Re: [OSM-talk] Questions from GSoC 2009 Application

2009-03-12 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com wrote: I'm guessing the Rails Port is under GPL (although not explicitly stated anywhere) http://svn.openstreetmap.org/LICENSE ? cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-12 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:43 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: . However, I reject the idea that there is any data that belongs in OSM that makes no sense to edit. If you can't edit it, then by definition it shouldn't be in a

Re: [OSM-talk] Cloudmade: We are the Wikipedia of maps

2009-03-11 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: You have to explain how your rants help the project.  The impression I get is that you cause division rather than unity.  Is that your goal? That seems destructive and irrational.  If you want the public to understand the

Re: [OSM-talk] Cloudmade: We are the Wikipedia of maps

2009-03-10 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I know that the press always write what they want (or what they think they understand) and not necessarily what you tell them. However, this is not the first time that the OpenStreetMap project has been confused with

Re: [OSM-talk] membership email id is bouncing

2009-03-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: hi, was trying to reply to Mike Collinson's mail, but the id membership@ is bouncing: i think the reply-to is supposed to be members...@osmfoundation.org :-)

Re: [OSM-talk] License to kill

2009-03-05 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: COMMUNITY HELP... Could I ask some guys to please go through the list http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Use_Cases And flag which one still require a response from the OSMF lawyer including those

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? - How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-05 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 12:19 PM, graham wrote: I think it would be extremely helpful if the licenses themselves included an explanation for non-lawyers, in the way the gpl always did. Not always a good idea.  If your license

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? - How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-05 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Matt Amos wrote: ummm good? as long as the explanation doesn't contradict the license, what is the problem? The problem is that you've got an impedance mismatch.  If you comment about your

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? - How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-05 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:54 PM, Matt Amos wrote:  us trying to read a complex license without comments is like lawyers trying to read complex code without comments. They're mostly hard to read because they're tedious

Re: [OSM-talk] licence plan - Question about supplying own data

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote: Your 8 year old kids would be obliged to license their butterfly data under the ODbL [1] and attribute OSM. [1] Ignoring potential bug in 0.9 draft its not a bug, its a feature ;-) cheers, matt

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM license change: A license to kill? - How to make a nightmare come true!

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:49 AM, MP singular...@gmail.com wrote: 3. Define a way for feedback from the community. Maybe some unoffical votes would have given an impression on how well a particular idea would have worked. Maybe put up a poll like: Do you think OSM should change license for

Re: [OSM-talk] License to kill

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Amos
i'm in ur maling list, fixin ur logics. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:24 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Here's where your logic is falling over. 1) read about Steve being reluctant 2) Steve is evil 3) mail the list 4) ??? 5) PROFIT!!1! cheers, matt

Re: [OSM-talk] Post tastsic questions of my own

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:07 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: We'll build a better world with unicorns and water that runs uphill. http://mutleyjames.livejournal.com/316400.html EVIL!!1! cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

2009-03-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 27 February 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: If you take a *relaxed* view then all our data is un-protected anyway because facts are not copyrightable. With that relaxed view I'd be copying teleatlas maps by now.

Re: [OSM-talk] Server donation drive

2009-02-07 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: These are my favourite: Anonymous http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=48.39109325661635lon=-4.484448865324551zoom=13layers=B000F000 We don't know who it is, but we know where they live ;) Next time we should ask each donor for a

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] donating read-only api-mirrors

2009-02-06 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz wrote: On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Erik Johansson wrote: How much of the DB load comes from the read only part of the API, and what if you remove the area limit on the map call? If I

Re: [Talk-GB] Efficient processing of map data for rendering (BOINC).

2009-01-24 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009, Matt Amos wrote: this might be helpful http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/export/tile_expiry/ Yes, I had a look at that script, but it only expires tiles with nodes on them, which I think

Re: [Talk-GB] Efficient processing of map data for rendering (BOINC).

2009-01-23 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009, Chris Andrew wrote: I notice that people often mention the delay in map edits being applied and made _live_. On a related note... For OpenPisteMap, I apply the diffs to the PostGIS DB every minute,

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO animation for 2008

2009-01-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: We have put in a good couple of years building up the code-base so that we can now do things like this relatively easily and we hope to do lots of new fun stuff with it in 2009. One of the things are wanting to do is

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO animation for 2008

2009-01-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: On 2 Jan 2009, at 18:24, Matt Amos wrote: where did you get the cool music from? its credited to vincent gerès, but a quick google didn't seem

Re: [Talk-GB] London drinks

2009-01-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: I had been wondering why there weren't any pre-Christmas London drinks. Was meaning to suggest some before I go back to uni/Durham on the 13th Jan. there was one on the 10th dec, but maybe thats too early to count as

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated view of 'A year of edits on OSM' and alsoSanta's Routes!

2008-12-15 Thread Matt Amos
proving that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :-) http://blog.cloudmade.com/2008/12/15/an-animated-year-of-edits-on-osm/ cheers, matt On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: On 11 Dec 2008, at 15:23, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Thu,

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's relations with name-based references, when we already have proper relations? Because editor support is almost non-existent, and exceptionally confusing :-)

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Amos wrote: sure, editor support isn't 100% yet, but why re-create a poor-man's relations with name-based references, when we already have proper relations? In my eyes an address is not a relation. It comes close

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Amos wrote: except when it doesn't - e.g: misspelled streets, deleted in use streets, etc... A little redundancy doesn't hurt - on the contrary, it makes spotting mistakes easier. and prevention is better than

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An even better alternative would probably be to add the collected street relation to the associatedStreet one, but I'm not sure there is support for relations in relations in the api / editors Still my advice is not to

Re: [OSM-talk] addressing

2008-12-09 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Dave Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where a block had a single entrance equipped with doorbell/entry phone/postboxes I added the wonderful tag addr:flats=1-10 to the building. ie: I treated it as a black box, and merely stated what numbers were inside. Often

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-11-28 Thread Matt Amos
can i plug http://www.redmine.org/ ? its a very nice bit of software and we may be able to steal the bug-tracking bit of it. cheers, matt On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Christoph Böhme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a follow up to my last message: I did a bit of research on the osm

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-11-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I believe the notes API may suffer - my interpretation - from the idea of putting comments directly into the OSM database rather than into a separate data set where they - my opinion - belong but it's worth checking

Re: [OSM-talk] Make Messaging public, or other changes?

2008-11-24 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a very clear sign that we did something wrong by implementing half of an email system ;-) maybe we should drop that kind of user messaging and just configure a mailer to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the appropriate

Re: [OSM-talk] Make Messaging public, or other changes?

2008-11-24 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Matt Amos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a very clear sign that we did something wrong by implementing half of an email system ;-) maybe we should drop that kind of user messaging and just

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation to kml

2008-11-19 Thread Matt Amos
2008/11/19 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's s slow. At the moment I have to make a http connection for every way and every node of every way. Is there a way to speed that up? just append /full to the end of the api request to get all the ways and nodes in a relation. for

Re: [OSM-talk] Video with all OSM contributors

2008-11-18 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:13 AM, maning sambale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I request for the high-res (37 MB) Credits video. I want to show them to a lightning talk about OSM tomorrow. Sorry, short notice. I was asked to present just yesterday. the full version is linked to from

Re: [OSM-talk] Why is JOSM upload so slow?

2008-11-15 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Keith Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see. Thanks for the information. When will the 0.6 API be ready and in use then? we're aiming for christmas. if anyone wants to help out with the server or client code, see the (mostly up-to-date) list of things on the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Contour lines from SRTM-Data in OSM format

2008-11-15 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, first of all, CycleMap uses the same SRTM data (as far as I know), so if the license is an issue, this applies to CycleMap too. I haven't been able to find any info directly describing the license of SRTM, but, as far

[OSM-talk] Hexaflexamaps

2008-11-12 Thread Matt Amos
tri-hexaflexagons [1] are fun little folds of paper which make a hexagon with three sides (and there are variants with more faces). they were first publicised by Martin Gardner in SciAm's Mathematical Recreations column, which is reprinted in his book [2]. i thought they would look cool with maps

Re: [OSM-talk] New Debugging-Tool: OSM-Inspector

2008-10-30 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Matt Amos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as far as i can tell, the postal_code tag has been used for about a year and a half longer than addr:postcode, although i can't find much mention of it on the mailing list / wiki besides these: d'oh! i am informed (thanks

Re: [OSM-talk] New Debugging-Tool: OSM-Inspector

2008-10-30 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about plain old postcode=? how much has that been used? post_code: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/288031607 :-) cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] New Debugging-Tool: OSM-Inspector

2008-10-30 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have added a new layer to the OSM inspector showing ways tagged with postal_code. If you zoom in far enough they are labelled. Nothing as cool as your rendering, though. :-) Using the Voronoi stuff to get the postcode

Re: [OSM-talk] New Debugging-Tool: OSM-Inspector

2008-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have created a new debugging tool for OSM. The idea is similar to Maplint and the Coastline Checker, but the tool is more flexible. In several views (currently: geometry errors, addresses tagged according to the Karlsruhe

Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for student project on OSM

2008-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Martes, 28 de Octubre de 2008, Iván Sánchez Ortega escribió: - Benchmark a quadtile solution vs. a more general geodetic grid tree solution (get the quadtile idea, apply it to triangles instead of squares, put 'em

Re: [OSM-talk] Ideas for student project on OSM

2008-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Freek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not seen those (would be interested), but I would guess rectangular queries make an equilateral-triangle subdivision inherently less favourable, even though the geometry is distorted by the projection i think it might have

Re: [OSM-talk] New Debugging-Tool: OSM-Inspector

2008-10-28 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Jochen Topf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:34:20PM +, Matt Amos wrote: it seems to be flagging addresses tagged with the associatedStreet relation method of the Karlsruhe schema with cannot find street errors. is this is because street

Re: [OSM-talk] Video with all OSM contributors

2008-10-21 Thread Matt Amos
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any other high-quality videos I could download and show at UK Linux Expo? There's a few on YouTube, which I could rip with KeepVid.com, but it would be better to get higher quality originals

Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café

2008-10-18 Thread Matt Amos
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2008, Pete Lawrence escribió: Restaurants v's cafe's are probably more likely to be mixed up. It's easy, actually: dedicated kitchen area or not. there are several cafes near me with

Re: [OSM-talk] Video with all OSM contributors

2008-10-18 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you attended the State of the Map 2008, you will sure remember the star-wars style video that was played the last day, showing all the contributors for all of the planet. Is this video uploaded somewhere? Can

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