Re: [talk-cz] Problém s navigací - Černý Důl

2019-07-31 Thread Lukáš Karas
Je možné že jsou špatně zadané povolené rychlosti, navigace nepřidává penalizaci za odbočení a pak jí prostě vyšla tahle cesta jako rychlejší... L Dne středa 31. července 2019 21:56:23 CEST Marián Kyral napsal(a): > Ahoj, > Nevíte někdo, proč mě OsmAnd tlačí v Černém dole ( 50.63496° N,

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Besides the tech boosterism, another issue is that it's disingenuous if Facebook claims to be strongly supporting OSM, while continuing to keep their valuable user-provided data in a separate, proprietary database. Facebook and Google have the two best lists of POIs like shops and restaurants,

[OSM-talk] Proposed removal of rendering support for natural=marsh in Openstreetmap-carto style

2019-07-31 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I've proposed removing the rendering of natural=marsh in Openstreetmap-carto, the rendering stylesheet used for the "standard" map layer on openstreetmap.org https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3829 The common tagging for a marsh is natural=wetland + wetland=marsh as with

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2019-07-29

2019-07-31 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread stevea
(I chose the wrong source email address; apologies if anybody gets this twice). Thanks, Jóhannes. I did try FB's tool myself and was pleasantly surprised it does a "looks OK for now" job of how Mikel put it earlier: "a balance between turbocharged and exploitation." I hear you as you say

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
31. júlí 2019 kl. 19:01, skrifaði "stevea" : > Just because, as you say (and I agree), that "human mappers have not been > able to produce high > quality maps worldwide" doesn't mean that we can't, we simply must strive to > do better. And we do. > And we should using available tools like AI,

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-07-31 Thread dcapillae
Buenas noches. He consultado en la lista general de etiquetado y me han recomendado que use lo siguiente para mapear plazas de toros: leisure=stadium sport=bullfighting Por tanto, mi propuesta sobre cómo deberíamos mapear una plaza de toros sería [1]: Para la plaza, leisure=stadium +

Re: [Talk-GB] How to Fix a "Fix-Me"

2019-07-31 Thread Michael Booth
Looks like the fixme was added to the end node of that road when it was first created, and then the person who added the loop probably didn't realise it was there so it remained. If you look at the node history and the changeset where it was created, you can see the loop being added and the

Re: [Talk-cat] Eliminación del prefijo "WikiProject"

2019-07-31 Thread Carlos Sánchez
Buenas Daniel, Hemos estado hablando del tema. Lo que vamos a hacer primero es especificar Catalunya (o lo que corresponda) en los casos en que se traten de páginas de Wikiproject_Catalunya que abarquen el espacio físico de Catalunya. Se aprovechará para hacer un poco de limpieza. Saludos,

Re: [talk-cz] Problém s navigací - Černý Důl

2019-07-31 Thread Majka
Jaká navigace? Auto? Kolo? Pěší? Vidím tam potenciální problém v chybějícím mostu, na té dvojce není, jen na té ulici co tě to vede. Jestli to náhodou nepředpokládá brod... 31. července 2019 21:56:23 SELČ, "Marián Kyral" napsal: >Ahoj, >Nevíte někdo, proč mě OsmAnd tlačí v Černém dole (

Re: [Talk-at] CS Kommentar durch Problemuser

2019-07-31 Thread Johann Haag
Am Montag, 29. Juli 2019 schrieb Andreas : > Am 27.07.19 um 22:57 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > > Hallo, > > > > der Wunsch von JH, die von ihm "ganz normal gemappten" Edits > > wiederzubekommen, ist verständlich und ich denke, das können wir auch > > umzusetzen versuchen. > > Kann ich auch verstehen,

[talk-cz] Problém s navigací - Černý Důl

2019-07-31 Thread Marián Kyral
Ahoj, Nevíte někdo, proč mě OsmAnd tlačí v Černém dole ( 50.63496° N, 15.71060° E ) touhle "zkratkou"? https://photos.app.goo.gl/s6qyZjXxCytWjY1i7 Díky, Marián -- Odesláno aplikací K-9 Mail ze systému Android. Omluvte prosím moji stručnost.___

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread stevea
Right (or nearly right, imo), Kathy: thank you for your reply. I didn't say OSM absolutely DOES have high quality. In my last decade of mapping here, I certainly have seen it get better (in pockets) as well as worse (in smaller pockets), so on the whole, it gets better / higher quality. What

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Kathleen Lu via talk
I agree that human wisdom is critical to high quality, and AI isn't useful if, at the end of the process, it doesn't produce quality output, but I will challenge this statement: "you can have high quality without AI." I don't think that's definitively true for a global map. It's very difficult to

Re: [Talk-GB] How to Fix a "Fix-Me"

2019-07-31 Thread SK53
Hi Peter, These very much look like fixmes which got forgotten. They do not show up directly in many editors (and only recently in iD). In this case all the ones you mention look to have been fully resolved by the existing mapping. In that case it's safe just to remove the fixmes, which is good

Re: [Talk-cat] Importació centres docents a Catalunya

2019-07-31 Thread Lanxana .
Bones, moltes gràcies Víctor pel llistat, comparar les dues bases ens servirà per saber com de ben situats estan els centres al llistat de la Generalitat, que encara recordo d'algun altre llistat, centres que anaven a parar al mig del mar per errors a les coordenades... El que aniria bé també és

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

2019-07-31 Thread ael
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 01:12:24PM +0100, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > > Trades will occasionally have small items delivered, especially if > specialized or in an emergency.  A foreman I know had his kid's Christmas > present sent to site to keep the surprise. > > Please provide an OSM link to

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

2019-07-31 Thread ael
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 04:20:31PM +0100, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: > On 29/07/2019 11:21, ael wrote: > > In the case that I mentioned, it was certainly not from their own GPS > > logs. > > A few examples I came across while looking at these with a DWG hat on were > also not from GPS logs.  In one

[Talk-GB] How to Fix a "Fix-Me"

2019-07-31 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
If this is not the correct place / route to seek assistance with this issue, please advise me where to go. I see that, on a new housing estate near me, there are a number of "Fix Me" tags on highway=residential, which I would like to fix.   The tags all say, "noexit? turning_circle? stub?"

[Talk-us] Next Virtual Mappy Hour - August 12

2019-07-31 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, The next Virtual Mappy Hour will be on August 12 at 6pm Pacific Time. Find all the details and a sign-up link on the wiki[1]. Let me know if you want to do a 5 minute presentation about any OSM related topic. Doesn't have to be anything big or fancy. We love to hear what you are

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread stevea
Oops, "social conscience." (not conscious) SteveA ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread stevea
I believe introducing into OSM technologies based in AI / machine learning REQUIRES a concomitant discussion about how the data WILL BE high quality, because they are quality assured (and perhaps here is a brief sketch of our QA process, or a pointer thereto). Anything less feels disingenuous

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-07-31 Thread Gruppo Mòcheni 3 . 0
GRAZI Il giorno mer 31 lug 2019 alle ore 09:55 Lorenzo Beltrami < lorenzo.b...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Il giorno mar 30 lug 2019 alle ore 21:07 Gruppo Mòcheni 3.0 < > mocheni...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> Innanzitutto grazie infinite e chiediamo scusa, ancora. >> > Grazie a voi di

Re: [Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-07-31 Thread dcapillae
Buenas tarde. Otras dos opciones que se me ocurren para etiquetar una plaza de toros podrían ser: leisure=stadium stadium=bullring (en lugar de «bull_ring») O bien, leisure=stadium sport=bullfighting Quizás la última sea la mejor opción, incluso mejor que «stadium=bull_ring» (o «bullring»),

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

2019-07-31 Thread Andy Robinson
Thanks Andy, that provides some useful context. As others have also pointed out new data is generally good for OSM and we can't expect all users to ever get all the tags right on a first pass. I'll be keeping a closer eye in my area and will make direct contact with mappers who seem to be

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

2019-07-31 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
On 29/07/2019 11:21, ael wrote: In the case that I mentioned, it was certainly not from their own GPS logs. A few examples I came across while looking at these with a DWG hat on were also not from GPS logs.  In one case Amazon would have had to have been delivering by tractor; in another the

[Talk-es] Cómo mapear una plaza de toros

2019-07-31 Thread dcapillae
Buenas tardes. Recupero este hilo antiguo para recomendar la mejor forma de etiquetar una plaza de toros. Los mapeadores parecen estar usando actualmente dos alternativas: algunos optan directamente por «leisure=bullring», con 49 coincidencia en Taginfo (2019-07-31). Otros prefieren un

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

2019-07-31 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
On 29/07/2019 09:35, Andy Robinson wrote: I've just looked at a number of Amazon Logistics in my local area Just to give everyone a bit of a heads-up about the DWG's involvement here - we got a number of messages about Amazon's mapping.  The biggest immediate problem was their use of

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:41:17AM +0200, Michael Kugelmann wrote: > Am 25.07.2019 um 11:36 schrieb Florian Lohoff: > > And IIRC it was about a > > collaboration with the local community in Thailand which their first aim > > was. > I just remember that the "collaboration" in Thailand some time ago

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 31. Jul 2019, at 14:04, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > > Martin, mi puoi dare la tua definizione di indirizzo? cito la wikipedia italiana, mi sembra abbastanza giusto: > L'indirizzo è la serie di informazioni, presentate in un formato codificato, > necessaria per

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-07-31 Thread Andrea Musuruane
Martin, mi puoi dare la tua definizione di indirizzo? Grazie, Andrea Il mer 31 lug 2019, 10:04 Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 30. Jul 2019, at 18:27, Francesco Ansanelli > wrote: > > > > Ciao Martin, > > Mi spiace contraddirti, ma sono d'accordo con Andrea,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Epreuve Cyclo-randonnée Paris-Brest-Paris dans OSM

2019-07-31 Thread Vincent de Château-Thierry
Bonjour, > De: "Phyks" > > * J'ai supprimé les relations, dans > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72847934. > * J'ai déplacé les tracés dans une Umap, ici > https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/paris-brest-paris-randonneur_351758 Merci pour le suivi, vincent

[talk-au] Road hierarchy in Western Australia

2019-07-31 Thread Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au
According to: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines , https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/Documents/Road%20Hierarchy%20Criteria%20-%20April%202011.u_3158367r_1n_D11%5E2392185.PDF

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-07-31 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
Le 31/07/2019 à 12:30, Jean-Claude Repetto a écrit : - usage général -> highway=unclassified C'est le cas. -- GnuPg : C8F5B1E3 Because privacy matters. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-cat] Importació centres docents a Catalunya

2019-07-31 Thread yo paseopor
Si sabem zonificar-ho per fer tota aquesta feinada podem fer servir el gestor de tasques de la comunitat espanyola. És des d'on gestionem les importacions de cadastre o el SIGPAC de 2019 per a Catalunya. http://tareas.openstreetmap.es Salut i mapes yopaseopor On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:48 PM

Re: [Talk-cat] Importació centres docents a Catalunya

2019-07-31 Thread Victor
He fet una primera prova de aparellar els centres descarregats del OSM amb el llistat de la generalitat mitjançat la proximitat per coordenades, o sigui els que estan a menys d'uns 300m aproximadament. I he generat un csv amb els nom i municipi del centre al OSM i el nom i municipi al csv de la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-07-31 Thread Jean-Claude Repetto
Le 31/07/2019 à 11:15, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : est revêtu d'asphalte et en état plutôt satisfaisant utlisation voiture sans aucun problème même si un peu étroit. Peut-on le passer en « Chemin rural » ou est-ce le cadastre qui commande ? Bonjour, C'est l'usage du chemin, et non son

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-07-31 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
Le 31/07/2019 à 11:21, marc marc a écrit : Bonjour, surface=asphalt smoothness=good Ok. C'est fait. highway=track est un chemin, du coup je ne comprend pas en quoi tu veux le changer Pas très engageant quad tu prépares un itinéraire. Comment est-il routé ? il donne des pistes,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Epreuve Cyclo-randonnée Paris-Brest-Paris dans OSM

2019-07-31 Thread Phyks
Finalement, ma modification précédente n'était pas suffisante. Vu que je n'ai pas de nouvelles de l'auteur initial et qu'il y avait plutôt consensus pour la suppression, * J'ai supprimé les relations, dans https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72847934. * J'ai déplacé les tracés dans une Umap,

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-07-31 Thread David Crochet
Bonjour Le 31/07/2019 à 11:21, marc marc a écrit : il donne des pistes, sans jeux de mot:) Les plus de 50 ans comprendrons: " cinquante francs pour vous monsieur, cent francs pour le nourrin" Cordialement -- David Crochet ___ Talk-fr mailing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-07-31 Thread marc marc
Bonjour, Le 31.07.19 à 11:15, Jacques Lavignotte a écrit : > Ce Chemin : 450089953 > est revêtu d'asphalte et en état plutôt satisfaisant surface=asphalt smoothness=good > utlisation voiture sans aucun problème même si un peu étroit. > Peut-on le passer en « Chemin rural » highway=track est

[OSM-talk-fr] Track -> Chemin rural

2019-07-31 Thread Jacques Lavignotte
Bonjour. Ce Chemin : 450089953 Jeu de données : 63fa4e63 Modifié à : 2016-10-29T15:14:06Z Modifié par : YogiAngad (4797672) Version : 1 Dans le groupe de modifications : 43267563 Attributs : "highway"="track" est revêtu d'asphalte et en état plutôt satisfaisant utlisation

[Talk-cr] Fwd: [talk-latam] semanarioOSM Nº 470 2019-07-16-2019-07-22

2019-07-31 Thread Rodrigo Rodríguez
Hola, el semanarioOSM Nº 470, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12261/ ¡Disfruta! Dicho sea de paso, cada lanzamiento de weekly OSM incluye mucho trabajo recurrente y el apoyo siempre es

Re: [Talk-at] CS Kommentar durch Problemuser

2019-07-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Johann Haag wrote: > Das mit den „Lichtscheuen Gesindel“ tut mit leid. Ich meinte das > keinesfalls persönlich sondern synonym für Leute mit keiner ID > Verschränkung. Der Begriff "Gesindel" ist dafür absolut inakzeptabel, wird er doch hierzulande hauptsächlich von Rassisten benutzt. Zudem

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 31. Jul 2019, at 09:54, Lorenzo Beltrami wrote: >> C) I sentieri vanno tracciati, ma non nominati? > I sentieri sono un po' più complicati da inserire rispetto agli edifici; ci > sono tutta una serie di regole, qua in Italia definite assieme al CAI, da > rispettare. >

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Jul 2019, at 18:27, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > > Ciao Martin, > Mi spiace contraddirti, ma sono d'accordo con Andrea, ma solo per l'Italia > dove il civico rappresenta un ingresso e non uno stabile. non ho scritto che un civico rappresentasse un stabile, ho

Re: [Talk-it] Quesito stabile nuovo da mappare

2019-07-31 Thread Lorenzo Beltrami
Il giorno mar 30 lug 2019 alle ore 21:07 Gruppo Mòcheni 3.0 < mocheni...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Innanzitutto grazie infinite e chiediamo scusa, ancora. > Grazie a voi di partecipare! Inoltre sbagliare è assolutamente normale ed essendo la mappa (ri)modificabile non c'è problema alcuno. ;-) Non

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Yves
John, Kathleen, thank you for this perspective I did not have. Yves Le 29 juillet 2019 19:25:34 GMT+02:00, john whelan a écrit : >I agree with Kathleen. Given that smartphones are more common than >internet connected computers and it is easier to add or change tags on >a >smartphone than add

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Yves
No need to argue that much about it: I think everyone will agree that we should not, at any case, add a track in OSM that doesn't exist. It can be dangerous in any emergency situation anywhere in the world. Yves ___ talk mailing list

[Talk-es] semanarioOSM Nº 470 2019-07-16-2019-07-22

2019-07-31 Thread theweekly . osm
Hola, el semanario Nº 470, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12261/ ¡Disfruta! ¿Sabías que también puedes enviar mensajes para la nota semanal sin ser miembro? Simplemente ingresa a

[Talk-cu] semanarioOSM Nº 470 2019-07-16-2019-07-22

2019-07-31 Thread theweekly . osm
Hola, el semanario Nº 470, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12261/ ¡Disfruta! ¿Sabías que también puedes enviar mensajes para la nota semanal sin ser miembro? Simplemente ingresa a

[OSM-co] semanarioOSM Nº 470 2019-07-16-2019-07-22

2019-07-31 Thread theweekly . osm
Hola, el semanario Nº 470, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12261/ ¡Disfruta! ¿Sabías que también puedes enviar mensajes para la nota semanal sin ser miembro? Simplemente ingresa a

[talk-latam] semanarioOSM Nº 470 2019-07-16-2019-07-22

2019-07-31 Thread theweekly . osm
Hola, el semanario Nº 470, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12261/ ¡Disfruta! ¿Sabías que también puedes enviar mensajes para la nota semanal sin ser miembro? Simplemente ingresa a

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-31 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 10:53:07 -0400 Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 6:19 AM Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > speaking about risks, having an incomplete network of verified, > > correct roads is probably more useful and less troublesome than an > > "overcomplete" one which also

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar panels quarterly project progress

2019-07-31 Thread Gregory Williams
Last night I updated my solar mapping comparison tool to include coverage of Scotland. Unfortunately it had only covered England and Wales up until now because my comparison with the FiT register data was performed at the LSOA level. For Scotland, the comparison is being performed just at the

Re: [Talk-it] [OT] DAE - defibrillatori

2019-07-31 Thread Andreas Lattmann
>In realtà a me al corso di BLS-D hanno insegnato: > > * che si fa il massaggio cardiaco+eventualmente la respirazione (che >non è indispensabile nei primi minuti, a meno che l'arresto non sia >dovuto a soffocamento, mentre è indispensabile far girare il >sangue). Questo permette di