will run the synthesizer for a little
while, but then, after no power from the usb connection for about 4 or
so hours, it begins to make noise! :)
If our power goes off during the night, I get a rude awakening from my
wife, I guarantee!
Tempting to take out the battery because who knows whether or not it may
leak? or corrode? causing other issues.

-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 06:31:45 -0800
Russ Kiehne via Talk  wrote:

The Battery in my TripleTalk usb died a long time back, I had a friend of 
mine take out the battery.  It turns onn and off when I turn on and off 
the computer.


-Original Message- From: net bat via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:28 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

because turning it off with a power strip only turns off the battery 
charger.

the battery would stay on until it completely drains.

-Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:36 AM
To: Neville ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

Why wouldn't the battery turn off if you turned everything off with the
power strip?  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Neville via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 1:43 AM
To: net bat ; Window Eyes
Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

I also use a power strip to turn off all the equipment but the Double
Talk had a hard wired builtin battery whichneeded to be turned off at
the unit.  This, over time, stuffed it up.

Neville.


On 5/12/2016 4:38 PM, net bat wrote:
> i use  a power strip to turn everything off. i would rather wear out the
> power strip then the power buttons on my equipment
>
> -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: Casey ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
>
> Hi,
> Over the years, I have used both the external Double Talk and the
> Tripple Talk syns and would never bother with an external unit again.
> These units were of the serial type and both were quite expensive for
> what they were.
>
> The Double talk needed to be turned off with the on off volume switch at
> the end of each session to save the internal battery.  In time, the
> volume control became quite scratchy and eventually I gave it up.
>
> The Tripple Talk went the same way but in a much shorter time frame. In
> comparison, I found the Tripple Talk to be not worth the money.  Maybe
> the later versions have improved.
>
>
> For some time now I have used a Creative usb external sound card costing
> around $60 connected to a pair of speakers with a volume control. If the
> volume ever becomes scratchy, it is an inexpensive solution just to
> replace the speakers. This setup has been working for years without any
> problems.
>
> I mainly use Eloquence as my software syn and find it very responsive.
> The other benefit to using a software syn is that there are many good
> free voices which can be easily obtained.
>
> Currently I have WE and Eloquence running through the external sound
> card and have another  voice setup to run through the internal sound
> card if required. NVDA also is setup to run through the internal
> cardwhich gives me a way of tracing any problems if WE will not talk
> through the external card.
>
> In short, save your money and get an external sound card as mentioned
> above. With the modern fast computers, lack of responsiveness is not a
> big a problem as it once was.
>
> Neville.
>
> On 5/12/2016 2:42 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:
>> Hi I am thinking about maybe getting one of these synthesizers.
>> The triple talk USB or the dectalk USB.
>> Witch is the better one that will give the fastest response time and
>> work the best with window-eyes?
>> now I know it maybe personal choice.
>> But I know A few of you out hear of used either one of both of these
>> units so all comments and suggestions are welcome.
>> And if you like one over the other please tell us why that is.
>>
>>
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Re: passwords not speaking

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

I just realized a little while ago about the subject of this message: 
passwords not speaking.  I was always told that passwords would not be 
spoken for security reasons.  It says star instead.  Or was the person 
saying that it didn't even say star?  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:02 PM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: passwords not speaking

Brice,

I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd
put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key
logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.

Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

[ratshtron via Talk]

hmmm, take it to batteries plus and have them replace it for you with 
a new one. i have a braille lite that i have done this too several 
times in order to keep using the device. i now have to look for a 
replacement backup lithium battery and holder so i can replace this 
battery easier.



Legend has it that on Wednesday 1/11/2017 01:08 PM, Curtis Delzer via 
Talk said:



The battery in my tripple talk will run the synthesizer for a little
while, but then, after no power from the usb connection for about 4 or
so hours, it begins to make noise! :)
If our power goes off during the night, I get a rude awakening from my
wife, I guarantee!
Tempting to take out the battery because who knows whether or not it may
leak? or corrode? causing other issues.

-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 06:31:45 -0800
Russ Kiehne via Talk  wrote:

> The Battery in my TripleTalk usb died a long time back, I had a 
friend of mine take out the battery.  It turns onn and off when I 
turn on and off the computer.

>
> -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:28 AM
> To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
>
> because turning it off with a power strip only turns off the 
battery charger.

> the battery would stay on until it completely drains.
>
> -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:36 AM
> To: Neville ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
>
> Why wouldn't the battery turn off if you turned everything off with the
> power strip?  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 1:43 AM
> To: net bat ; Window Eyes
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
>
> I also use a power strip to turn off all the equipment but the Double
> Talk had a hard wired builtin battery whichneeded to be turned off at
> the unit.  This, over time, stuffed it up.
>
> Neville.
>
>
> On 5/12/2016 4:38 PM, net bat wrote:
> > i use  a power strip to turn everything off. i would rather wear out the
> > power strip then the power buttons on my equipment
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk
> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:32 PM
> > To: Casey ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
> >
> > Hi,
> > Over the years, I have used both the external Double Talk and the
> > Tripple Talk syns and would never bother with an external unit again.
> > These units were of the serial type and both were quite expensive for
> > what they were.
> >
> > The Double talk needed to be turned off with the on off volume switch at
> > the end of each session to save the internal battery.  In time, the
> > volume control became quite scratchy and eventually I gave it up.
> >
> > The Tripple Talk went the same way but in a much shorter time frame. In
> > comparison, I found the Tripple Talk to be not worth the money.  Maybe
> > the later versions have improved.
> >
> >
> > For some time now I have used a Creative usb external sound card costing
> > around $60 connected to a pair of speakers with a volume control. If the
> > volume ever becomes scratchy, it is an inexpensive solution just to
> > replace the speakers. This setup has been working for years without any
> > problems.
> >
> > I mainly use Eloquence as my software syn and find it very responsive.
> > The other benefit to using a software syn is that there are many good
> > free voices which can be easily obtained.
> >
> > Currently I have WE and Eloquence running through the external sound
> > card and have another  voice setup to run through the internal sound
> > card if required. NVDA also is setup to run through the internal
> > cardwhich gives me a way of tracing any problems if WE will not talk
> > through the external card.
> >
> > In short, save your money and get an external sound card as mentioned
> > above. With the modern fast computers, lack of responsiveness is not a
> > big a problem as it once was.
> >
> > Neville.
> >
> > On 5/12/2016 2:42 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:
> >> Hi I am thinking about maybe getting one of these synthesizers.
> >> The triple talk USB or the dectalk USB.
> >> Witch is the better one that will give the fastest response time and
> >> work the best with window-eyes?
> >> now I know it maybe personal choice.
> >> But I know A few of you out hear of used either one of both of these
> >> units so all comments and suggestions are welcome.
> >> And if you like one over the other please tell us why that is.
> >>
> >>
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> > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared.
> >
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Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

The battery in my tripple talk will run the synthesizer for a little
while, but then, after no power from the usb connection for about 4 or
so hours, it begins to make noise! :) 
If our power goes off during the night, I get a rude awakening from my
wife, I guarantee!
Tempting to take out the battery because who knows whether or not it may
leak? or corrode? causing other issues.

-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 06:31:45 -0800
Russ Kiehne via Talk  wrote:

> The Battery in my TripleTalk usb died a long time back, I had a friend of 
> mine take out the battery.  It turns onn and off when I turn on and off the 
> computer.
> 
> -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 10:28 AM
> To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
> 
> because turning it off with a power strip only turns off the battery charger.
> the battery would stay on until it completely drains.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:36 AM
> To: Neville ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
> 
> Why wouldn't the battery turn off if you turned everything off with the
> power strip?  Pam.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 1:43 AM
> To: net bat ; Window Eyes
> Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
> 
> I also use a power strip to turn off all the equipment but the Double
> Talk had a hard wired builtin battery whichneeded to be turned off at
> the unit.  This, over time, stuffed it up.
> 
> Neville.
> 
> 
> On 5/12/2016 4:38 PM, net bat wrote:
> > i use  a power strip to turn everything off. i would rather wear out the
> > power strip then the power buttons on my equipment
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk
> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 10:32 PM
> > To: Casey ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: the triple talk USB or the dectalk USB
> >
> > Hi,
> > Over the years, I have used both the external Double Talk and the
> > Tripple Talk syns and would never bother with an external unit again.
> > These units were of the serial type and both were quite expensive for
> > what they were.
> >
> > The Double talk needed to be turned off with the on off volume switch at
> > the end of each session to save the internal battery.  In time, the
> > volume control became quite scratchy and eventually I gave it up.
> >
> > The Tripple Talk went the same way but in a much shorter time frame. In
> > comparison, I found the Tripple Talk to be not worth the money.  Maybe
> > the later versions have improved.
> >
> >
> > For some time now I have used a Creative usb external sound card costing
> > around $60 connected to a pair of speakers with a volume control. If the
> > volume ever becomes scratchy, it is an inexpensive solution just to
> > replace the speakers. This setup has been working for years without any
> > problems.
> >
> > I mainly use Eloquence as my software syn and find it very responsive.
> > The other benefit to using a software syn is that there are many good
> > free voices which can be easily obtained.
> >
> > Currently I have WE and Eloquence running through the external sound
> > card and have another  voice setup to run through the internal sound
> > card if required. NVDA also is setup to run through the internal
> > cardwhich gives me a way of tracing any problems if WE will not talk
> > through the external card.
> >
> > In short, save your money and get an external sound card as mentioned
> > above. With the modern fast computers, lack of responsiveness is not a
> > big a problem as it once was.
> >
> > Neville.
> >
> > On 5/12/2016 2:42 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:
> >> Hi I am thinking about maybe getting one of these synthesizers.
> >> The triple talk USB or the dectalk USB.
> >> Witch is the better one that will give the fastest response time and
> >> work the best with window-eyes?
> >> now I know it maybe personal choice.
> >> But I know A few of you out hear of used either one of both of these
> >> units so all comments and suggestions are welcome.
> >> And if you like one over the other please tell us why that is.
> >>
> >>
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Re: passwords not speaking

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Brice,

I'd keep this in mind. And if you have any problems with Window-Eyes I'd 
put it in an exclusion list. Your antivirus may consider it a key 
logger. Although if it does usually none of the browse mode keys work.


Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 1:27 PM, brice Mijares via Talk wrote:

Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.
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Re: Sound Forge Pro 11 app update.

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

You're very welcome, Curtis. I'm glad to help. I kinda like it myself. 
(grin)


Regards,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 1:18 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Tom, as a user of SF, I thank you every day! truly! makes it easier.
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K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 09:52:43 -0500
Tom Kingston via Talk  wrote:


Version 1.2.1 is available.
It addresses the following issues.
1. Fixed a problem with Window-Eyes and Sound Forge version checking on launch.
2. Fixed a potential error with some windows when they are activated due to 
background windows flashing for a moment.
3. Eliminated the rare occasion of "Data window does not have focus" being 
voiced when arrowing through menus.

Enjoy,
Tom

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Re: Organize folders

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

Thank you! I forgot entirely about f6!
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 08:02:02 -0500
Rebecca Lineberger via Talk  wrote:

> You didn't say what version of Windows you're using.  In Windows 10, when
> you're in your list of folders or in a list of files within a folder, the
> quickest way to sort is to press F6.  Window-Eyes will say:
> "Name, closed, split button."
> Press enter, and the contents will flip, a to z, or z to a.
> If you'd rather organize by date, press F6 and right arrow to date modified.
> (That's where the "split comes in.)  You can sort from earliest to most
> recent, or the other way round, just as you can by name.  You can also sort
> by type and size.
> I think the F6 worked this way in Windows 7 too.
> HTH.
> Rebecca
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Don Smith via Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 10:46 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: Organize folders
> 
> Hi Folks:
> 
>  
> 
> I have a drive with a folder called books.
> 
> I have alwas had it sorted from a to z.
> 
>  
> 
> I have just discovered it is now z to a.
> 
>  
> 
> I have no idea why this has happened.
> 
>  
> 
> Have I let an intruder in. (smile)
> 
>  
> 
> I have lookded under the context key where I thought the choice to organize
> was there, but, alas, not there.
> 
> Don
> 
>  
> 
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passwords not speaking

[brice Mijares via Talk]

Did you install a new virus suite? The one I use prevents any feedback 
when entering my password. You don't even hear star.

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Re: Passwords not speaking

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Karen,

While in your browser try the following from within the Window-Eyes 
control panel.
1. Go to Keyboard, Voice, and make sure nothing inadvertently got 
changed there.
2. Go to Verbosity, Common, Miscellaneous, and change Speak the word 
"star" in secure edit boxes to no.


Hth,
Tom


On 1/11/2017 8:59 AM, Karen Poulakos via Talk wrote:

I noticed recently that when I type in a user ID or password on a web site,
the keys are not speaking as I type.  They used to, so I'm not sure what
happened, or when it happened.



Any suggestions on how I can get that function back?



Thanks.



Karen Poulakos

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Re: Sound Forge Pro 11 app update.

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

Tom, as a user of SF, I thank you every day! truly! makes it easier.
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 09:52:43 -0500
Tom Kingston via Talk  wrote:

> Version 1.2.1 is available.
> It addresses the following issues.
> 1. Fixed a problem with Window-Eyes and Sound Forge version checking on 
> launch.
> 2. Fixed a potential error with some windows when they are activated due to 
> background windows flashing for a moment.
> 3. Eliminated the rare occasion of "Data window does not have focus" being 
> voiced when arrowing through menus.
> 
> Enjoy,
> Tom
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Window-eyes on Xbox 1

[jay via Talk]

Hi. 

I was wondering if Window-eyes is able to be installed on the Xbox 1 gaming 
console. 

Thanks. 

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Re: Thunderbird question

[brice Mijares via Talk]

Or control L, or alt home key to go to your home page.

On 1/11/2017 8:23 AM, Singing Sparrow via Talk wrote:

do alt d and type in your web site address. and prwess enter.


On 1/11/2017 10:13 AM, Albert Sanchez via Talk wrote:

I mean FireFox in my previous message,
Thanks, Albert Sanchez
- Original Message - From: "Albert Sanchez via Talk"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:00 AM
Subject: Thunderbird question



Hi List,
I am using Thunderbird on my Windows 7 system with WE 9.0 and have
the following problem. Whenever I open Tbird and enter a website to
go to it opens a website that is full of Add-ons, how do I get rid of
that so that I can open whatever website I want without this
difficulty, thanks,
Albert Sanchez
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Re: Thunderbird question

[Singing Sparrow via Talk]

do alt d and type in your web site address. and prwess enter.


On 1/11/2017 10:13 AM, Albert Sanchez via Talk wrote:

I mean FireFox in my previous message,
Thanks, Albert Sanchez
- Original Message - From: "Albert Sanchez via Talk" 


To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:00 AM
Subject: Thunderbird question



Hi List,
I am using Thunderbird on my Windows 7 system with WE 9.0 and have 
the following problem. Whenever I open Tbird and enter a website to 
go to it opens a website that is full of Add-ons, how do I get rid of 
that so that I can open whatever website I want without this 
difficulty, thanks,

Albert Sanchez
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Re: Thunderbird question

[Albert Sanchez via Talk]

I mean FireFox in my previous message,
Thanks, Albert Sanchez
- Original Message - 
From: "Albert Sanchez via Talk" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:00 AM
Subject: Thunderbird question



Hi List,
I am using Thunderbird on my Windows 7 system with WE 9.0 and have the 
following problem. Whenever I open Tbird and enter a website to go to it 
opens a website that is full of Add-ons, how do I get rid of that so that 
I can open whatever website I want without this difficulty, thanks,

Albert Sanchez
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Re: can gw-micro do us a faviour?

[jay via Talk]

Hi. 

If window-eyes works with windows 10 now, should it work with the major update 
in April as well? I’m pretty sure the folks here won’t stop bringing window 
eyes updates to users without notifying them first. 
> On Jan 11, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think everyone wants to know the answer to this one, that is the bazillion 
> dollar question.  Unfortunately, there are simply no answers.  We can keep 
> sending email after email and keep asking, but the VFO folks aren't going to 
> speak until they're ready.
> 
>So why don't we just relax and when the answers happen, we'll all know.
> 
> On 1/11/2017 9:18 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
>>   I would be interested in knowing what the status of Window-Eyes is?
>> 
>> The reason I ask, I understand there will be a major update to windows 10 in 
>> April.  Will Window-Eyes work with it?
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Jim via Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:03 AM
>> To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: can gw-micro do us a faviour?
>> 
>> Thanks very much for that!
>> 
>> Jim!
>> 
>> 
>> On 10-Jan-17 10:26, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
>>> Finally, some words of wisdom on the subject!  These guys aren't 
>>> going to keep things secret on purpose.  they're not going should we tell 
>>> them now? nope, lets make them wait a few more weeks...it's not like that. 
>>> There are legal reasons why no announcement has been made.  Either keep 
>>> using Window-eyes, or don't. the choice is up to you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/10/2017 8:22 AM, Barbara via Talk wrote:
 Just a few thoughts.  Smile.  All of us would like some answers, but we 
 will
 have to wait.  It is not uncommon for either legal or business reasons that
 public announcements get delayed when there is a business reorganization.
 
 Your comments about selling shares of stock is not likely to be a good
 business choice for a company of this size.  Any size company can become a
 corporation, but there is a great deal more administration, expenses, and
 taxes for a business when it becomes a corporation.  Also some business
 decisions may be made to keep shareholders happy which may also have 
 effects
 which may not be otherwise made.  Since none of us have the information on
 this business, and should not have it, just waiting is all a customer can
 realistically do.  Remember this is a private business and not a government
 agency, public organization,  or a nonprofit organization which have more
 requirements for public disclosure.
 
 All the best,
 
 Barbara
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
 Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:26 AM
 To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 ; Reeva Webb 
 Subject: can gw-micro do us a faviour?
 
 Goodmorning all,
 
 Can for once Gw-Micro do us a faviour and tell us the customers who paid
 them lot of money for WE what is the exact current status of Window-eyes 
 and
 what are the VFO intentions for the future as regarding Window-Eyes.
 
 At least for the money we paid gw-micro in the past years, we the loyal
 customers deserve some solid explanation
 
 Why in the Hell gw-micro does not put shares on the market instead of
 selling the vompany to the VFO, which I'm pretty sure nothing good will
 comes out!
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 
 
 
 Michael Micallef
 Officer in charge of ICT Accessibility Certification
 and ICT Training for Persons with a Visual Impairment
 
 Foundation for Information Technology Accessibility (FITA)
 
 Email:
 Office:
 URL:
 FB:
 michael.mical...@gov.mt
 +356 2599 2343
 http://www.fitamalta.eu
 http://on.fb.me/1hCRTAx
 
 Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this
 e-mail
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Loy via Talk
 Sent: Monday, 09 January 2017 18:06
 To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is surely not dead!
 
 I went to the VFO site and Window Eyes is listed under the AISquared list 
 of
 brands. I went to AISquared and now Window Eyes is listed there. This is
 just what GWMicro said that their sites would eventually be combined. -
 Original Message -
   From: Reeva Webb via Talk
   To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 11:23 AM
   

Thunderbird question

[Albert Sanchez via Talk]

Hi List,
I am using Thunderbird on my Windows 7 system with WE 9.0 and have the 
following problem. Whenever I open Tbird and enter a website to go to it opens 
a website that is full of Add-ons, how do I get rid of that so that I can open 
whatever website I want without this difficulty, thanks,
Albert Sanchez
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Re: can gw-micro do us a faviour?

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

I think everyone wants to know the answer to this one, that is the 
bazillion dollar question.  Unfortunately, there are simply no answers.  
We can keep sending email after email and keep asking, but the VFO folks 
aren't going to speak until they're ready.


So why don't we just relax and when the answers happen, we'll 
all know.


On 1/11/2017 9:18 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
   I would be interested in knowing what the status of Window-Eyes 
is?


The reason I ask, I understand there will be a major update to windows 
10 in April.  Will Window-Eyes work with it?


-Original Message- From: Jim via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:03 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: can gw-micro do us a faviour?

Thanks very much for that!

Jim!


On 10-Jan-17 10:26, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
 Finally, some words of wisdom on the subject!  These guys 
aren't going to keep things secret on purpose.  they're not going 
should we tell them now? nope, lets make them wait a few more 
weeks...it's not like that. There are legal reasons why no 
announcement has been made.  Either keep using Window-eyes, or don't. 
the choice is up to you.





On 1/10/2017 8:22 AM, Barbara via Talk wrote:
Just a few thoughts.  Smile.  All of us would like some answers, but 
we will
have to wait.  It is not uncommon for either legal or business 
reasons that
public announcements get delayed when there is a business 
reorganization.


Your comments about selling shares of stock is not likely to be a good
business choice for a company of this size.  Any size company can 
become a
corporation, but there is a great deal more administration, 
expenses, and

taxes for a business when it becomes a corporation.  Also some business
decisions may be made to keep shareholders happy which may also have 
effects
which may not be otherwise made.  Since none of us have the 
information on
this business, and should not have it, just waiting is all a 
customer can
realistically do.  Remember this is a private business and not a 
government
agency, public organization,  or a nonprofit organization which have 
more

requirements for public disclosure.

All the best,

Barbara


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:26 AM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
; Reeva Webb 
Subject: can gw-micro do us a faviour?

Goodmorning all,

Can for once Gw-Micro do us a faviour and tell us the customers who 
paid
them lot of money for WE what is the exact current status of 
Window-eyes and

what are the VFO intentions for the future as regarding Window-Eyes.

At least for the money we paid gw-micro in the past years, we the loyal
customers deserve some solid explanation

Why in the Hell gw-micro does not put shares on the market instead of
selling the vompany to the VFO, which I'm pretty sure nothing good will
comes out!

Thanks,





Michael Micallef
Officer in charge of ICT Accessibility Certification
and ICT Training for Persons with a Visual Impairment

Foundation for Information Technology Accessibility (FITA)

Email:
Office:
URL:
FB:
michael.mical...@gov.mt
+356 2599 2343
http://www.fitamalta.eu
http://on.fb.me/1hCRTAx

Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this
e-mail










-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: Monday, 09 January 2017 18:06
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is surely not dead!

I went to the VFO site and Window Eyes is listed under the AISquared 
list of
brands. I went to AISquared and now Window Eyes is listed there. 
This is
just what GWMicro said that their sites would eventually be 
combined. -

Original Message -
   From: Reeva Webb via Talk
   To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 11:23 AM
   Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is surely dead!


   If he's gone, then that really is death nail. I won't start up on 
this too
   bad but once the trade shows start, atia, csun etc. The future 
will be

   clear.

   "the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never 
promised
   night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of 
Jericho


   Reeva

   On Jan 9, 2017 10:13 AM, "Don H via Talk" 


   wrote:

   I recently Emailed Arron Smith and got no reply so I am unsure he 
is still

   there.


   On 1/9/2017 10:07 AM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:

   > Hello
   >
   > As I mentioned previously,when the folks who do the real work 
leave, not

   > much can happen. I wonder how many of the GW team remains?
   >
   > Good luck to all of us, Peter Duran
   > ___
 

RE: All phone calls now directed to VFO

[Karen Poulakos via Talk]

I just called to see if they could answer my "Passwords not speaking
question".  The tech person was very nice, and really did try to find an
answer, but was 
unable to come up with a solution.  She took my number and said someone
would call me back.  

My problem is that I no longer get keyboard feedback when typing in user IDs
or passwords.  It works just fine everywhere else.

Karen Poulakos
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+kpoulakos=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 8:23 AM
To: Vaughan Dodd; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

I would be interested in knowing what the status of Window-Eyes is?

The reason I ask, I understand there will be a major update to windows 10 in
April.  Will Window-Eyes work with it?


-Original Message- 
From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:15 AM
To: 'David' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: All phone calls now directed to VFO

I agree with much of what David has said below, but it seems to me that VFO 
could still be much more up front and direct about the changes being 
implemented and VFO's expectation that such changes will be beneficial to 
all of its customers.  Some corporate generated "spin" would be helpful.

It is confusing to mere mortals who have paid for our Window-Eyes to read 
comments about dealers being withdrawn, but when I look here in New Zealand,

I notice that VFO has two dealers, but neither of them historically at least

deals with all products.  And in fact - I have an optelec braille display, 
purchased through a dealer who is not VFO.  So to whom has my Window-eyes 
record gone if I want support - which I don't and never get anyway? VFO as 
the front for Freedom Scientific has discouraged direct contact from 
customers outside of the U.S., whereas after much discussion I did have 
direct contact with the old GW Micro and the more recent AI Squared.   What 
happens if my Optelec product needs to be serviced?  So whilst mergers, 
takeovers, buy-outs etc inevitably bring changes as to how things are done, 
finding out through users being surprised at what they discover is simply 
bad public relations.
Regarding Window-eyes and my braille display: VFO still fronts Freedom 
Scientific far more vigourously than it does AI Squared and Optelec.  Given 
this - my uninformed, speculative logic indicates to me that perhaps Alva 
displays will be discontinued in preference to Focus displays, and that 
Window-Eyes will compete with NVDA as a free product, (but please donate if 
you like it) and so forth.  VFO's wall of death silence contributes to our 
uninformed speculation.

Finally: why do we rant about this when VFO is not even having the decency 
of responding with at least some reassuring words prepared at great expense 
by the marketing and public relations team?

My answer: we just like talking to ourselves and venting, which is  the 
alternative to much more destructive courses of action.


Vaughan.




-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:31 p.m.
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List; ukekearu...@valtdnet.com
Subject: Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

Excuse me, please, but what is all the desperation about?


It is several months now, we have been aware VFO has bought AISquared, who 
in turn bought GWMicro a couple of years ago. So, would it not be simple as 
natural, to expect them to use their company name, when a customer calls in.

If I changed my name to John, would you then be comfortable with me 
answering calls saying:

 "Hello, you are speaking to Peter!"?

Of course, if you are calling some department of VFO, it will be VFO and 
noone else who is rightfully answering the phone.


All you old-timers want them to still present themselves as GWMicro,
when you call in. But if I was a new customer, or at least relatively
new, calling a long-distance number for the first time - I sure would be
confused if I know the manufacturer of my screen reader to be VFO, and
someone comes on and say:

 "GWMicro, how may I help you?"


And since they are all one big company now, it is time for us to realize
that their merging has been more fully completed. Gone are the days,
when a front-desk operator had to be physically located in the same
building as his employer. Who knows, when you call in now aday, the
operator that answers the phone, might be sitting in his living room,
back home in California, Texas, Virginia, or even in New England -
simply just transfering your call to the actual department and personel.


Do you all know, that some companies even have dismissed their
front-desk operator altogether these days? They buy the service from
another company, who has specialized in that kind of services. 

Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

   I would be interested in knowing what the status of Window-Eyes is?

The reason I ask, I understand there will be a major update to windows 10 in
April.  Will Window-Eyes work with it?


-Original Message- 
From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:15 AM
To: 'David' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: All phone calls now directed to VFO

I agree with much of what David has said below, but it seems to me that VFO 
could still be much more up front and direct about the changes being 
implemented and VFO's expectation that such changes will be beneficial to 
all of its customers.  Some corporate generated "spin" would be helpful.


It is confusing to mere mortals who have paid for our Window-Eyes to read 
comments about dealers being withdrawn, but when I look here in New Zealand, 
I notice that VFO has two dealers, but neither of them historically at least 
deals with all products.  And in fact - I have an optelec braille display, 
purchased through a dealer who is not VFO.  So to whom has my Window-eyes 
record gone if I want support - which I don't and never get anyway? VFO as 
the front for Freedom Scientific has discouraged direct contact from 
customers outside of the U.S., whereas after much discussion I did have 
direct contact with the old GW Micro and the more recent AI Squared.   What 
happens if my Optelec product needs to be serviced?  So whilst mergers, 
takeovers, buy-outs etc inevitably bring changes as to how things are done, 
finding out through users being surprised at what they discover is simply 
bad public relations.
Regarding Window-eyes and my braille display: VFO still fronts Freedom 
Scientific far more vigourously than it does AI Squared and Optelec.  Given 
this - my uninformed, speculative logic indicates to me that perhaps Alva 
displays will be discontinued in preference to Focus displays, and that 
Window-Eyes will compete with NVDA as a free product, (but please donate if 
you like it) and so forth.  VFO's wall of death silence contributes to our 
uninformed speculation.


Finally: why do we rant about this when VFO is not even having the decency 
of responding with at least some reassuring words prepared at great expense 
by the marketing and public relations team?


My answer: we just like talking to ourselves and venting, which is  the 
alternative to much more destructive courses of action.



Vaughan.




-Original Message-
From: Talk 
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Behalf Of David via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, 10 January 2017 10:31 p.m.
To: Chris Skarstad; Window-Eyes Discussion List; ukekearu...@valtdnet.com
Subject: Re: All phone calls now directed to VFO

Excuse me, please, but what is all the desperation about?


It is several months now, we have been aware VFO has bought AISquared, who 
in turn bought GWMicro a couple of years ago. So, would it not be simple as 
natural, to expect them to use their company name, when a customer calls in. 
If I changed my name to John, would you then be comfortable with me 
answering calls saying:


"Hello, you are speaking to Peter!"?

Of course, if you are calling some department of VFO, it will be VFO and 
noone else who is rightfully answering the phone.



All you old-timers want them to still present themselves as GWMicro,
when you call in. But if I was a new customer, or at least relatively
new, calling a long-distance number for the first time - I sure would be
confused if I know the manufacturer of my screen reader to be VFO, and
someone comes on and say:

"GWMicro, how may I help you?"


And since they are all one big company now, it is time for us to realize
that their merging has been more fully completed. Gone are the days,
when a front-desk operator had to be physically located in the same
building as his employer. Who knows, when you call in now aday, the
operator that answers the phone, might be sitting in his living room,
back home in California, Texas, Virginia, or even in New England -
simply just transfering your call to the actual department and personel.


Do you all know, that some companies even have dismissed their
front-desk operator altogether these days? They buy the service from
another company, who has specialized in that kind of services. So,
calling a company, talking to some customer care personel, does no
longer dictate that this person even is employed by the company he is
representing when talking to you. He just sees which number you are
calling, and knows what to answer accordingly.


Nope, I am by no means telling this to be the case here, but just
because the company happens to use their real and updated name when
answering the phone, does tell nothing as to whether they have stopped
supporting their long-time customers.


Let's just finalize this message, with a scenario, and you all make up
your mind. Imagine that GWMicro had never been sould out. They would
have stayed exactly the same 

Passwords not speaking

[Karen Poulakos via Talk]

I noticed recently that when I type in a user ID or password on a web site,
the keys are not speaking as I type.  They used to, so I'm not sure what
happened, or when it happened.

 

Any suggestions on how I can get that function back?

 

Thanks.

 

Karen Poulakos

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