keep the OSM IDs as part of the
information about each location, and provide a web service to search by
OSM id.
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managed to mangle my
track to the right format, convert to GPX using GPSbabel, and load it
into JOSM to add my work, but the resulting file still won't upload to
OSM because it has no timestamps. It's also missing HDOP, which would
be useful.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
that integrating these features into Navit (perhaps as plugins),
rather than having a separate app would be of much greater benefit.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
Robert,
I am not sure that adding more features to another application is the
best way to do it - To be useful something like POI and photo
nearby on the map.
I think that integrating these features into Navit (perhaps as plugins),
rather than having a separate app would be of much greater benefit.
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, doesn't sound quite right)
A four double oh four?
A four thousand and 4? (what I would say)
A four oh ten? (generated by above, doesn't sound quite right)
A four oh one oh?
A forty ten? (what I would say)
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, and that it is due to be released by them to a greater or
lesser degree in due course.
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reach an error and let you leave a
voice note for yourself to be able to correct the error later.
It should also let you leave voice notes, and start recording a track,
when your GPS lock is good (low HDOP) but you are not close enough to a
way that it knows about.
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I've just tested it on the Software Freedom Day site, and it works well.
The only site it doesn't work on is Google's own main maps site.
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not accurate and
it's pointing to the whole area.
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one road.
This one has 2 dual carriageways running through it perpendicular to
each other, and a third dual carriageway that ends at the roundabout:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.497691lon=-0.45292zoom=18layers=B000FTF
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have
under CC-BY-SA. The data will (AFAIK) continue as dual licensed in
future. The worst case scenario is that people get to use the data for
more purposes than we intend to allow. These people will stop being able
to update their database when version 1.1 of the license comes out.
Robert (Jamie
for the individual language
layers to fall back to local where a name is not given in a particular
language?
How much storage do the caption layers take compared to the data?
Thanks,
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confident that the resources required are not huge - particulary
as introducing new layer servers reduces the load on the existing single
tile server.
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It would be nice to have a lowzoom map to look at that is just Mapnik
z12 without captions repeatedly stitched and scaled, though - I just
love the Osmarender lowzoom layers (when/where they work).
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it match old_name? Your not describing a name of the object,
you are referencing the designer of the object. Unless you want
architect_name, architect_address, architect_date_of_birth,
architect_..., it seems pointless.
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reproducing the original
boundary, then add those points to the schools (and any other points)
before regenerating.
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for the map.
Also, what about mapping software for blind people, like loadstone
http://www.loadstone-gps.com/. How often should it read out the attribution?
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. There is a Welsh
one, for example here:
http://sucs.org/~rollercow/cyosm/
and probably other languages around the place.
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It won't take the Channel Tunnel, or any UK - Mainland Europe ferries yet:
http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=50.938668flon=1.903311tlat=51.176453tlon=0.82v=motorcarfast=1layer=mapnik
Is this because the database is partitioned or something?
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, add both tags with the same value. But don't leave
operator out.
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a proposal on the wiki?
Not only historical monuments, also modern buildings. Was it Richard
Rogers or Norman Foster who designed the millennium bridge?
I think it's a great idea, and have seen it before, so I'd say start a
proposal on the wiki.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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software that lets you
drag control points in the area, and morphs all the points tagged as
estimated towards their real locations.
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, and it is likely
people will combining the data with other data, e.g. SRTM, which could
be much larger.
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that has been voted for,
because I know that several people have thought about the issues and
more of them thought one option was better than the other.
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. That's normally how democratic systems work.
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originals
directly.
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this in
different parts of the world, and they were all visible on the main map,
the overlay selector would get ridiculously long.
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/OSM_at_London_Linux_Expo_2008#Participants
I think it would be good if we had more volunteers, especially on
Saturday. You really need 2 people on a stand at events like this, and
it would be good if there were more people than that so that people get
a chance to have a look at other stands around the show.
Robert (Jamie
of the days.
What about display materials? I know there was stuff printed for State
of the Map - is any of that available?
Will there be any internet connectivity at the event? Should we bring
laptops to demo stuff?
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on a fully automated, global basis ;-)
).
I thought that the point of open street map was that we have lots of
labour available from volunteers. :-)
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, or would it lock up the
database for ages just to query them?
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version:
http://gpsbitz.co.uk/shop/index.php?act=viewProdproductId=22
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.
Personally, I believe that most tagging should be on relationships not
ways. Only small physical things like layer, bridge and tunnel should be
specified at a way level.
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Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Hello everyone,
Have thought of an approach to make countryside OSM mapping using phones
with inbuilt GPS (N95, etc) easy to the end user.
A user could survey their walk using an N95 or similar, and then, using a
very
, MusicBrainz and possibly dmoz.org and similar projects
are a lot closer to us than Wikipedia is.
voxforge.org is also building something interesting which will have
similar issues to us.
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| to know) how to use relations in the editors.
|
| Then use a relation instead. It's a free world ;-)
No, it's definitely a way, because the houses are spread along the
feature. If there was a node for every house, they should be related.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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which is the kind of thing you get now.
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Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote:
| Perhaps OSM -- CSV, then open it with Ms Excel as a spreadsheet then
| import from Ms Access ?
|
| http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/export/osm2csv/
Why use Excel? Access has perfectly good CSV import
us what happened at State of the Map etc.
If you don't know anyone, just look for MacBooks and GPS kit on the
table to recognise us. :-)
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it since this e-mail from about 6 weeks ago.
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may want different (or extra) tags in the database on the
grounds that it's a completely different situation, but they could be
rendered the same.
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it YAML code and it
returns lists and dictionaries.
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on a way.
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of the way. Sometimes, e.g. if you pass under a bridge,
but haven't gone back to pass over it, you may have a way with arrows on
both ends. That is fine. I'd allow and render towards=[name of place],
but that get's confusing in the 2 ended passing under a bridge case.
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know this. :-)
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between the two at the openLayers level.
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to have a play there.
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requires something on screen whenever a map is visible,
we need to change license. I hope that it doesn't but I am not a lawyer.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
Ps. I think it's completely legit to talk about it here, but I wouldn't
take what people say here as definitive - check with the foundation
But you're a bit limited in where you can draw the edges of your maps,
unless you do CSS things to hide them under other elements (which is how
openlayers does it).
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aren't as good as real paper ones
just because they are first on the list.
Will the postscript output work as an EPS? If so, could we call it EPS
as that's a filetype graphic designer types will recognise.
But again: Nice work!!!
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Jo wrote:
| Robert (Jamie) Munro schreef:
|
| When I look at the USA, I want interstates to be blue. When an American
| looks at the UK, they want to see motorways to be a colour other than
| blue, because then they will understand instinctively what
the
USA style tiles by default, but have the UK tiles on the layer switcher.
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Martijn van Exel wrote:
| Hi all,
|
| Yahoo announced the 'single biggest imagery update' update for Yahoo!
| Maps yesterday. See the post here --
http://ylocalblog.com/blog/2008/04/11/see-more-on-yahoo-maps/
| It doesn't say anywhere specifically
reasons. It
just makes sense.
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| On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro
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| Steve Hill wrote:
| | Putting all of the separate bits of the UK's M11 in a single relation
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| Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
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| If that is the case, then the relationship is essential to convey the
| route of the A11 information. If the road just has 2 numbers, then it
| isn't - just a semi-colon in the ref would do
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| Richard Fairhurst wrote:
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| | Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
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| | If that is the case
is a really bad idea. It will get out of sync, and
some renderings will show one version, others will show others. Use of
relations allows us to reduce duplication.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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- just a semi-colon in the ref would do.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
(who thinks that relationships are so brilliant that long term we
shouldn't tag ways at all - only relationships)
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Mark Williams wrote:
| Dave Hansen wrote:
| On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 17:31 +, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
| I vaguely remember months ago when the coastline checker at
| http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html was quite new, someone
| []
| You
in the future, meaning we will no longer need the:
x=y = x=z,z=y
hack (where z is proposed or disused or whatever)
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than say, opening Summer 08.
Tag it with start_date=2008-08 approx - Summer 2008. (summer being
June to August, give them the benefit of the doubt and put it at the
end). On the day it opens (or when the opening date is announced),
change it to the date of that day.
Robert (Jamie) Munro
or start_date=2010 proposed
or other unforeseen uses.
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| that are not public.
Why expose the timestamps of private tracks. Expose the order, but
please don't expose the timing - apart from the positions themselves,
this is the most private part of the data.
Thanks,
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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on OSMarender output, then
loaded into Illustrator, tidied up, and then have things added and
edited. But either way, the printed map is not the data, it's derived
from the data.
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Sven Geggus wrote:
| rag-and-pinion
Surely you mean Rack and pinion?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_and_pinion
Someone else said rag=yes for a tag, and I had no idea what they were
on about until now. :-)
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of the
| road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world.
Yes it does, because the side of the road determines which direction the
busses go, which is a pretty important piece of information.
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and Firefox to try to work
out which small island is the one that is backwards.
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license the maps from the original providers.
| OpenStreetMap.com is different...
AFAIK, it's usually OpenStreetMap.org, not .com. I think we should
participate in and encourage the this is not for profit meaning of .org.
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a funicular railway?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway
I'd prefer railway=funicular than railway=incline. Incline sounds like
it's just a railway on a slope.
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of max and min scale could be shown -
perhaps with another scale bar at the bottom of the screen.
Thanks,
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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turn
into a thick road with a thin border-coloured line down the middle when
the two sides of the road are close enough to touch at a particular zoom
level. Currently they just blend into a single carriageway.
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) may help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_moving
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_from_motion
See also PTStereo (http://www.panotools.org/)
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will be interrelated. Please make this a non-default option.
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the track at certain zoom levels.
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of all approved tags (i.e. Map
Features) would be generated periodically by tagwatch (or some clever
mediawiki feature).
Also run tagwatch on OSM's servers, perhaps on virtual domain
tagwatch.openstreetmap.org.
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?
There was this post about a year ago. I don't think anyone responded.
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2007-July/005807.html
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validator one, but it still goes wrong in some places like this:
http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?zoom=11lat=24.029lon=-74.473
Any idea what went wrong there?
Thanks,
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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, according to
http://hypercube.telascience.org/~kleptog/last_update.txt it hasn't been
updated for nearly 2 weeks.
It's a really useful thing - if someone could have a look at it, that
would be great.
Thanks,
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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What do other people think of this idea? Would a tag floating=yes on
nodes be a good way to impliment it? Does someone have the ability to
write a tool to realign all floating nodes?
Thanks,
Robert (Jamie) Munro
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I'm sure there used to be a script that someone ran on every weeks
planet dump that looked for errors like these and fixed them. I thought
that the list of errors it corrected was in the wiki, but I can't find it.
Nowadays, it could probably run on the hourly osmosis dumps.
Robert (Jamie
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| What do other people think of this idea? Would a tag floating=yes
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| nodes be a good way to impliment it? Does someone have the ability
scratch this morning(*) before I added
the roads above as I had been trying out someone's custom branch, and
had tried to install a new version of validator only to find it kept
crashing.
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Lester Caine wrote:
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| On that list, my vote would be, in order of preference, 1,3,2
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| I've made a wiki page to collect votes, if people think that's a good
idea.
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| http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Car_park
'
~ and p.amenity='parking'
~ and a.way p.way
~ and intersects(a.way, p.way)
~group by a.osm_id
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~ )
~ and p.amenity='parking'
~ and a.way p.way
~ and intersects(a.way,p.way);
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? It's just a
| webpage with javascript?
We're talking about density mapping millions of points across huge
areas. See this:
http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/gps/
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or python script to
take this list and delete or relate the nodes.
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GPS tracks and existing ways semi-transparently.
* Align imagery
* (optionally) hide GPS tracks
* Then start editing
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at every junction
- - without causing duplication.
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can't wait to see what people end up doing with Fire Eagle and I'm
hoping that we can come up with some interesting applications too.
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Gervase Markham wrote:
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| It's been proposed by me several times in the past. I think it's
| essential. I don't know of a similar major project that doesn't do some
| kind of assignment. Wikipedia is the nearest
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Gervase Markham wrote:
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| Long term, we can avoid the ambiguity by making it clear that all data
| belongs to OSM, whoever that is (probably the foundation), then we can
| let the foundation change the license whenever
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| What does the separate object type gain us exactly, apart
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