Re: FW: Weather or not issue

2019-05-24 Thread David via Talk
As a friendly reminder,

Please note that to my knowledge, all apps under WinEyes, will hold its 
dedicated Ini file. As a matter of fact, that is where it stores info 
about its hotkeys, and a few other basic settings for the app to work 
properly. In other words, was the app written properly, and especially 
if the developer took advantage of the programming tools provided by GW, 
there will always be an associated Ini file to any WinEyes App.


Good news:
The ini file will - again if the developer kept standard - hold the same 
name as the app itself. If you want the ini file for WeatherOrNot, find 
the file named WeatherOrNot.ini, and you are straight to the point.

Three basic files will typically be found in your WinEyes Profile 
Folder, for any app you might have installed. And the fourth would be 
found, in any newer app's installation.

1. The .WEPM file, which is the actual installer for the app. It might 
be deleted, but then you are to get hold of it again, should you ever 
need a clean reinstallation.

2. The .VBS file, sometimes .VBSWECrypt.wsf (which is an encrypted 
version of the app), or it might be a .JS file, or the like. (Most 
developers used VBS files, so mainly fix your attention on such.)

3. The .INI file, associated with the app. In just about any case, this 
will have the same name as the app file itself.

4.  An .XML file, which holds the info for the menus, and other user 
interface. Again, just about without exception, it will have a name 
corresponding to the app's main file.

Older apps, might not necessarily stick to this standard, but most 
common apps were updated to adhere to the basics outlined by GW, before 
the whole screen reader was put on the backshelf. If you run the WEPM 
installer for the actual app, you will see a list of which files it 
installs by default. A few apps, would hold several .INI and .XML files, 
and some apps might even generate files on their own, through runtime. 
In such cases, the additional files might have names, and extensions, 
that would not necessarily easily be identified to correspond to the 
actual app name. Even a few apps, might generate whole subfolders under 
your WE Profile, which might be mandatory for the app to run. But we are 
then talking about the more heavy and advanced apps. A simple app like 
WeatherOrNot, will only hold the basic files.

In cases, where you want to copy an installation from one computer to 
the other, or from one user profile to another, you might want to make 
sure you copy all the implied files, since that would ensure the most 
sufficient running of your copied version.

Glad the initial thread starter got his issue solved.And glad to see my 
rather lengthy dealing with the matter - a few months back - still 
lingers, and might be useful.

Regards,
David


David

On 5/24/2019 10:25 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
 > Hi Mike,
 >
 > My pleasure.  Glad I could help. Smile.
 >
 > All the best,
 >
 > Rod
 >
 > Sent from Outlook for Windows
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Talk 
 On Behalf Of 
Mike via Talk
 > Sent: May 24, 2019 4:05 PM
 > To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
 > Cc: Mike 
 > Subject: Re: FW: Weather or not issue
 >
 > Hello Rod
 >
 >
 > I shall keep this for future use.  However, I confess, on this 
occasion I have taken the easy way out.  As Weatherornot was working on 
my laptop I have just copied the .ini across.  It is now working fine.  
However, it is thanks to the forwarded message that I was able to find 
the .ini file.
 >
 >
 > With thanks and best wishes
 >
 >
 > Mike.
 >
 > On 24/05/2019 12:25, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
 >> Hi Mike,
 >>
 >> Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out.
 >>
 >> Good luck,
 >>
 >> Rod
 >>
 >> Sent from Outlook for Windows
 >>
 >> -Original Message-
 >> From: David 
 >> Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
 >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
 >> Cc: Rod Hutton 
 >> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
 >>
 >> OK, guys.
 >> This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
 >> I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with 
the WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick 
searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have 
no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so 
you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the 
following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.
 >>
 >> As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file 
before you modify it at all.
 >>
 >> OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude 
coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying 
to add. I did try a

RE: FW: Weather or not issue

2019-05-24 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Mike,

My pleasure.  Glad I could help. Smile.

All the best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Mike via Talk
Sent: May 24, 2019 4:05 PM
To: Rod Hutton via Talk 
Cc: Mike 
Subject: Re: FW: Weather or not issue

Hello Rod


I shall keep this for future use.  However, I confess, on this occasion I have 
taken the easy way out.  As Weatherornot was working on my laptop I have just 
copied the .ini across.  It is now working fine.  However, it is thanks to the 
forwarded message that I was able to find the .ini file.


With thanks and best wishes


Mike.

On 24/05/2019 12:25, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Rod
>
> Sent from Outlook for Windows
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David 
> Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Cc: Rod Hutton 
> Subject: Re: Weather or not issue
>
> OK, guys.
> This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
> I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
> WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick 
> searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no 
> clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you 
> will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the following 
> steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.
>
> As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before 
> you modify it at all.
>
> OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude 
> coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to 
> add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy 
> to operate with WinEyes:
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C8a283489a4da44dc0be708d6e08331b4%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636943251407282072sd
> ata=HBuYYYvsbA%2F2Mg%2F2Nulcvk3udV25%2BdDqVI%2BqGzbKqUI%3Dreserve
> d=0
>
> When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. 
> Like:
>       Toronto, On
> for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
> Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
> Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode 
> here.
>
> The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or 
> place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the 
> page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude and Latitude. 
> Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below.
>
> In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the 
> city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You 
> would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that 
> gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file.
>
> How To Modify The Ini File?
> Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the 
> real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step 
> by step.
>
> First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. 
> The user profile folder will open.
>
> Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
>       WeatherOrNot.ini
> , and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
> Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
> punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all 
> important.
>
> In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
>       [Locations]
> . Do NOT modify this line.
>
> Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now 
> have a blank line for entering your personalized info.
> What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep 
> our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your 
> personal location:
>       Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, 
> please note:
> To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we 
> are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you 
> keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a 
> moment.
> Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the 
> website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then 
> the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates 
> should be given in posit

Re: FW: Weather or not issue

2019-05-24 Thread Mike via Talk

Hello Rod


I shall keep this for future use.  However, I confess, on this occasion 
I have taken the easy way out.  As Weatherornot was working on my laptop 
I have just copied the .ini across.  It is now working fine.  However, 
it is thanks to the forwarded message that I was able to find the .ini file.



With thanks and best wishes


Mike.

On 24/05/2019 12:25, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:

Hi Mike,

Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: David 
Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings 
on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly 
where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do 
your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave 
me some results. Smiles.

As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you 
modify it at all.

OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, 
in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a 
few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with 
WinEyes:
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6f0b78c2423f49f289e108d68a2b14b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636848314961161683sdata=NQTC4YP3torOtuB7zWVBLFwfeE4nDmeg0cLRnThw%2F6U%3Dreserved=0

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like:
      Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode 
here.

The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or 
place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the 
page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude and Latitude. 
Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below.

In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the 
city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would 
simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives 
you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file.

How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real 
job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step.

First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The 
user profile folder will open.

Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
      WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all 
important.

In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
      [Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have 
a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our 
above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal 
location:
      Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please 
note:
To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are 
entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep 
track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment.
Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. 
First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the 
Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be 
given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website.

Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the 
next modification of the ini file.
Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end.

You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new 
location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info the app will 
read to you.

A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in 
brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to the 
left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and character 
sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your location line. In 
our example, 

FW: Weather or not issue

2019-05-24 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Mike,

Here's a forward of a post a few months back which should help you out.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: David  
Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick searchings 
on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have no clue exactly 
where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so you will have to do 
your own playing around. But when I tried the following steps, it at least gave 
me some results. Smiles.

As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file before you 
modify it at all.

OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude coordinates, 
in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying to add. I did try a 
few webpages, and here is one that I found to be fairly easy to operate with 
WinEyes:
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6f0b78c2423f49f289e108d68a2b14b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636848314961161683sdata=NQTC4YP3torOtuB7zWVBLFwfeE4nDmeg0cLRnThw%2F6U%3Dreserved=0

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your city. Like:
     Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse Mode 
here.

The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city or 
place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button on the 
page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude and Latitude. 
Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be described below.

In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for the 
city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each city. You would 
simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the text line, that gives 
you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info into your ini file.

How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to the real 
job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by it, step by step.

First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter E. The 
user profile folder will open.

Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
     WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are all 
important.

In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
     [Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You now have 
a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To keep our 
above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it to your personal 
location:
     Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710 . To break this line down, please 
note:
To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location we are 
entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as you keep 
track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it in a moment.
Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the website. 
First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and then the 
Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The coordinates should be 
given in positive or negative values, exactly copied from the website.

Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to the 
next modification of the ini file.
Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end.

You now will have to enter a section, holding the actual settings for your new 
location. this section, it is, that controls how and what info the app will 
read to you.

A section, always starts out with a header. That is, a line enclosed in 
brackets. The header, should be an exact copy of the info you entered to the 
left of the Equal sign, in your location line. It is case, and character 
sensitive, so make sure you get an one-by-one copy of your location line. In 
our example, it will look like this:
     [Toronto, ontario]
. Press Enter when you are done.

Now that we have established the section, it is time to set it all up. 
The section should hold four fields. They are placed on individual lines, their 
name spelled all in lower-cases, and ends with an Equal sign, and your wanted 
setting. Lets get to them one by one.

name=
Here enter the name of the location, that 

FW: Weather or not issue

2019-02-04 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi all,

I had intended to send this to the whole this, but it just went to David alone.
Anyway, here it is, as intended. Smile

Take care,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: Rod Hutton 
Sent: February 4, 2019 1:03 AM
To: 'David' 
Subject: RE: Weather or not issue

Hi David,

Thanks so very much for investigating this matter, and my compliments to you 
for having found a solution to a rather prickly problem.
Thanks also for your kind acknowledgment of my home town, old Toronto, on the 
Great Lakes here in big old Canada. Smile
I tested your solution by successfully adding New York City, in the Empire 
State of the U.S., and it works beautifully.
It seems that the key to adding a city is indeed acquiring a decimal value for 
latitude and longitude, and so the text labels one uses is irrelevant, as long 
as one matches the labels in the two sections, as you said.

Excellent work, David. Smile

All the best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook for Windows

-Original Message-
From: David  
Sent: February 3, 2019 5:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: Re: Weather or not issue

OK, guys.
This, is going to be a rather long message, so work your way through.
I will try to share my findings on the issue you are having, with the 
WeatherOrNot app. These are based on some fooling around, and quick 
searchings on the net, so take them for what they are worth. I do have 
no clue exactly where, how or what the Weather app extracts its info, so 
you will have to do your own playing around. But when I tried the 
following steps, it at least gave me some results. Smiles.

As someone suggested, please make it a habit of backing up any file 
before you modify it at all.

OK, the first thing we need to know, is the Longitude and Latitude 
coordinates, in a decimal format, for the city or place you are trying 
to add. I did try a few webpages, and here is one that I found to be 
fairly easy to operate with WinEyes:
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latlong.net%2Fdata=02%7C01%7C%7C6f0b78c2423f49f289e108d68a2b14b7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636848314961161683sdata=NQTC4YP3torOtuB7zWVBLFwfeE4nDmeg0cLRnThw%2F6U%3Dreserved=0

When opening the page, go to the first Edit box, and here enter your 
city. Like:
     Toronto, On
for finding the city of Toronto in the province of Ontario, in Canada.
Once you have typed your info, hit the Enter key.
Please note, it seems that you will have to manually turn back on Browse 
Mode here.

The page will now come up with its results. If it found the exact city 
or place, it will give you two edit boxes, right beneath the Find-button 
on the page. They will hold the necessary numbers, for the  Longitude 
and Latitude. Copy and paste them into your ini file, as will be 
described below.

In a few cases, I noticed the page came up with more than one choice for 
the city. They then were presented in a table, with a link for each 
city. You would simply choose the wanted link, hit Enter, and go to the 
text line, that gives you the coordinates. Copy and paste the given info 
into your ini file.

How To Modify The Ini File?
Now that we have found the needed info to direct the app, let's get to 
the real job. And, yes, it is a bit of typing to be done. We will go by 
it, step by step.

First, open your WE control panel, and hit Alt-F, followed by the letter 
E. The user profile folder will open.

Keep pressing the W, til you get to the file named:
     WeatherOrNot.ini
, and hit Enter on it. It should open in something like Notepad.
Please note, from here, it will be good to have your synth spell out all 
punctuations, and even Upper- and Lower-cased characters, as they are 
all important.

In the ini file, scroll down to the line that reads
     [Locations]
. Do NOT modify this line.

Hit the End-key, to go to the end of the line, and then Hit Enter. You 
now have a blank line for entering your personalized info.
What the app wants here, is a section name, for your new location. To 
keep our above example rolling, enter the following line. Or, modify it 
to your personal location:
     Toronto, Ontario=43.651890, -79.381710
. To break this line down, please note:
To the left of the Equals sign, we give the app the name of the location 
we are entering. It doesn't really matter what name you give it, long as 
you keep track of the exact name and spelling - as we will be using it 
in a moment.
Behind the Equal sign, we give the two coordinates, as copied from the 
website. First the Latitude, followed by a Comma, A space character, and 
then the Longitude value. No other info, no other punctuation. The 
coordinates should be given in positive or negative values, exactly 
copied from the website.

Once this Location line has been established, we are ready to move on to 
the next modification of the ini file.
Move yourself to the bottom of the file, by hitting Ctrl-end.

You now will have to