Re: FW: Weather or not issue
As a friendly reminder, Please note that to my knowledge, all apps under WinEyes, will hold its dedicated Ini file. As a matter of fact, that is where it stores info about its hotkeys, and a few other basic settings for the app to work properly. In other words, was the app written properly, and especially if the developer took advantage of the programming tools provided by GW, there will always be an associated Ini file to any WinEyes App. Good news: The ini file will - again if the developer kept standard - hold the same name as the app itself. If you want the ini file for WeatherOrNot, find the file named WeatherOrNot.ini, and you are straight to the point. Three basic files will typically be found in your WinEyes Profile Folder, for any app you might have installed. And the fourth would be found, in any newer app's installation. 1. The .WEPM file, which is the actual installer for the app. It might be deleted, but then you are to get hold of it again, should you ever need a clean reinstallation. 2. The .VBS file, sometimes .VBSWECrypt.wsf (which is an encrypted version of the app), or it might be a .JS file, or the like. (Most developers used VBS files, so mainly fix your attention on such.) 3. The .INI file, associated with the app. In just about any case, this will have the same name as the app file itself. 4. An .XML file, which holds the info for the menus, and other user interface. Again, just about without exception, it will have a name corresponding to the app's main file. Older apps, might not necessarily stick to this standard, but most common apps were updated to adhere to the basics outlined by GW, before the whole screen reader was put on the backshelf. If you run the WEPM installer for the actual app, you will see a list of which files it installs by default. A few apps, would hold several .INI and .XML files, and some apps might even generate files on their own, through runtime. In such cases, the additional files might have names, and extensions, that would not necessarily easily be identified to correspond to the actual app name. Even a few apps, might generate whole subfolders under your WE Profile, which might be mandatory for the app to run. But we are then talking about the more heavy and advanced apps. A simple app like WeatherOrNot, will only hold the basic files. In cases, where you want to copy an installation from one computer to the other, or from one user profile to another, you might want to make sure you copy all the implied files, since that would ensure the most sufficient running of your copied version. Glad the initial thread starter got his issue solved.And glad to see my rather lengthy dealing with the matter - a few months back - still lingers, and might be useful. Regards, David David On 5/24/2019 10:25 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Mike, > > My pleasure. Glad I could help. Smile. > > All the best, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On Behalf Of Mike via Talk > Sent: May 24, 2019 4:05 PM > To: Rod Hutton via Talk > Cc: Mike > Subject: Re: FW: Weather or not issue > > Hello Rod > > > I shall keep this for future use. However, I confess, on this occasion I have taken the easy way out. As Weatherornot was working on my laptop I have just copied the .ini across. It is now working fine. However, it is thanks to the forwarded message that I was able to find the .ini file. > > > With thanks and best wishes > > > Mike. > > On 24/05/2019 12:25, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Rod >> >> Sent from Outlook for Windows >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David >> Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Rod Hutton >> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue >> >> OK, guys. >> This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. >> I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. >> >> As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you modify it at all. >> >> OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a
RE: FW: Weather or not issue
Hi Mike, My pleasure. Glad I could help. Smile. All the best, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Mike via Talk Sent: May 24, 2019 4:05 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Mike Subject: Re: FW: Weather or not issue Hello Rod I shall keep this for future use. However, I confess, on this occasion I have taken the easy way out. As Weatherornot was working on my laptop I have just copied the .ini across. It is now working fine. However, it is thanks to the forwarded message that I was able to find the .ini file. With thanks and best wishes Mike. On 24/05/2019 12:25, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out. > > Good luck, > > Rod > > Sent from Outlook for Windows > > -Original Message- > From: David > Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Rod Hutton > Subject: Re: Weather or not issue > > OK, guys. > This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. > I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the > WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick > searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no > clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you > will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following > steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. > > As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before > you modify it at all. > > OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude > coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to > add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy > to operate with WinEyes: > https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. > latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8a283489a4da44dc0be708d6e08331b4% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636943251407282072sd > ata=HBuYYYvsbA%2F2Mg%2F2Nulcvk3udV25%2BdDqVI%2BqGzbKqUI%3Dreserve > d=0 > > When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. > Like: > Toronto, On > for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. > Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. > Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode > here. > > The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or > place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the > page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude and Latitude. > Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below. > > In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the > city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You > would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that > gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file. > > How To Modify The Ini File? > Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the > real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step > by step. > > First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. > The user profile folder will open. > > Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: > WeatherOrNot.ini > , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. > Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all > punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all > important. > > In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads > [Locations] > . Do NOT modify this line. > > Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now > have a blank line for entering your personalized info. > What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep > our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your > personal location: > Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, > please note: > To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we > are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you > keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a > moment. > Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the > website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then > the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates > should be given in posit
Re: FW: Weather or not issue
Hello Rod I shall keep this for future use. However, I confess, on this occasion I have taken the easy way out. As Weatherornot was working on my laptop I have just copied the .ini across. It is now working fine. However, it is thanks to the forwarded message that I was able to find the .ini file. With thanks and best wishes Mike. On 24/05/2019 12:25, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Mike, Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: David Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Weather or not issue OK, guys. This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you modify it at all. OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6f0b78c2423f49f289e108d68a2b14b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636848314961161683sdata=NQTC4YP3torOtuB7zWVBLFwfeE4nDmeg0cLRnThw%2F6U%3Dreserved=0 When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like: Toronto, On for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode here. The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below. In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file. How To Modify The Ini File? Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step. First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The user profile folder will open. Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: WeatherOrNot.ini , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all important. In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads [Locations] . Do NOT modify this line. Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal location: Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please note: To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment. Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website. Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the next modification of the ini file. Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end. You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info the app will read to you. A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to the left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and character sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your location line. In our example,
FW: Weather or not issue
Hi Mike, Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: David Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Weather or not issue OK, guys. This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you modify it at all. OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6f0b78c2423f49f289e108d68a2b14b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636848314961161683sdata=NQTC4YP3torOtuB7zWVBLFwfeE4nDmeg0cLRnThw%2F6U%3Dreserved=0 When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like: Toronto, On for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode here. The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below. In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file. How To Modify The Ini File? Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step. First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The user profile folder will open. Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: WeatherOrNot.ini , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all important. In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads [Locations] . Do NOT modify this line. Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal location: Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please note: To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment. Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website. Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the next modification of the ini file. Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end. You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info the app will read to you. A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to the left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and character sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your location line. In our example, it will look like this: [Toronto, ontario] . Press Enter when you are done. Now that we have established the section, it is time to set it all up. The section should hold four fields. They are placed on individual lines, their name spelled all in lower-cases, and ends with an Equal sign, and your wanted setting. Lets get to them one by one. name= Here enter the name of the location, that
FW: Weather or not issue
Hi all, I had intended to send this to the whole this, but it just went to David alone. Anyway, here it is, as intended. Smile Take care, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Rod Hutton Sent: February 4, 2019 1:03 AM To: 'David' Subject: RE: Weather or not issue Hi David, Thanks so very much for investigating this matter, and my compliments to you for having found a solution to a rather prickly problem. Thanks also for your kind acknowledgment of my home town, old Toronto, on the Great Lakes here in big old Canada. Smile I tested your solution by successfully adding New York City, in the Empire State of the U.S., and it works beautifully. It seems that the key to adding a city is indeed acquiring a decimal value for latitude and longitude, and so the text labels one uses is irrelevant, as long as one matches the labels in the two sections, as you said. Excellent work, David. Smile All the best, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: David Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: Weather or not issue OK, guys. This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through. I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles. As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you modify it at all. OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with WinEyes: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6f0b78c2423f49f289e108d68a2b14b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636848314961161683sdata=NQTC4YP3torOtuB7zWVBLFwfeE4nDmeg0cLRnThw%2F6U%3Dreserved=0 When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like: Toronto, On for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada. Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key. Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode here. The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the Longitude and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below. In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file. How To Modify The Ini File? Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step. First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The user profile folder will open. Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named: WeatherOrNot.ini , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad. Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all important. In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads [Locations] . Do NOT modify this line. Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have a blank line for entering your personalized info. What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal location: Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please note: To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment. Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website. Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the next modification of the ini file. Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end. You now will have to