On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes:
[CC-BY-SA unclear, or not permissive enough?]
We know for a fact that a number of people (especially people that have
asked their lawyers for an opinion) have indeed decided not to use our
data
On 10/24/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/21 rhn opstmaac@porcupinefactory.org:
I'm a mapper for more than a year, and I know a little bit about
intellectual property, but some questions have been puzzling me for quite
some time.
First of them - how much is
On 10/16/09, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Richard Fairhurst
rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Erik Johansson wrote:
Open Database License (ODbL)
“Attribution and Share-Alike for Data/Databases”
Yep. Exactly.
CC-BY-SA, famously, allows you to combine
/2009-October/01.html
so if something didn't go wrong everytime i tried to sign up to the new list
i could have read that?
what shaun failed to mention is that message has the following header:
On Wed Oct 7 18:25:24 BST 2009, Matt Amos wrote:
it wasn't already announced, at the time
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Doctau created the following page, and various other people have
contributed to it.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VotingOnTheWikiIsStupid
I don't think voting is stupid, but I do believe that voting
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
what are your thoughts?
I have a hard time seeing how any of these usecases can be anything other
than insubstantial extractions. The database
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Dan Karran d...@karran.net wrote:
What would happen if the beerintheOSM site encouraged their users to
add new pubs to their site, would that data - the equivalent of what
would have come from OSM, had they come from there - need to be
released as well, or
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Richard,
Richard Weait wrote:
Imagine a data provider using perhaps cc-by, or a BSD style permissive
license contributes their data to OSM.
Imagine then that they would like to monitor changes in OSM to data
that
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Matt Amos wrote:
this is the crux of the question. the ODbL makes no distinction
between lat/lon data, ID data, or any other sort of data. so the
question then becomes; if i'm using some data from an ODbL database
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Andrew Turner
ajtur...@highearthorbit.com wrote:
On 2 Oct 2009, at 18:06, Matt Amos wrote:
hi legals,
i've come across a couple of interesting questions / use-cases for the
ODbL and wider discussion. it basically reduces to whether we want the
ODbL to have
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:55 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
On 06/10/2009, at 11:30 PM, Matt Amos wrote:
so far, all the responses seem to indicate that everyone thinks
linking to OSM data by ID is OK. what about Andy's idea, though? is it
OK to take a location, name and possibly
On 10/5/09, Laurence Penney l...@lorp.org wrote:
It seemed clear that such data extractions would not be considered
public domain, simply by virtue of having no grid reference or lat-
long. They were part of MasterMap, hence regarded as chargeable data.
that's the suck-'em-dry licensing model
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/4 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com:
...that he's conducting bizarre breeding
experiments on cute little animals. Basically, SteveC doesn't find
this teasing at all funny.
what's this breeding stuff
russ and i had a useful chat on IRC late last night and i think we've
cleared up the misunderstanding that lies at the root of this thread.
(russ - please correct me if i've misreported anything here).
apologies to anyone who's getting really tired of this thread.
hopefully we're at or near the
.
i'll keep this short, then ;-)
Matt Amos writes:
On 10/3/09, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
you seem to be advocating for a tag with the sole purpose of not
rendering something in a single renderer. to me, that seems wrong.
No, that's not the sole purpose. See my reply to Andrew
On 10/3/09, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Matt Amos writes:
forcing all mappers, editors and renderers to support it?
Why do people keep saying that I want to use force? From where do
they get this idea? Have I ever suggested the use of force? Gun,
knife, sword, empty hand
On 10/3/09, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Matt Amos writes:
I point to the +1 year age of the Noname proposal and recent
inactivity and suggest that convergance isn't happening.
maybe there isn't a need for convergence here? we've got a nonames map
to help mappers decide
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Greg Holloway
peanutzkingpeng...@hotmail.com wrote:
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:19:01 +
From: ava...@gmail.com
To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distribution
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Greg Holloway
hi legals,
i've come across a couple of interesting questions / use-cases for the
ODbL and wider discussion. it basically reduces to whether we want the
ODbL to have viral (GPL-like) behaviour, or whether it should be less
viral (LGPL-like). we've discussed this at an LWG meeting and the
general
On 10/3/09, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Jukka Rahkonen writes:
You seem to believe that SteveC would make such a decision that
makes you happy. How about if he says that if you want people to
continue working with OSM in creative, productive, or unexpected
ways then
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/1 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
let's have a
tagging list. But not here.
+1
+1
cheers,
matt
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talk mailing list
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Andy Allan writes:
can win, and I decided about 6 months ago to ignore (or at least not
rise to) the eternally pointless tagging debate.
The reason it's eternal is because there's no one to choose.
surely it has more to
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
And 2. you are wrong because ODBL tries exactly that, to assert rights
over the collection even in jurisdictions where there are none, by
invoking the idea of a contract - so where is it written
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
On 28/09/2009, at 11:16 PM, Gustav Foseid wrote:
Well... There is no copyright that expires after 15 years. Sui
generis database rights expire after 15 years, but copyright is
hardly very relevant for an OpenStreetMap
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
James Livingston wrote:
On 28/09/2009, at 11:16 PM, Gustav Foseid wrote:
Well... There is no copyright that expires after 15 years. Sui
generis database rights expire after 15 years, but copyright is
hardly very
On 9/19/09, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
On 19 Sep 2009, at 04:38, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 23:19 -0500,
tele...@hushmail.com wrote:
My question is what type of attribution is appropriate? I have no
problem informing my end-users where I get the data. More
On 9/17/09, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
tele...@hushmail.com wrote:
My question is what type of attribution is appropriate?
I think I'm speaking for the majority of contributors when I say that
having the credits in the credits roll at the end of a TV production is
On 9/9/09, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@... writes:
By the sound of that, it seems that they're joining up the GMaps data and
the OSM data, and filtering out the street names in common.
I think that their DB is a derivative work of the OSM data and that
share-alike
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:11 PM, zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
I've shared a document with you:
Summary of Meeting with OSMF Counsel ...
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZPN91k8AaLAZGM5NW14cHNfMWNoeGc4Y2hrhl=eninvite=CJ-c5YkG
It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Nick Barnes wrote:
Point taken, but Wikipedia isn't trying to position itself as a viable
and reliable alternative for a mission critical commercial solution (I'm
thinking about mapping for SatNav devices here).
I
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dave Stubbsosm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Matt Amos wrote:
LWG cannot entirely resolve these questions, as they need open
discussion and community consensus (which we obviously
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Stefan de Koninkste...@konink.de wrote:
SteveC wrote:
inventing nodes, ways, segments (remember them?)
You *did not* invent the spaghetti model, please give credit to the
original inventor Stan Aronoff, in Geographic information systems: A
management
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Stefan de Koninkste...@konink.de wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Matt Amos wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Stefan de Koninkste...@konink.de wrote:
SteveC wrote:
inventing nodes, ways, segments (remember them?)
You *did not* invent the spaghetti model
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Phil
Endecottspam_from_osm_t...@chezphil.org wrote:
Dear All,
I'd like to use the OSM logo (i.e. the magnifier on a map one) for a
go to openstreetmap.org button in an iPhone app. It looks like the
logo is GPL licensed, which prevents me from doing this.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Phil
Endecottspam_from_osm_t...@chezphil.org wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
please use it. the use case you've described is perfectly in keeping
with the intended use of the logo (i.e: it's relevant to OSM). what
sort of license do you need? is your app closed-source
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:19 PM, 80n80n...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Phil
Endecottspam_from_osm_t...@chezphil.org wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
please use it. the use case you've described is perfectly
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Ulf Möller wrote:
No (though you will often see small print disclaimers on them). The
idea of restricting access to age 13+ strikes me as odd in the
extreme. When I get some time I'll do some research into what is
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Ed Avis wrote:
ODbL, as fast as I understand, does not permit re-licensing, which means
that even if you have other data that is ODbL licensed, you cannot
upload it to OSM without express permission of the license
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote:
Francis Davey fjm...@... writes:
Therefore, granting permission on the data can only be a real consideration
when there is some pre-existing law which means the other party needs such
permission. That can be copyright law, database
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote:
As far as I can tell Wikipedia doesn't have 'terms and conditions' on
the website, despite being equally dependent on user contributions and
with more scope for legal risk from libel, offensive content and so
on.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote:
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy
see also the terms at the bottom of every edit box.
These terms and conditions don't try
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Matt Amoszerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote:
Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy
see also the terms
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:36 PM, MPsingular...@gmail.com wrote:
They just mention that the data is free of charge, but don't make
further comments as to the license of it.
I tried to actually download anything ... and I failed ... seems their
server is way too overloaded currently.
i
2009/6/27 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
El Sábado, 27 de Junio de 2009, Dirk-Lüder Kreie escribió:
Where big edit = bbox is larger what the API would allow in a map call?
+1
+1
Would it be possible for the API* (or the editors) to split up big changesets
in bboxes that size?
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Dave Stubbsosm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
2009/6/26 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
Im sending it out to everyone, as its of international significance when
dealing with bulk data.
The 4 general tags
attribution=Natural Resources Canada
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Jonas Krückel wrote:
And the second question is, if it is allowed to translate the agreement
for the user at the sign up process (a word was ported about the
license, I don't really now what this means here)?
If we
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Dave Stubbsosm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote:
2009/6/18 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com:
On Jun 18, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Joe Richards wrote:
Maybe http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=0lon=-0zoom=2 would be more
diplomatic, but then we should be using a map that did not
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:52 PM, SteveCst...@asklater.com wrote:
Isn't that skewed by what the import process to 0.6 defined as a
changeset?
yes. e.g: JOSM uses a changeset for each upload, but the changeset
synthesis procedure created one for each continuous session without
gaps of more than
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
my understanding is that, because we have database rights (and
possibly other IP rights) in the original database, the re-created
database is still (a substantial extract of) an ODbL licensed
database
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Before, the reverse engineering clause would have kicked in and forced
FSM to be under ODBL. In the future, the above will be fully legal, and
the resulting FSM database, which contains facts derived from OSM data
but
2009/6/8 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com:
Whatever you say. I dont have the hacking chops needed to fully understand
the APi and how it works. But I am really interested in seeing some form of
lifespan feature implemented in OSM. So it would be grate if this
discussion makes some
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:17 PM, MPsingular...@gmail.com wrote:
I thought of another wanter feature for 0.7 API
Retrieving deleted objects, similarly like it is done in potlatch.
Currently only potlatch can do this and since potlatch does not work
well with larger areas (it is way too slow)
2009/6/8 Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com:
2009/6/8 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
There are many unsolved questions here. For example: What happens if parts
of the ancient world transcend your fourth dimension, e.g. a
contemporary secondary road uses a few bits of an ancient Roman
2009/6/8 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
The essential thing of my proposal (however it be implemented)
is that NOTHING changes with the current software or apps.
A standard request will just deliver the current state of the map.
The API will filter out all
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
I guess this has the potential to be hellishly complex but also fun.
i guess we've just got different ideas of what fun is... i agree
about the hellish part, though ;-)
cheers,
matt
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Jack Stringerjack.ix...@googlemail.com wrote:
People, companies, organisations can already add anything to the database
right now. They could render a map (or pay someone to do it) with their
locations on.
Without having to sign-up with a OSM account and then
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote:
I'm thinking web based script that produced pdf files of OSM would be
really really good, Possibly rendering direct to PDF (which is
actually a vector based format)
Possibly done so the scale was correct on each page rather
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Mike Collinson wrote:
If it was intended for the extraction of the original data, then it
is a database and not a Produced Work. Otherwise it is a Produced
Work.
We can clearly define things that are USUALLY Produced
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
so... frequently running bots over entire countries to change the
speed limit, or adding (by my count) about 20 million new tags to the
DB, or dealing
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
As stated above, I'd certainly expect that it would be easier for
#989431 to tag DE:rural info
I missed the bit where DE:rural was proposed.
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote:
My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any
country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need
a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
On 18 May 2009, at 01:38, Matt Amos wrote:
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:32 PM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TopSat
http://www.qinetiq.com/home/defence/defence_solutions/space
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:21 PM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote:
It's WAY too easy for a newbie (and I was once) to try to scroll in
Potlatch like they scroll in OpenLayers, munge a way or a node by
moving it
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:32 PM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TopSat
http://www.qinetiq.com/home/defence/defence_solutions/space/topsat.html
Apparently you can rent it for £25k a week... easily within the ambition of
donate.openstreetmap.org.
How large
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On Monday 18 May 2009 02:38:10 Matt Amos wrote:
But you have to
either store some non-trivial part of it on the satellite (that is not
as easy as on earth where you can buy some server with RAID and plug
it into wall
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
There is both the situation were OSM bulk-imports some data
from another source into OSM that is published as ODbL where the
original data owner can not be contacted which I would hope would be
possible,
under the
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
these might be of interest:
http://matt.sandbox.cloudmade.com/
Which would have been fine and dandy in the past, but somebody needs to
nudge that one into life again, /me thinks.
yeah, sorry. its on my todo
2009/5/13 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com:
2009/5/13 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es
As a wise man once said, all problems in computer science can be solved
by
adding another indirection layer.
If you really really want a stream, I'm positive it can be hacked with a
couple of scripts
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:40 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
In a different mail you said:
Ian Dees wrote:
OSM isn't about the geodata, it's about the data. That includes the fact
that it is in the geographic domain, but it also means that we can
manipulate it or store it
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
Ian Dees wrote:
The whole argument I'm making is that after the initial
implementation**, streaming the data is a lot less resource intensive
than what we are currently doing. Perhaps I don't have the whole picture
of what
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
Ian Dees wrote:
The whole argument I'm making is that after the initial
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
why via triggers?
Because the database is the only aggregation point for the data. There are
many API servers (which would be the ideal spot for creating
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
i think if we can get the delay on the diffs down from 5 mins to under
2 mins then there's no reason why streaming can't be built on top of
the diffs and be able to support all the things people want
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
sorry, i wasn't clear in my question: why triggers in particular,
rather than one of the many other features that the DB provides for
doing this?
Mostly
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote:
sorry, i
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
the OSMF LWG recently had a couple of calls with Clark Asay, who has
generously agreed to give OSMF legal advice concerning the new
license. i've attached the write up of the first of the calls
Was that based on the
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
...and
Peter Miller's concerns are legit: If you are the licensor, then, under
4.4.d...
Licensors may authorise a proxy to determine compatible licences under
Section 4.4 a iii. If they do so, the authorised proxy's
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:50 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
You can in theory extract all edits, at higher than 1 minute
granularity, from http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets
together with all history. (From the minutely diffs if a new way is
created and deleted
2009/5/13 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
El Miércoles, 13 de Mayo de 2009, andrzej zaborowski escribió:
From the minutely diffs if a new way is created and deleted in the same
minute, you would never know about it
Can't you get the changeset IDs from the diff, then query the API
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
To be just slightly more constructive, the least invasive way of
querying the API for new data only without changing the code would be to
make multi-GETs for batches of object IDs just above the highest known
object ID.
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger
b...@datenkueche.com wrote:
Hi
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/
That's perfect!!!
Is there also the a file with the *newest* data?
Or do I have to read the timestamp file?
reading the timestamp.txt is the best way to do it.
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Matt,
the least invasive way is to use the minutely diffs, as it doesn't
touch the API or DB servers at all.
Sure, but they are (a) delayed by 5 minutes and (b) broken ;-)
we're working on both (a) and (b) at the
the OSMF LWG recently had a couple of calls with Clark Asay, who has
generously agreed to give OSMF legal advice concerning the new
license. i've attached the write up of the first of the calls, in
which we went over a series of short questions that grant and i had
previously extracted from ulf's
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
I have just concluded an email discussion with Jordan following our
lawyers review of 1.0 who has answered some points but is now saying
that he would need someone to pay him to answer more of them which
leaves
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
Look people, we have new servers and software and we are working to tune
them and resolve various issues. Please be patient and stop all this
moaning in the mean time...
406 ;-)
cheers,
matt
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote:
On Apr 24, 2009, at 11:48 AM, David Lynch wrote:
I agree that checking the import is good, but I have my own issues
with the review tag (having to edit something in order to indicate
that it's correct is counter-intuitive,
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote:
depending on what the data is stored in - alas I have an issue where it
isn't rendering tiles properly, looks to be memory related - those with
really complex coastlines (North West Wales) are rendering in sea colour,
and
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:16 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
If one were to refer to nodes on the two ways instead of the way itself,
it would remove the ambiguity wouldn't it? Albeit more complicated for
the consumer to work out, in that it would have to decide which way the
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM, D Tucny d...@tucny.com wrote:
2009/4/18 Torsten Mohr tm...@s.netic.de
Has anybody got any experience with changing osm.xml to create maps
that look fine when printed (readable text, ...)?
Or do i worry too much and printing PNGs looks just all right?
The
hi robert,
this is really cool! great to see that africover is willing to donate this data.
one thing thats worth pointing out, just in case you hadn't seen it
already; the OSM server will be down from the 17th possibly until the
20th for an upgrade to the API. hopefully this will not
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk
wrote:
I see that xybot has woken up again. Would an announcement on this list
really have been too much to ask?
This might be a pretty drastic
2009/4/11 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
El Sábado, 11 de Abril de 2009, Tim Waters (chippy) escribió:
I think the way these are done are to use a digital evevation model -
I would hope the free SRTM could be sufficient?
On the contrary: AFAIK, SRTM's are done by seeing the
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote:
As someone who has spent many hours dealing with the current database utf-8
issues I'll be ecstatic when 0.6 goes live :-)
just a little tip for anyone else who is really annoyed by broken
UTF-8 - i run all the change files
hi everyone,
a couple of weeks ago xybot appears to have added the fairly pointless
tag addr:country=DK to all the address point information that was
imported in denmark. the information about the import is here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/KMS but i can't find any
information about the
hi thirsty OSMers,
possibly the last bi-weekly london winter pub meetup is tonight at the
Freemason's Arms in Covent Garden[1]. it has been suggested that, now
the clocks have changed and its lighter in the evening, collection of
POIs or addressing data on the way to the pub[2] might be a good
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Brian Quinion
openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:
This should be tagged in a different way that uses fact instead of
opinion/fiction. Perhaps by referring to
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote:
after the wembley mapping party last year i heard suggestions of a
locals=angry tag. maybe we should expand that to include
locals=violent or locals=heavily_armed?
What happened at the Wembley mapping party?
andy and steve
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Adam Killian vi...@bonius.com wrote:
You will find a trace for a very long elliptical area, oriented
East-West.. I am very familiar with this area, and I can't imagine how
anyone would have generated such a trace by any legitimate means.
looks to me like a
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote:
On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
People can then access it using exactly the same language/currency/
interface
that they're used to with OSM.
This only works if Potlatch, JOSM, Merkaartor, Chris
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Hell, if you think having to call two URLs is
too much like hard work, you can augment your data with minutely-updated OSM
dumps, and make everything available from that one place.
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