Re: JAWS Key Commands

[Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk]

At 11:31 AM 2/20/2021, Richard Petty via Talk wrote:
>I too miss We terribly. So many things worked so well about WE and so many
>keystrokes and settings were well planned and well organized. There was a
>nice logic to commands the WE team developed and maintained over time. We
>was (and can still be) an outstanding program--three years beyond
>production.

I used Window-eyes for over 20 years and resisted the JAWS migration 
as much as every die-hard Window-eyes user. That said, JAWS does many 
things that Window-eyes never even tried to do, such as allow 
different voices for screen, cursor, keyboard and message, the use of 
speech schemes and voice aliases.


>I'm gratified to learn Doug Geoffray and Jeremy Curry are still connected
>through affiliation with Microsoft. Their thoughtful leadership in access
>continues to be needed--and I hope and trust this means they have both done
>well past GW Micro and Ai Squared.

Their expertise is why Narrator is almost as useful as NVDA.

>All that being written, I have found using the JAWS laptop keyboard layout
>more comfortable--even on a full keyboard. This arrangement offers an added
>JAWS command key. With that addition and other laptop key combinations, it's
>possible for the user to issue more commands without having to move too
>terribly far from home row keys. That's made a big difference for me.

I concur.

>By the way, to improve my efficiency, I've taken this one step further: I've
>remapped my keyboard.
>* The Left Control Key is to the immediate left of the A Key.
>* To accommodate this change, I moved the CapsLock key to the left of the
>Spacebar
>.* The LeftAlt key is now at the lower left of the keyboard where the Left
>Control key previously was located.
>
>Decades ago, Microsoft did locate the Left Control key to the left of the A
>key, but inexplicably changed the configuration. As much as this key is used
>for navigation, I found it worthwhile to make the change. Key placements are
>now like those on the keyboards I first used with  computers. To make this
>change, I used the SharpKey utility developed by Randy Rantz. SharpKeys is a
>utility that changes the Windows Registry to make specified keys to "act
>like other keys" If you try it, be sure to make a backup of the Windows
>registry. Be very cautious and pay close attention as you work with the
>utility. It's not necessarily intuitive. Again, make a backup before
>changing the registry.
I'll never understand how some folks think. Rather than reassign the 
JAWS hotkeys you find awkward, you remapped your keyboard so that no 
one else can use it and you have to do it again after each Windows 
reinstallation or update?


Orlando Enrique Fiol
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Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist and Pedagogue
Ph.D. in Music theory
University of Pennsylvania: November, 2018
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JAWS Key Commands

[Richard Petty via Talk]

All,

I too miss We terribly. So many things worked so well about WE and so many
keystrokes and settings were well planned and well organized. There was a
nice logic to commands the WE team developed and maintained over time. We
was (and can still be) an outstanding program--three years beyond
production.

I'm gratified to learn Doug Geoffray and Jeremy Curry are still connected
through affiliation with Microsoft. Their thoughtful leadership in access
continues to be needed--and I hope and trust this means they have both done
well past GW Micro and Ai Squared.

All that being written, I have found using the JAWS laptop keyboard layout
more comfortable--even on a full keyboard. This arrangement offers an added
JAWS command key. With that addition and other laptop key combinations, it's
possible for the user to issue more commands without having to move too
terribly far from home row keys. That's made a big difference for me. Also,
I've found FS leaders such as Jeff Bezos to be responsive and most helpful.

By the way, to improve my efficiency, I've taken this one step further: I've
remapped my keyboard.
* The Left Control Key is to the immediate left of the A Key.
* To accommodate this change, I moved the CapsLock key to the left of the
Spacebar
.* The LeftAlt key is now at the lower left of the keyboard where the Left
Control key previously was located.

Decades ago, Microsoft did locate the Left Control key to the left of the A
key, but inexplicably changed the configuration. As much as this key is used
for navigation, I found it worthwhile to make the change. Key placements are
now like those on the keyboards I first used with  computers. To make this
change, I used the SharpKey utility developed by Randy Rantz. SharpKeys is a
utility that changes the Windows Registry to make specified keys to "act
like other keys" If you try it, be sure to make a backup of the Windows
registry. Be very cautious and pay close attention as you work with the
utility. It's not necessarily intuitive. Again, make a backup before
changing the registry.

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 8:40 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. 
Subject: RE: New to the list, saying hello

Jane, you'd probably need Version 9.5.4!  Like you, I MISS WINDOW-EYES
beyond words.  Jaws and its awkward keystroke combinations send shivers over
and above my spines, yet it remains the ONLY DOMINANT GAME in town; sounds
like it is backed by some interesting politicians who are good at the game
of punch, punch and punch some more.

You did say in your post that Doug added you to the list; hmm, could you be
referring to Doug Geoffray?  Is it possible that he's still lurking around
and just listening to us as often as he could?  

Window-Eyes, from its grave, continues to play ball well with Windows10
despite what a few pundits say.  I have not migrated to Windows10 yet; what
I have set up is working for me and I choose to LEAVE WELL alone.  I am a
lot busier TINKERING WITH APPS in Androidville such that the thought of
CROSSING THE REDMOND BRIDGE is just not there for now.  Anyhow, I'll keep on
running and let others set the records a bit more straighter than I may have
done.  Good luck and all the very best!

Sincerely,
Olusegun
Denver, Colorado 

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RE: Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

[Kevin Minor via Talk]

Hi.

Here's how to change the JAWS key to the CAPS LOCK key.

Hit INSERT+J.  In your setup the INSERT key is the JAWS key.

Go to the options menu.  If you have JAWS running in the system tray, you'll 
land on this menu choice.  This is how I run JAWS.  I'm not sure what JAWS 
looks like if not run from the system tray, but you want to get into the 
options menu.  Hit ENTER on that choice.

Now you'll be in the options menu.  Go to BASICS and press ENTER.

Now you'll be in a dialogue.  TAB around until you hear KEYBOARD LAYOUT.  My 
guess is you have it set to desktop.  Change it to laptop.

Finally, TAB to apply if it's available, hit ENTER on it, then hit ENTER on OK.

That's all there is to it.  If you have other questions, speak up.  I don't 
know all the JAWS commands, but I do know some basic ones, and I can search 
through the JAWS info to help.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
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RE: JAWS key

[Amanda Lee via Talk]

You can certainly continue to use Window-Eyes indefinitely.  Migrating
doesn't mean that you have to give-up using Window-Eyes at all.


So if you want to begin using JAWS, then just wait until you have received
the Authorization.

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Don H <lmdd...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: JAWS key

Not yet.
They told me it takes about 24 to 48 hours.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message-
From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:13 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: JAWS key

Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet?  This
40 minute demo mode for JAWS sucks to say the least.
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Re: JAWS key

[Kevin Huber via Talk]

Hi Don:

The JAWS 40 minute demo, as with the Window-eyes 40 minute demo, is
meant to test hthe software's features, and to help you decide if you
want to buy the software.  Don't try to do any real work with it.
(grin)
Kevin Huber



On 5/16/17, Don H via Talk  wrote:
> Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet?  This
> 40 minute demo mode for JAWS sucks to say the least.
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Re: JAWS key

[Pastor Gil Pries via Talk]

Not yet.
They told me it takes about 24 to 48 hours.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message- 
From: Don H via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:13 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: JAWS key

Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet?  This
40 minute demo mode for JAWS sucks to say the least.
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JAWS key

[Don H via Talk]

Has anyone got their JAWS license key via using the web form yet?  This 
40 minute demo mode for JAWS sucks to say the least.

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RE: Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

[Dennis Long via Talk]

I think if you change the keyboard to laptop layout it will do that.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of David via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 6:28 AM
To: WE English Mailinglist
Subject: Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

Tried the demo of Jaws. Sure got a lerning curve. But one thing that I see
as a drawback, is the Jaws-key.


I do understand the jaws-key is the Insert-key. Since I am on a laptop, 
with no numpad, I am using the Insert-key which would be located along 
with my home, end and so forth. Yet, in WE, I have come to appreciate 
the Capslock functioning as an alternative Insert-key. This does not 
seem to be the case under Jaws, at least not on my system.


Question:

Is there a setting in Jaws, that will let me use the Capslock as the 
Jaws-key? And if so, where do I find it. Please bear in mind, I am brand 
new to Jaws - and so are many others - so complete set of steps will be 
highly appreciated.


Thanks to those of you who are more skilled with the other screen reader.



-- 
David

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Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

[David via Talk]

Tried the demo of Jaws. Sure got a lerning curve. But one thing that I 
see as a drawback, is the Jaws-key.


I do understand the jaws-key is the Insert-key. Since I am on a laptop, 
with no numpad, I am using the Insert-key which would be located along 
with my home, end and so forth. Yet, in WE, I have come to appreciate 
the Capslock functioning as an alternative Insert-key. This does not 
seem to be the case under Jaws, at least not on my system.


Question:

Is there a setting in Jaws, that will let me use the Capslock as the 
Jaws-key? And if so, where do I find it. Please bear in mind, I am brand 
new to Jaws - and so are many others - so complete set of steps will be 
highly appreciated.


Thanks to those of you who are more skilled with the other screen reader.



-- 
David

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