Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-24 Thread Tom Fairhurst via Talk 

The question is, "How do you disable it and then reenable it?"

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:18 PM
To: JOHN RIEHL ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

John,

I've left it installed but disabled it. This way most pages will default
to using HTML 5. And when I hit the occasional page that is written to
use only Flash I then enable it and disable it when done.

Hth,
Tom


On 9/23/2016 9:35 PM, JOHN RIEHL via Talk wrote:

Do others on this list agree that this is a reasonable thing to do?

Thanks.





From: Kevin Barry [mailto:krba...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:22 PM
To: JOHN RIEHL; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Dave Bahr
Subject: Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in



Shockwaves extremely old and dangerous, uninstall it.

On Saturday, September 24, 2016, JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:


Does not using Flash degrade Windoweyes performance? By the way, I've
noticed that even with Shockwave disabled, WE still locks up on ocdcasion.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Bahr [mailto:dcba...@gmail.com <javascript:;> ]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:26 PM
To: 'JOHN RIEHL'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash 
content
obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for 
years
now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html 
5,
but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty 
sluggish
in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an 
add-on

like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing.

Hth

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Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
manager to close out Firefox.

And sometimes that doesn't even work.

A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
message asking if I want to allow it.

I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash 
player.

By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?

And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
that has worked fine until very recently?

Thanks.  John

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Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk 

John,

I've left it installed but disabled it. This way most pages will default 
to using HTML 5. And when I hit the occasional page that is written to 
use only Flash I then enable it and disable it when done.


Hth,
Tom


On 9/23/2016 9:35 PM, JOHN RIEHL via Talk wrote:

Do others on this list agree that this is a reasonable thing to do?

Thanks.





From: Kevin Barry [mailto:krba...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:22 PM
To: JOHN RIEHL; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Dave Bahr
Subject: Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in



Shockwaves extremely old and dangerous, uninstall it.

On Saturday, September 24, 2016, JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Does not using Flash degrade Windoweyes performance? By the way, I've
noticed that even with Shockwave disabled, WE still locks up on ocdcasion.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Bahr [mailto:dcba...@gmail.com <javascript:;> ]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:26 PM
To: 'JOHN RIEHL'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash content
obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for years
now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html 5,
but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty sluggish
in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an add-on
like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing.

Hth

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Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Talk
Sent: 09/23/2016 01:22 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;> >
Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
manager to close out Firefox.

And sometimes that doesn't even work.

A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
message asking if I want to allow it.

I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash player.
By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?

And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
that has worked fine until very recently?

Thanks.  John

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re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in 9. Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in (JOHN RIEHL via Talk)

2016-09-23 Thread David Helkenn via Talk 

Hello, John et al:
I too am experiencing the same notice about Adobe's Shock Flash 
Player. I simply select the 'Stop Plugin' option and wait! About 
tenor so seconds later, I get the very same notice with the very same 
options and I make the very same  selection -- 'Stop Plugin."I then 
wait. About another ten seconds go by and I get to repeat the actions 
just described. This cycle goes on for about four or five times until 
the plugin is stopped and Fire Fox then runs okay until something 
else happens... Just what that is, is not to know!


All this is on a W7, WE9.5.3, and FF 48.0.2. I do not believe the 
behavior described is connected with WE9.5.3 or its predecessor:WE9.5.1.


I have no work-around. I have no solution. Sometimes when the blinin' 
system does favors, like invoking FF just because I'm sitting on a 
link in the email, the same behavior happens. I *CANNOT* exit FF 
while the wait period is in effect. The keyboard is out to lunch 
until FF comes back with the notice or the plugin is actualy dead. I 
think the problem is inFF and do not know how to notify Mozilla.


Dave

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RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
any advice on how to uninstall shockwave and substitute a better plugin
would be helpful. More broadly, when would one use  Flash?

-Original Message-
From: Carol and Roger [mailto:carogsm...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:54 PM
To: JOHN RIEHL; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

I would uninstall mine, but I can't figure out how to do it. Firefox 
indicates the plugin is old and vulnerable and has disabled it on my 
machine.  There are supposed to be some other plugins that will play 
Flash, but I use Internet Explorer to do that for now.


On 9/23/2016 9:35 PM, JOHN RIEHL via Talk wrote:
> Do others on this list agree that this is a reasonable thing to do?
>
> Thanks.
>
>   
>
>   
>
> From: Kevin Barry [mailto:krba...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:22 PM
> To: JOHN RIEHL; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Cc: Dave Bahr
> Subject: Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in
>
>   
>
> Shockwaves extremely old and dangerous, uninstall it.
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, JOHN RIEHL via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>
> Does not using Flash degrade Windoweyes performance? By the way, I've
> noticed that even with Shockwave disabled, WE still locks up on ocdcasion.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Bahr [mailto:dcba...@gmail.com <javascript:;> ]
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: 'JOHN RIEHL'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in
>
> Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash
content
> obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for
years
> now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html
5,
> but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty
sluggish
> in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an
add-on
> like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing.
>
> Hth
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dcbahr1 <javascript:;>
=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;> ] On
> Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Talk
> Sent: 09/23/2016 01:22 PM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com
<javascript:;> >
> Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in
>
> Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
> saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
> then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
> Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
> manager to close out Firefox.
>
> And sometimes that doesn't even work.
>
> A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
> message asking if I want to allow it.
>
> I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash
player.
> By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?
>
> And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
> that has worked fine until very recently?
>
> Thanks.  John
>
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Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk 
I would uninstall mine, but I can't figure out how to do it. Firefox 
indicates the plugin is old and vulnerable and has disabled it on my 
machine.  There are supposed to be some other plugins that will play 
Flash, but I use Internet Explorer to do that for now.



On 9/23/2016 9:35 PM, JOHN RIEHL via Talk wrote:

Do others on this list agree that this is a reasonable thing to do?

Thanks.

  

  


From: Kevin Barry [mailto:krba...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:22 PM
To: JOHN RIEHL; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Dave Bahr
Subject: Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

  


Shockwaves extremely old and dangerous, uninstall it.

On Saturday, September 24, 2016, JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Does not using Flash degrade Windoweyes performance? By the way, I've
noticed that even with Shockwave disabled, WE still locks up on ocdcasion.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Bahr [mailto:dcba...@gmail.com <javascript:;> ]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:26 PM
To: 'JOHN RIEHL'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash content
obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for years
now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html 5,
but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty sluggish
in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an add-on
like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing.

Hth

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dcbahr1 <javascript:;> 
=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;> ] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Talk
Sent: 09/23/2016 01:22 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;> >
Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
manager to close out Firefox.

And sometimes that doesn't even work.

A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
message asking if I want to allow it.

I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash player.
By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?

And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
that has worked fine until very recently?

Thanks.  John

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RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
Do others on this list agree that this is a reasonable thing to do?

Thanks. 

 

 

From: Kevin Barry [mailto:krba...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:22 PM
To: JOHN RIEHL; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Dave Bahr
Subject: Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

 

Shockwaves extremely old and dangerous, uninstall it.

On Saturday, September 24, 2016, JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

Does not using Flash degrade Windoweyes performance? By the way, I've
noticed that even with Shockwave disabled, WE still locks up on ocdcasion.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Bahr [mailto:dcba...@gmail.com <javascript:;> ]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:26 PM
To: 'JOHN RIEHL'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash content
obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for years
now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html 5,
but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty sluggish
in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an add-on
like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing.

Hth

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dcbahr1 <javascript:;> 
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Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL via Talk
Sent: 09/23/2016 01:22 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;> >
Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
manager to close out Firefox.

And sometimes that doesn't even work.

A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
message asking if I want to allow it.

I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash player.
By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?

And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
that has worked fine until very recently?

Thanks.  John

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Re: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk 
Shockwaves extremely old and dangerous, uninstall it.

On Saturday, September 24, 2016, JOHN RIEHL via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Does not using Flash degrade Windoweyes performance? By the way, I've
> noticed that even with Shockwave disabled, WE still locks up on ocdcasion.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Bahr [mailto:dcba...@gmail.com <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:26 PM
> To: 'JOHN RIEHL'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in
>
> Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash content
> obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for years
> now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html
> 5,
> but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty
> sluggish
> in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an add-on
> like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing.
>
> Hth
>
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> Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in
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> Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
> saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
> then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
> Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
> manager to close out Firefox.
>
> And sometimes that doesn't even work.
>
> A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
> message asking if I want to allow it.
>
> I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash
> player.
> By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?
>
> And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
> that has worked fine until very recently?
>
> Thanks.  John
>
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RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
Does not using Flash degrade Windoweyes performance? By the way, I've
noticed that even with Shockwave disabled, WE still locks up on ocdcasion. 

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From: Dave Bahr [mailto:dcba...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:26 PM
To: 'JOHN RIEHL'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash content
obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for years
now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html 5,
but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty sluggish
in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an add-on
like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing. 

Hth 

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Sent: 09/23/2016 01:22 PM
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Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
manager to close out Firefox. 

And sometimes that doesn't even work.

A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
message asking if I want to allow it. 

I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash player.
By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?

And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
that has worked fine until very recently?

Thanks.  John  

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RE: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread Dave Bahr via Talk 
Yep same issue here. Disabling the plugin doesn't let you run flash content
obviously. This is an issue that Firefox has had in various forms for years
now. The ideal solution would be for things to migrate from flash to html 5,
but that'll be awhile. I just have noticed window-eyes being pretty sluggish
in firefox as a result. There is always the option, too, of using an add-on
like noscript or flashgot to disable or enable it at ones choosing. 

Hth 

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Sent: 09/23/2016 01:22 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
manager to close out Firefox. 

And sometimes that doesn't even work.

A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
message asking if I want to allow it. 

I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash player.
By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?

And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
that has worked fine until very recently?

Thanks.  John  

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Problem with shockwave (adobe) plug-in

2016-09-23 Thread JOHN RIEHL via Talk 
Hi. Whenever I go to a website in Firefox (and IE too), I get a message
saying that the Shockwave plugin is either busy or has stopped running. I
then get an option to either stop the plug-in or continue. Whichever I do,
Windoweyes crashes on that website and I have to go into Windows Task
manager to close out Firefox. 

And sometimes that doesn't even work.

A friend disabled the shockwave plug-in; now when I go to websites I get a
message asking if I want to allow it. 

I have two questions: I understand that shockwave is the Adobe flash player.
By disabling it, am I impairing Windoweyes in some way?

And, second, how do I fix this problem without having to disable a plug-in
that has worked fine until very recently?

Thanks.  John  

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