[Talk-ko] Any Active Mappers in the Seoul Area

2011-07-10 Thread Brian McLaughlin
I'm new to OpenStreetMap, but have a lot of mapping experience. I live in Goyang and want to know if there are any active mappers in the area. Thanks, Brian ___ Talk-ko mailing list Talk-ko@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-ko] Any Active Mappers in the Seoul Area

2011-07-10 Thread Robert Helvie
Welcome There are a couple of sporadic mappers around Seoul, but I am not sure if they are on the Talk list. Your best bet might be to go to http://www.itoworld.com/static/osm_mapper.html , set up a couple of areas to monitor and just see if anyone maps in your area(s). Then you can try and

Re: [Talk-ko] Any Active Mappers in the Seoul Area

2011-07-10 Thread Andrew Errington
On Sun, July 10, 2011 23:52, Brian McLaughlin wrote: I'm new to OpenStreetMap, but have a lot of mapping experience. I live in Goyang and want to know if there are any active mappers in the area. Hi Brian, Welcome to the mailing list! If you go to your own user page:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-10 Thread Erik Johansson
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:55 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 July 2011 21:49, Andreas Perstinger andreas.perstin...@gmx.net wrote: But that doesn't mean that their content won't show up in a future ODBL

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases

2011-07-10 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: OSM Fork osm-f...@googlegroups.com; openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:27

[OSM-legal-talk] Guidelines on interpretation of section 4.6 od ODbL

2011-07-10 Thread David Groom
One of the main requirements of compliance with ODbL [1] is set out in Section 4.6.As yet there are no community guidelines on how OSM / OSMF interprets this section. There seem to be at least three areas where guidelines might be necessary: A) The term offer as used in the first

[OSM-legal-talk] My recent post to OSM legal talk

2011-07-10 Thread David Groom
Frederick I have just posted a series of questions to the OSM legal talk mailing list. In one point I cite an earlier point you made in an email to the list, and what I inferred from that email. I am in no way meaning to be critical of you, and it may be that I have inferred the wrong

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guidelines on interpretation of section 4.6 od ODbL

2011-07-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, David Groom wrote: A) The term offer as used in the first paragraph of section 4.6 You must also offer to recipients . I would have thought this means that whenever you publicly use a Derivative Database or a Produced Work from a Derivative Database then you must instantly comply with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guidelines on interpretation of section 4.6 od ODbL

2011-07-10 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guidelines on interpretation of section 4.6 od ODbL Hi, David Groom wrote: A)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Coast
On Jul 8, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Anthony wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: shifting to legal Can you at least get me off moderation for the duration of this discussion? Not really my call. Is CloudMade acting within the spirit of the license when

Re: [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases

2011-07-10 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org To: OSM Fork osm-f...@googlegroups.com; openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:24 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases This is an except from a message I sent to Steve. But hopefully

Re: [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases

2011-07-10 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:27 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org How long do I have to keep a copy of the adapted database in case someone takes me up on my offer?  How much of the database do I need to keep?  Is the offer

Re: [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases

2011-07-10 Thread Anthony
Ack. Sorry. I was asked not to post this on the talk list and I didn't realize until after I sent it where it was going. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:27 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: - Original Message -

[OSM-talk] New Garmin AOI maps of European cross-boarder regions

2011-07-10 Thread colliar
There are some maps of European cross-boarder regions available under: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/All_in_one_Garmin_Map/Regions It is possible to request more regions, aswell. This can be only small extracts upto several countries. cu colliar

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/7 Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org: On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 03:35:07PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: is there any consensus on shortening of parts of names?... i was under the impression consensus was to type the full word, then renderers would shorten where necessary? apparently some

Re: [OSM-talk] New Garmin AOI maps of European cross-boarder regions

2011-07-10 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:27:27 +0200, colliar wrote: There are some maps of European cross-boarder regions available under: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/All_in_one_Garmin_Map/Regions It is possible to request more regions, aswell. This can be only small extracts upto several countries.

[OSM-talk-nl] Paden Scheveningse Bosjes

2011-07-10 Thread Frank Fesevur
Hallo, Het valt me op dat de paden in de Scheveningse Bosjes in Den Haag op zijn zachts gezegd een rommeltje zijn. Zie bijvoorbeeld http://osm.org/go/0E4Btyj1x- Opeens dat kaarsrechte pad? Of al die paden kriskras over elkaar? Het lijkt erop dat een deel van de problemen in dat park/bos komt

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Paden Scheveningse Bosjes

2011-07-10 Thread Lennard
On 10-7-2011 20:33, Frank Fesevur wrote: Wat is het handigste om te doen? Terugdraaien is niet het moeilijkste. Er zitten wel veel meer edits in die changeset dan het commentaar Memorial place added doet vermoeden. Er zijn ook veel POI's toegevoegd (versie 1) of gewijzigd (v2+). Het beste

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Paden Scheveningse Bosjes

2011-07-10 Thread Frank Fesevur
De vriendelijk, hulp aanbiedende mail is verstuurd. Nu even afwachten. Gegroet, Frank Op 10 juli 2011 20:50 heeft Lennard l...@xs4all.nl het volgende geschreven: On 10-7-2011 20:33, Frank Fesevur wrote: Wat is het handigste om te doen? Terugdraaien is niet het moeilijkste. Er zitten wel

[talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
I think it's reasonably obvious by now that the two sides in this debate aren't ever going to be reconciled. It's not exclusively an .au problem, but it is mostly. If you look at any of the analysis done recently, Australia simply hasn't taken to ODbL+CT in the way that other countries have.

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-10 Thread James Andrewartha
On 8 July 2011 18:08, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:57, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: We've gone to insanely long lengths to make that the case, including getting clarifications from Ordnance Survey, Nearmap and many others.

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-10 Thread James Andrewartha
On 9 July 2011 02:10, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: Perhaps we're talking at cross purposes because most of the community I'm familiar with, which is all of the EU and the US, consider government data a nice starting point but mappers on the ground as generally much better. Is the

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I think it's reasonably obvious by now that the two sides in this debate aren't ever going to be reconciled. [snip] So, I think, we need to get away from this idea that a fork is a bad thing. It isn't. There are

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Henderson
On 11/07/11 00:02, Richard Fairhurst wrote: So please, let's stop hitting each other over the head with this. That's a very unAustralian attitude. John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 00:02, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Germany 90.1% Great Britain 89.1% France 96.8% North America 96.4% Russia 97.2% Australia 48.4% You didn't show Albania which has an even low acceptance rate, nor did you comment

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 00:02, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Germany 90.1% Great Britain 89.1% France 96.8% North America 96.4% Russia 97.2% Australia 48.4% You didn't show Albania which has an even low acceptance rate,

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 07:54, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Indeed, I was concentrating on the big guys. Albania isn't a big guy. Not sure what your point is about imports but neither GB nor Germany have particularly significant numbers of imports - the only major import we've ever

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 07:54, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Indeed, I was concentrating on the big guys. Albania isn't a big guy. Not sure what your point is about imports but neither GB nor Germany have particularly significant numbers of imports - the only major

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 08:16, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Can we not - both sides - agree to work on building up our own projects, and making them as attractive as possible to users old and new, rather than knocking the other one? But my comment before sets the scene for how OSM-F

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 08:16, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Can we not - both sides - agree to work on building up our own projects, and making them as attractive as possible to users old and new, rather than knocking the other one? But my comment before sets the

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 08:16, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net  wrote: Can we not - both sides - agree to work on building up our own projects, and making them as attractive as possible to users

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread David Murn
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 15:02 +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I think it's reasonably obvious by now that the two sides in this debate aren't ever going to be reconciled. I guess that depends on your definition of reconciled. It's not exclusively an .au problem, but it is mostly. If you look

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Coast
On Jul 10, 2011, at 6:22 PM, David Murn wrote: I think the biggest problem people in .au had was that there were some issues which were specific to the Australian usage of OSM (imports of gov data, etc). Those who sought to change the licence claimed to be listening to people, but when

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 11:55, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: We looked around for all the people claiming that we've been ignoring them and can't actually find any posts by them on the legal lists or to the LWG for many of the people involved. Of course, with so many fake names being used

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Coast
On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:22 PM, John Smith wrote: You keep making the same mistakes, and of course nothing is being resolved because you stick your head in the sand and try and pretend it will just magically take care of itself, all you are achieving lately is showing how arrogant you can be and

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 12:30, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: It's not worth my time responding to messages like this. I wrote a completely rational, neutral and open email outlining the things we've tried and asking for ideas of how to make it better. Yes and didn't respond to a single

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 12:42, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:34 PM, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 12:30, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: It's not worth my time responding to messages like this. I wrote a completely rational, neutral and open email outlining

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Steve Coast
On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:45 PM, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 12:42, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: On Jul 10, 2011, at 7:34 PM, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2011 12:30, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: It's not worth my time responding to messages like this. I wrote a

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread rran...@ihug.com.au
I have only rarely made contributions to this list and never to the legal or LWG lists because I prefer to do things rather than talk about it. I have been contributing to OSM for over 5 years and, last I looked, I was about 800th in number of nodes and ways edited world wide. These

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Sam Couter
Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: I didn't, you are correct. I said I would however, if it was an email assuming good faith and free of personal attacks. This is common is western societies. Or at least polite societies :-) Calling people trolls and puppets doesn't demonstrate an

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Mike Dupont
[SNIP] Flames [/SNIP] Hi, Sorry to get involved in this discussion. But it has been filling up my inbox again. Besides all the flames and smoke, what are the real issues here? I think that we dont need to continue this endless discussion. Lets just stop the fighting and do something more

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 14:53, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Can we make a list of real issues to be resolved and stick with them. There are some issues that wont be resolved, such as hurt feelings and lost trust. But we dont need to have a fight to the death over them. I'd like

[talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread Nick Hocking
Mark wrote Out of interest - the greatest contributor to Australia-Oceania according to http://odbl.de/australia-oceania.html is the accound used for the suburb boundary / postcode boundary import. Once this is excluded, does the figure for Australia improve a lot or only marginally? (Is there

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 15:09, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Mark wrote Out of interest - the greatest contributor to Australia-Oceania according to http://odbl.de/australia-oceania.html is the accound used for the suburb boundary / postcode boundary import. Once this is excluded, does

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 06:53 +0200, Mike Dupont wrote: Besides all the flames and smoke, what are the real issues here? I think that we dont need to continue this endless discussion. Lets just stop the fighting and do something more productive. I think a main issue here, comes down to what

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread David Murn
Hi Nick, Just a quick note that my understanding is those figures are generated based on v1 history, none of the bot edits would have been v1 unless they created a new entity, not just a new/modified tag. David On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 15:09 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote: Hi Mark, Yes if we

Re: [talk-au] Going separate ways

2011-07-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 15:19, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: That takes care of ways, but what about the 1.7million nodes attributed to me? Sorry, that was total objects, only a pitiful 437k nodes. ___ Talk-au mailing list

[Talk-de] OSM-Wochennotiz Nr. 50

2011-07-10 Thread Gehling Marc
Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 51 mit allen Neuigkeiten aus dem OpenStreetMap-Universum ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/2011/07/osm-wochennotiz-nr-51/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] Geänderte Wegführung bei Radrouten

2011-07-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, ich stelle momentan fest, daß sich einige Radwegführungen hier in meiner Gegend (Wernigerode) ändern. Früher verlief die Wegführung durch den Wald, nun scheint die Tendenz zu neu angelegten Straßenparallelen Radwegen zu gehen. Betroffen davon ist die Euro Route R1, hier in Sachsen-Anhalt

Re: [Talk-de] Schweizer Grenzen (war: Re: openstreetmap und qgis)

2011-07-10 Thread Walter Nordmann
hi, qgis 1.8 beta kann inzwischen auch auf osm-Datenbanken im Simple/Snapshot-Format zugreifen und das neue 64-Bit-Format von osm2pgsql sollte auch gehen. hier ein Beispiel: Hintergrund als osm-wms, Grenze als Shape, Haltestellen direkt aus postgresql-db im Snapshot-Format.

Re: [Talk-de] SOTM-EU startet am Freitag in Wien / Lightning Talks

2011-07-10 Thread Andreas Labres
On 09.07.11 21:26, Markus wrote: ich kann noch eine MFG ab Nürnberg bieten. Danke, Markus! Bitte geplante An-/Abreise oder MFG am besten auf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Europe_2011/Transport eintragen. Bis bald - Andreas -- SotM-EU 15.-17. Juli 2011 in Wien:

Re: [Talk-de] OSM kompatible Navi

2011-07-10 Thread pos_ei_don
Nimm doch ein Garming Nüviphone. Naja, es ist nicht Outdoorfähig, aber es gibt Unterwasserschutzfolien. Es navigiert gut und kann OSM-Daten der ganzen Welt darstellen, routen aufzeichnen und Photos mit GPS-Daten machen. Ich nehm einen Oregon fürs Motorrad, ich Spritzwasserfest, und beim Regen

Re: [Talk-de] Geänderte Wegführung bei Radrouten

2011-07-10 Thread Torsten Leistikow
Andreas Tille schrieb am 10.07.2011 09:30: Was ist nun also sinnvollerweise zu tun, wenn es in der Natur zwei verschiedene Ausschilderungen ein und derselben Route gibt? Solange beide ausgeschildert sind, wuerde ich auch beide in OSM erfassen, jede Route als eigene Relation. Da muss dann

Re: [Talk-de] highway=axis

2011-07-10 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Am 01.07.2011 00:44, schrieb Frederik Ramm: PS: Gibt es das eigentlich ueberhaupt, dass Strassen und Schienen ueber die gleiche Bruecke fuehren? Ich kenne, zumindest in Deutschland, glaub ich nur separate Bruecken, selbst wenn beides direkt benachbart ist. Ein besonders schönes

Re: [Talk-de] Redundanz?

2011-07-10 Thread fly
Am 10.07.2011 02:29, schrieb Garry: Am 08.07.2011 15:31, schrieb Tobias Knerr: rd hab ich mich jetzt freiwillig gemeldet?) Sinnvoller wäre es, erst einmal der unglue-Funktion beizubringen, auch bei mehreren ausgewählten Knoten zu funktionieren. Das würde die Aufgabe schon erheblich

Re: [Talk-de] Redundanz?

2011-07-10 Thread Peter
Am 10.07.2011 18:35, schrieb fly: Am 10.07.2011 02:29, schrieb Garry: Am 08.07.2011 15:31, schrieb Tobias Knerr: rd hab ich mich jetzt freiwillig gemeldet?) Sinnvoller wäre es, erst einmal der unglue-Funktion beizubringen, auch bei mehreren ausgewählten Knoten zu funktionieren. Das würde

Re: [Talk-de] Redundanz?

2011-07-10 Thread fly
Am 10.07.2011 03:01, schrieb Stephan Wolff: Am 07.07.2011 09:46, schrieb Florian Lohoff: On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 12:05:13AM +0200, Stephan Wolff wrote: Moin! Am 06.07.2011 14:19, schrieb Florian Lohoff: Nein - es gibt kein ausreichend. Jeder darf so viel und so detailreich mappen wie er

Re: [Talk-de] Redundanz?

2011-07-10 Thread fly
Am 10.07.2011 19:01, schrieb Peter: Am 10.07.2011 18:35, schrieb fly: Am 10.07.2011 02:29, schrieb Garry: Am 08.07.2011 15:31, schrieb Tobias Knerr: rd hab ich mich jetzt freiwillig gemeldet?) Sinnvoller wäre es, erst einmal der unglue-Funktion beizubringen, auch bei mehreren

Re: [Talk-de] Geänderte Wegführung bei Radrouten

2011-07-10 Thread Steffen Wolf
Torsten Leistikow schrieb: Andreas Tille schrieb am 10.07.2011 09:30: Was ist nun also sinnvollerweise zu tun, wenn es in der Natur zwei verschiedene Ausschilderungen ein und derselben Route gibt? Solange beide ausgeschildert sind, wuerde ich auch beide in OSM erfassen, jede Route als eigene

[Talk-de] SOTM-EU - Tickets für den ÖV in Wien

2011-07-10 Thread Andreas Labres
Hallo! Die SOTM-EU rückt heran, ich hätte jetzt ein paar Optionen, für Tickets für den öffentlichen Verkehr in Wien. Also erst mal: Wien (das gesamte Stadtgebiet) ist eine Zone (Kernzone 100), für die Fahrt vom/zum Flughafen Wien Schwechat braucht man mit der S-Bahn (S 7) eine weitere Zone.

Re: [Talk-de] Redundanz?

2011-07-10 Thread Peter
Am 10.07.2011 19:22, schrieb fly: Am 10.07.2011 19:01, schrieb Peter: Am 10.07.2011 18:35, schrieb fly: Am 10.07.2011 02:29, schrieb Garry: Am 08.07.2011 15:31, schrieb Tobias Knerr: [Gemeinsame Konten in mehreren Wegen auflösen] Zusätzlich noch einige andere Funktionen, die für das

Re: [Talk-de] Redundanz?

2011-07-10 Thread fly
Am 10.07.2011 20:07, schrieb Peter: Am 10.07.2011 19:22, schrieb fly: Am 10.07.2011 19:01, schrieb Peter: Am 10.07.2011 18:35, schrieb fly: Am 10.07.2011 02:29, schrieb Garry: Am 08.07.2011 15:31, schrieb Tobias Knerr: [Gemeinsame Konten in mehreren Wegen auflösen] Zusätzlich noch

Re: [Talk-de] Nochmal E-Book

2011-07-10 Thread Jens Poenisch
Hallo, Ich wollte eigentlich den Rand auf 0 pt setzen, so dass das Bild genau passt. Hat aber beim ersten Versuch nicht geklappt. Mein E-Book-Reader schneidet hier ebenfalls ab. Es ist mir bisher nicht gelungen, den Rand wirklich auf 0 herunterzusetzen, keine Ahnung, was ich da falsch

Re: [Talk-de] SOTM-EU - Tickets für den ÖV in Wien

2011-07-10 Thread Robert S.
2011/7/10 Andreas Labres l...@lab.at Eine Einzelfahrt [0] kostet (im Vorverkauf und an den Automaten) auf direktem Weg mit beliebig vielen Umstiegen EUR 1,80. Es gäbe einen Tagesfahrschein, nur den gibt es leider nur als 8-Streifen-Karte [1], die zwar von mehreren Personen gleichzeitig

Re: [Talk-de] SOTM-EU - Tickets für den ÖV in Wien

2011-07-10 Thread Robert Kaiser
Robert S. schrieb: Gelten diese Tickets dann nur für die von den Wiener Linien betriebenen Strecken oder auch in den Regionalzügen (insbesondere S-Bahn) innerhalb der Zone? Durch den Verkehrsverbung VOR gelten alle Tickets für die Zone 100 für alle öffentlichen Verkehrsmittel innerhalb des

Re: [Talk-de] Geänderte Wegführung bei Radrouten

2011-07-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 07:27:14PM +0200, Steffen Wolf wrote: Solange beide ausgeschildert sind, wuerde ich auch beide in OSM erfassen, jede Route als eigene Relation. Da muss dann mindestens ein note-Tag dran, das diese besonderheit erklaert. Ich hab bei einigen Wanderwegen hier um

Re: [Talk-de] OSM kompatible Navi

2011-07-10 Thread Garry
Am 08.07.2011 23:58, schrieb Sven Geggus: Simon Poolesi...@poole.ch wrote: Ist es auch nicht, aber genügend Leute zu finden, die es dann auch bezahlen wollen . Das ist ein pseudo Argument. Im Outdoor Bereich sind Leute bereit für _gute_ Sachen richtig viel Geld auszugeben. Was ist bei

Re: [Talk-de] OSM kompatible Navi

2011-07-10 Thread Garry
Am 09.07.2011 00:44, schrieb Henning Scholland: Und nun erzähl nicht, dass es nicht möglich wäre, ein solches Gerät für 500-600€ zu bauen und mit Gewinn zu verkaufen. Die Software dürfte über kurz oder lang jedenfalls deutlich besser sein, als bspw. die von Garmin. Allein schon, weil man OSM

Re: [Talk-de] highway=axis

2011-07-10 Thread Garry
Am 01.07.2011 00:44, schrieb Frederik Ramm: PS: Gibt es das eigentlich ueberhaupt, dass Strassen und Schienen ueber die gleiche Bruecke fuehren? Ich kenne, zumindest in Deutschland, glaub ich nur separate Bruecken, selbst wenn beides direkt benachbart ist. Die hier auch falls die noch

[Talk-de] Gesucht: Straßenstücke in Relation zusammenfassen

2011-07-10 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
hi! gibt es irgendwo schon ein Script mit welchem man die http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Street (halb)automatisch generieren kann ? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Geänderte Wegführung bei Radrouten

2011-07-10 Thread André Joost
Am 10.07.11 22:39, schrieb Andreas Tille: Ich habe den schwer überprüfbaren Verdacht, daß die neue Wegeführung leichter wartbar ist und der Aufwand, die Waldwege im gewünschten Zustand zu halten, vermieden werden soll. Die Tatsache, daß die alten Schilder noch hängen würde ich eher damit

Re: [Talk-de] SOTM-EU - Tickets für den ÖV in Wien

2011-07-10 Thread Andreas Labres
On 10.07.11 21:44, Robert S. wrote: Gelten diese Tickets dann nur für die von den Wiener Linien betriebenen Strecken oder auch in den Regionalzügen (insbesondere S-Bahn) innerhalb der Zone? Wie Robert schon schrieb, es gibt im Großraum Wien den Verkehrsverbund Ost-Region (www.vor.at

Re: [Talk-de] SOTM-EU - Tickets für den ÖV in Wien

2011-07-10 Thread Andreas Labres
Oder ums nochmal anders zu formulieren: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Schnellverbindungen_Wien.png https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Schnellverbindungen_Wien.png (auf dieser schematischen Karte sind S- und U-Bahnen eingezeichnet) Mit Ausnahme der beiden Haltestellen zum

[Talk-it] OSM Fight

2011-07-10 Thread Stefano Salvador
divertente :-) http://osmfight.neis-one.org/ lo si potrebbe proporre per dirimere le mapping wars. Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-dk] Vejnavne - slut med OSAK-opdateringer af adresser

2011-07-10 Thread Lars Thegler
2011/7/9 Ole Laursen o...@hardworking.dk: Jeg synes under alle omstændigheder at du burde gøre noget ved det script så det kan finde ud af at flette ændringer ind, så længe det Som udgangspunkt er sætninger, der starter med Jeg synes du skal gøre ... ubrugelige i åbne projekter, baseret på

Re: [Talk-dk] Vejnavne - slut med OSAK-opdateringer af adresser

2011-07-10 Thread Kennet Nielsen
Hej Peter og alle i andre Det lyder da ikke godt at du vil stoppe dit OSM-aktivitetsniveau, det vil uden tvivl være et tab for OSM i danmark. Jeg er enig i at man ikke skal forvente at andre vil lave det vi beslutter. Hvilket jeg også ser som et problem igennem hele denne diskussion. Det har

Re: [Talk-dk] Vejnavne - slut med OSAK-opdateringer af adresser

2011-07-10 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 02:24:30PM +0200, Peter Brodersen wrote: Og hvis der er flere veje i nærheden med osak_name-tag? Eller hvis der er en vej i nærheden med et osak_name-tag, som ikke har noget at gøre med det adressepunkt? Efter min mening Det er vejens id nummer der skal på, ikke

Re: [Talk-dk] Vejnavne - slut med OSAK-opdateringer af adresser

2011-07-10 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 03:39:51PM +0200, Peter Brodersen wrote: Så idet det ikke længere er muligt at automatisere processen, regner jeg med at *stoppe* mit opdaterings-script snarest muligt, idet dens nuværende opførsel er i konflikt med ønsket om at tagge anderledes - og at dette ikke er

Re: [Talk-dk] Vejnavne - slut med OSAK-opdateringer af adresser

2011-07-10 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:24:30 +0200, Peter Brodersen wrote: Besvarer lige en del folk: Hvis en bruger af OSM fx bruger et navigationsprogram til at komme til Tengslemark Strandvej nummer 14, kan vi ikke forvente, at brugeren eller programmet ved, at det i virkeligheden er OSAK adressen

Re: [Talk-cz] Navigace OSMAnd - odbočování na dálnici

2011-07-10 Thread Stanislav Brabec
Marek Prokop píše v So 28. 05. 2011 v 11:22 +0200: Ahoj, dálnice pravděpodobně v daném místě zatáčí doleva, zatímco odbočka k pumpě vede v přímém směru. Ano, je to tak. To by měla navigace buď ignorovat, nebo hlásit jako držte se vlevo, nikoli odbočte doleva. Nejsem si ale jistý,

Re: [Talk-cz] Navigace OSMAnd - odbočování na dálnici

2011-07-10 Thread jzvc
Dne 10.7.2011 21:58, Stanislav Brabec napsal(a): Marek Prokop píše v So 28. 05. 2011 v 11:22 +0200: Ahoj, dálnice pravděpodobně v daném místě zatáčí doleva, zatímco odbočka k pumpě vede v přímém směru. Ano, je to tak. To by měla navigace buď ignorovat, nebo hlásit jako držte se vlevo,

Re: [Talk-cz] Navigace OSMAnd - odbočování na dálnici

2011-07-10 Thread Stanislav Brabec
jzvc píše v Ne 10. 07. 2011 v 23:41 +0200: IMO by navigace mela brat v potaz uroven silnice = pokud jedu po dalnici, sjizdi se vzdy vpravo (samo v GB vlevo ...) , pokud jedu po hlavni (= prevazne silnici vyssi urovne, tak jet po ni dal = prevazne pokracovat rovne (i kdyz je to mirna zatacka)

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un problème là : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.3955mlon=3.333zoom=7

2011-07-10 Thread Pieren
2011/7/8 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com J'ai terminé le nettoyage des voies ferrées. Je vous laisse le soin du bâti qui représente encore une belle tartine d'imports multiples. Je m'y colle. À coup de validator, ça a l'aire relativement simple. Un revert des changeset aurait été

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un problème là : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.3955mlon=3.333zoom=7

2011-07-10 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 10/07/2011 09:13, Pieren a écrit : 2011/7/8 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com mailto:vpott...@gmail.com J'ai terminé le nettoyage des voies ferrées. Je vous laisse le soin du bâti qui représente encore une belle tartine d'imports multiples. Je m'y colle. À

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sous-catégorisation des building

2011-07-10 Thread Olivier Croquette
On 9 juil. 2011, at 18:25, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: Pour info, j'ai pris conscience de l'importance de cette sous-catégorisation en regardant les projets de génération de scène 3D à partir des données OSM. Mais cela peut avoir beaucoup d'importance pour des projets de GPS embarqués, dans

[OSM-talk-fr] L'import du bâti...

2011-07-10 Thread Eric SIBERT
Vous connaissiez l'import du bâti avec le cadastre... voici le gars qui dessine le bâti avec Bing : http://osm.org/go/0CAQDEIKj- Alors que je traçais les rues avec le cadastre, j'ai été surpris par la non concordance du bâti avec OSM. C'est alors qu'en consultant l'historique, j'ai découvert

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] L'import du bâti...

2011-07-10 Thread keke79390
Le dimanche 10 juillet 2011 à 22:03 +0200, Eric SIBERT a écrit : Vous connaissiez l'import du bâti avec le cadastre... voici le gars qui dessine le bâti avec Bing : http://osm.org/go/0CAQDEIKj- Alors que je traçais les rues avec le cadastre, j'ai été surpris par la non concordance du bâti

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un problème là : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=47.3955mlon=3.333zoom=7

2011-07-10 Thread Pieren
2011/7/10 Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com ** Pas sur... Il me semble qu'il y avait déjà eu des changements après coup, notamment de xybot qui avait supprimé des dupe nodes. Et identifier parmi les changesets ceux qui étaient à garder (genre premier import) et ceux à supprimer... En

[Talk-us] Grand Jnction Update - TIGER 2010

2011-07-10 Thread Nick Hocking
OK I've moved all the old TIGER roads into line with the imagery and added in all the newer TIGER 2010 roads (a hundred at least). I've got a big cleanup to do and then moving hundreds of drains underground, relocating canals and train lines to fit the imagery and adding bridges level crossings,

Re: [Talk-us] How to get more publicity?

2011-07-10 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi Kai, We've had luck in the past in Washington DC with contacting friends in the press.  The Washington Post came to a mapping party last year.  I think key is having more events, having them at fun places help. For