Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta

Hi, > I don't know what is planned and by whom, just two things to inform the > discussion - The EWG and I have considered to run an Overpass instance on the openstreetmap servers. This may eventually happen in the future, but for the current beta page the overpass-api.de server instance has suff

Re: [OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta

> Hi, are these links alright? > They seem to link to gmx.net and redirect to the given URL meaning I get a > 404. > Has your mail client done something strange with the URLs? Yes, it has. The have set up a new webmail interface. I'm sorry, I had errorneously sent this email as HTML mail instead

[OSM-talk] osm.org POI display: next beta

Dear all, the beta for a popup POI display has got its first round of improvements. See http://overpass.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ for the live demo. The popup should now be faster: The data is loaded in several chunks, and the first chunk should arrive after at most 300ms. A lot of work has go

[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.7.3

Dear all, a new version of the Overpass API has just been released and delopyed on overpass-api.de. Some more details: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/versions#Overpass_API_v0.7.3 Examples for the improved functionality will follow in the next days. Cheers, Roland ___

[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.7.2

Dear all, a new version of Overpass API, version 0.7.2 has been released and deployed on http://overpass-api.de/ and http://overpass.osm.rambler.ru/ Details of the improvements are listed on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/versions#Overpass_API_v0.7.2 In general, thing are gettin

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

> A)I having problems when selecting any (large) area. > For example a stadium, park, shopping centre, hospital, school, etc where > they are amenity, etc as an area. > > Is that because I am not hitting the actual nodes? Or maybe you are not > covering areas properly? Thank you for pointing this

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

> There are of course feature requests/suggestions. Thank you for the response. Some of them have already been suggested, and I will try to collect them all on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/POI_display > 1) Make it more obvious for people that the POIs can be clicked on. It > doesn't have

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

Hello Peter, > > Having the icons on the map is unlikely possible, because there might be > > simply not enough space on the Mapnik map. > > If I get a popup saying something about 3 restaurants, but I only see > one or two, that looks strange and I have no idea, where the third one > might be on

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

Hello Peter, thank you for the feedback. I've moved all but 4) to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/POI_display to not loose the suggestions. > 4) especially for POIs not displayed on the map it might be useful to > show an additional icon, as there's a "missing link" between "poi > nearby" an

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

> - It would be nice to have a transparent circle where you click your > mouse, > with the diameter of those 20 meters on zoom 18 So you know what area the > baloon is showing. > - When you put the URL in the headline, put it on the website tag too. > Before I read your mail to the end, I tried to

Re: [OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

> One thing about tags: You might want to consider hiding some. > Especially well known import related tags. I'm thinking specifically > of the tiger:* tags we have here in the US but there might be others. > They are obviously a formatting nightmare but they are also not really > *our* data so exc

[OSM-talk] POI display on osm.org

Dear all, have you ever been annoyed that Mapnik doesn't render a name for a street or a pub, although you are interested in? The POI click feature for osm.org now has a public prototype: http://overpass.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ Just click on the map somewhere and all the nearby named items

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

Dear Matt, > > Ideally people from the ecosystem would be willing to write some code to > > integrate their cool projects into the main site. That is clearly not > > happening. > > sure, ideally. it doesn't happen often and there are a wide range of > reasons for it, often simply that integration

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

Dear Pawel, > EWG meetings are one-hour sessions where "random people" like me can say > stuff. It's not the greatest way to discuss major features like > clickable POI's - there is simply no time. So a short "-1" to describe > someone's months of work can be hurtful - I know I would be hurt if th

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

Dear Jeff, > Has a decision been made that that *is* the routing engine that will be > added to OSM? If so, great. I look forward to it. Has that been publicized > in the community? Please have a look into the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks#Routing_frontend The "demonstrat

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

Dear Pawel, > And that's why TTT list moves so slowly. Please tell people the truth, you actively contribute to impede the Top Ten Tasks. Let's take a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks#Clickable_POIs_on_the_frontpage http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks#POI_in

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

Dear Jeff, have you ever though about organizing a market-wide vote whether "Pepsi Coke" or "Coca Coke" is preferred? And put up a "vision" that Coke A shall finally surrender? Not? Please just step back for a moment and take into account to possibility that OSM is more like a market and less

[OSM-talk] House numbers

Dear all, house numbers are one of the areas where in OSM a lot of things are still to do even in well mapped regions. To support mapping efforts, there are two new tools available http://overpass-api.de/api/hausnummern shows the already existing house numbers. This allows to plan the next ma

[OSM-talk] Overpass API v0.7.1

Hello everybody, A new version of Overpass API http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API is available. Please read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/versions#Overpass_API_v0.7.1 for details. The most important thing is that this version accomodates 64-bit node ids. So the exp

Re: [OSM-talk] Role of the Wiki

Hi, > what if I tag it wrong? There is no right or wrong tagging. When you tag, you tell all data users a message. And either they understand you or they don't. There are things that are easy to tell like street names, because this is completely formal. There are things that are not formal at

Re: [OSM-talk] Role of the Wiki

Hi, > In general, is there a method to when the wiki is or is not relevant? Yes, please have a look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/ If a tag appears there in quite large numbers, it is relevant. Otherwise it is not relevant. Whatever the wiki tells you is rather irrelevant. > What's the

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

Hi, > In April 2011 a new schema was approved for tagging bus stops. I've been > holding off for 1,5 years, but now I started to retag highway=bus_stop to > public_transport=platform. Please see https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/14628/where-should-i-tag- highwaybus_stop-on-stop_positions-o

[OSM-talk] Overpass API v0.7: Polygons, Areas and more

Dear all, Overpass API 0.7 has finally reached its long expected version 0.7: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/versions There are essentially three major changes: In addition to bounding boxes, now also polygons can be used to cut out a region for download. http://wiki.openstree

Re: [OSM-talk] Searching OSM

Hi Phil, > Is there a way to search for a node type where it is on a way of a type, or > types? An example would be gates on trunk or primary roads. Yes, there is a way. Please paste way(50.6,7.0,50.8,7.3)[highway="tertiary"];(node(w)[barrier];);out skel; into the Convert Form at http://www.ov

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL-Planet

> The page 'http://planet.openstreetmap.org/' still says planet "created 2 > weeks ago". Is it The new planet? Yes it is. It is a copy of http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet/2012/planet-120912.osm.bz2 Cheers, Roland ___ talk mailing list talk@openst

[OSM-talk] ODbL-Planet

Hello everybody, the first ODbL planet has arrived. A big thank you to all who have contributed. To lift some load off planet.openstreetmap.org, I'll make my copy of the planet accessible (for some days) on http://overpass-api.de/misc/planet-latest.osm.bz2 Cheers, Roland _

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction process is hogging up the tile rendering

Dear Richard, > > This is not a problem of the rendering server backlog. > > It is a problem of the minute diff generation. > > ...which has now been fixed. :) Thank you very much. Now it works fine, great work. Cheers, Roland ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction process is hogging up the tile rendering

Hi, > I made some edits in Iceland yesterday before midnight UTC and the > changes have yet to be drawn (around noon UTC). I think the redaction > process is causing a major backlog in the tile rendering queue. Backlogs > have usually been worked on and finished during the night but that was > not

[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.6.98

Hello everybody, I proudly announce version 0.6.98 of Overpass API. It brings a couple of improvements and new feature that have been asked for in the last two months. You don't need to worry that there are no planet files at the moment. Now you can set up your own instance of Overpass API by j

Re: [OSM-talk] (OSM-dev) Overpass API questions

Dear Alan, > >This means, from 30 April on, you can get with the above query what you > >intended to get. The update for this change is not yet operational. The software is, in contrast to the testing system, painfully slow, and I'm still figuring out what has gone wrong. I'm sorry for the dela

Re: [OSM-talk] Creating a subset of OSM and storing it in Postgis tables

> My current thinking is that I need to: > > 1. download the weekly England, Scotland & Wales excerpts from geofabrik > 2. merge the 3 files > 3. filter out what I don't need You can replace steps one to three by doing a wget from Overpass. Please try e.g.: wget -O natural.osm "http://overpass.

[OSM-talk] Overpass API: version 0.6.96

Dear all, the new version 0.6.96 of Overpass API is available. See http//wiki.openstreetmap.org/OSM3S/versions The most important change is the introduction of a new, more concise query language. You can now search with concise one-line-links (and, like before, HTTP GET or POST requests). An e

Re: [OSM-talk] Night of the living maps 07.02.2012 - Avoid API congestion

> Better yet, > maybe make it an advanced setting string (maybe up to 5 of them or > something?) so that user choices are persisted across restarts. It has taken some days, but now in the plugin mirrored_downlaod the selected URL is saved as user setting and persists over a JOSM restart. Best re

Re: [OSM-talk] Night of the living maps 07.02.2012 - Avoid API congestion

> And here are some problems: Thank you, Toby, for reporting these issues. I've just released a new version which solves the problems: > 1) Activating this plugin seems to overwrite the default JOSM download > action so the only way to start using the normal API again is to > remove the plugin w

[OSM-talk] Night of the living maps 07.02.2012 - Avoid API congestion

yourself, feel free to add that one in the JOSM SVN at josm/plugins/mirrored_download/src/mirrored_download/UrlSelectionDialog.java after line 101. Best regards, Roland Olbricht ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.6.95

Dear all, the new version 0.6.95 of Overpass API is available. See http//wiki.openstreetmap.org/OSM3S/versions It is an intermediate version to make the useful features of the various beta versions already present on the server available as a release. This is mostly the possibility to select al

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Overpass API: new big server, IPv6

> Side issue re. Overpass API > > How might it compare with the osm2pgsql route (in performance, and memory > usage for the import process) for running a local API for a fairly small > area, and with limited data, e.g. highways and wood/water feature polygons > in the UK? In the default se

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Overpass API: new big server, IPv6

> Roland, > > Is the Overpass server source code available? Yes, it is, licensed as GPL. Each installer consists of the source code. The most recent stable version is http://www.overpass-api.de/misc/osm-3s_v0.6.94.tar.gz You can also get the latest development version at http://gitorious.org/~dr

[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.6.93, a collection of bugfixes

Dear all, Overpass API goes a huge step forward for more stability. Or, to avoid corporate speech, fixing a couple of bugs kept me busy the last five weeks :) All known bugs are fixed at the moment, so I hope, I can develop the features in the next weeks. First of all, thanks to all that have s

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API problem with underscores

> When I open > http://www.overpass-api.de/api/xapi?*[highway=trunk_link][@meta][bbox=-77,3 > 8.9,-76.9,39] in JOSM I get a bunch of extraneous relations. Thank you for reporting this. The positive and the negative examples have been very useful to track down the bug. It is fixed now on the serve

[OSM-talk] The temporal dimension (was: Re: Overpass API: new version 0.6.93 ...)

> > [@newer=2011-08-01] > >restricts the data to only those data last edited after the given > >date. This is only possible in combination with another conditional. > > Why wasn't something like [@timestamp>2011-08-01] used? Well, at first, because there is no [@older=..] or [@timestamp<.

[OSM-talk] Overpass API: new version 0.6.93, now with meta data

data (version, timestamp, changeset id, user name and user id). [@user=Roland Olbricht], [@uid=65282] restricts the data to data last edited by the user. He or she can be identified by name or by user id. [@newer=2011-08-01] restricts the data to only those data last edited after the gi

Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI compability layer

> It looks like you're missing the "expand ways" step. For example, a query > like this: Thank you for reporting this. It should be fixed now. Do I understand it right, this does not apply to relations? > Perhaps it's not meant to do that (the XML root isn't ) but it would > be useful to have t

[OSM-talk] XAPI compability layer

Overpass API has now a XAPI compability layer. It can answer the more common XAPI queries, details are explained on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API#XAPI_Compability_Layer Example queries are http://www.overpass-api.de/api/xapi?map?bbox=7.1,51.2,7.2,51.3 or http://www.ove

Re: [OSM-talk] adding multiple relations (bus routes) to one road

Am Mittwoch, 6. Juli 2011 04:54:37 schrieb Robin Paulson: > hi, > I'm currently adding a lot of bus routes to roads in central Auckland. > problem is, it's getting hard to manage. I've successfully mapped a full public transport network with 50 lines and 1500 stops. I've used JOSM with the public

Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI and using a home server

> Hey, thats look interesting! I'm almost tempted to kill my osmosis > planet update. Any experience with daily diffs ? Yes, they should work. Please run again ./update_database --db-dir=YOUR_DB_DIR/ http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] XAPI and using a home server

> Well, there could perhaps be another solution, like running your own > XAPI server - the minutely diffs are usually less than 100Kb, so the > required bandwidth to download from planet.openstreetmap.org would be > less than 2 Kb/second in average. > > But the question is - how large would b

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

> I've split this from the original thread before it derails the one it > was in any further, and cc'd legal-talk. [...] > What could we (you/me/LWG) do to make this more inclusive? Just some bullet points at first, explanation follows: - There is no tool yet to see the impact of the relicensing t

[OSM-talk] Planet.osm

Hello everybody, does anybody know why there is no planet.osm from this week, .i.e. there is no file planet-20100616.osm.bz2 at http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ ? Cheers, Roland ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.o

Re: [OSM-talk] How to extract national borders?

> What's the best way to get an OSM file with the national borders? > > I tried using XAPI to look for "../*[admin_level=2]", or > ".../*[admin_level=2][boundary=administrative]" or > "relation[admin_level=2]", but all took so long that I stopped them and > were producing OSM files that were hunder

Re: [OSM-talk] Detailed tagging scheme for railways - India

> I recently got addicted to mapping the railway network in India in detail > using landsat imagery. Good news for the map :) This is really great work. > Since i wasnt able to find any other railway mapping > project which specified detailed mapping conventions, i came up with my own > scheme w

Re: [OSM-talk] Boundary relation with >5000 members?

Dear Julio, > Some examples of coastline boundaries that I found in Europe: > http://osm.org/go/xVvgL5p-- http://osm.org/go/xX2ApwZz- > http://osm.org/go/eq...@o- > > If it is not the "right" way to do it or there is a better way to do it, > please let me know. Most countries in Europe (e.g. UK,

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

Hi, > You make this sound as if this is about the freedom of the new mappers. > But they are, even today, free to follow any ruleset, cheatsheet, or > book that they want to use. It's just that they don't get a guarantee > that everyone else is using the same ruleset but that's ok - there might >

Re: [OSM-talk] Getting boundaries from XAPI

Hello, you can try a HTTP POST request to OSM3S via http://78.46.81.38/api/interpreter with E.g. paste the XML into a textfile "req.xml" and run wget --post-file="req.xml" http://78.46.81.38/api/interpreter The result is a gzipped XML file. Or just open http://78.46.81.38/ and paste

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXAPI stable?

> But if the XAPI is not working I have to cancel that. > Or is there a similar service I can use for that? You can use OSM3S. Just send a post request with content http://78.46.81.38/api/poi?bbox=15.5337,48.1732,15.7161,48.2362&amenity=restaurant You should receive a gzip-compressed osm file. T

Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI down?

Hello, > Is XAPI working? When I try > http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=-83.56,42.17,-83.5599,42 >.1701, I get redirected to > http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/map?bbox=-83.56,42.17,-83. >5599,42.1701which turns to be an empty page. The bounding box you have spec

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging vague, ill-defined, or "unfriendly" paths

> I suppose this brings up all the stuff about path tagging again, but, how > do people in general tag vague, ill-defined countryside paths? > > The sort of things I'm talking about are either very narrow and > occasionally hard to follow paths through woods, or, firebreaks in forests > where ther

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

> There is still something wrong here : > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry//?lat=51.894&lon=9.1909 Thank you for submitting the bug. Unfortunately, it revealed a larger fault. However, I've added a temporary patch such that the area should work in about 3 hours (22h00 UTC). Cheers,

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

> Something that would also be very cool would be if the script told you > all polygons or multipolygons you're in regardless of whether they are > a relation or normal polygon, and you could filter the result for > country boundaries or other type of areas. It could for example tell > you you're

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

> There is really something broken, compare : > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.8478&lon=9.0282&lang= >de&mode=raw > > and > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry//?lat=51.894&lon=9.1909&mode= >raw Both queries are responded from cache, but from different times. While

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

Dear OJ, > I put a wrapper around the rather excellent > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Server_Side_Script which can > tell you which town/county/state/country something is in: > > http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/WhatCountry/?lat=51.51&lon=-0.05 > > - which replies that the specified nu

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding what country something is in (new website)

> Does the script also take boundaries in relations into account? I'm a > little puzzled by > > which is inside Kosovo with two relations as border, > Србија, admin_level 2, which is seen > and Kosovo, admin_level 3, which is n

Re: [OSM-talk] is_in and similar tags

> > Could someone[1] setup a web-service where you send it a lat/lon and > > it returns a list of all boundaries that point is within? So just one > > website imports the boundary data instead of everyone having to know > > how to do the 'is within' search[2]. > > I think you might be able to do

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM TrustPoints

Hello, > Goal > > Prevent creation of new sock puppet accounts for potential acts of > vandalism on larger scale and spam. Gradually give trust to users, and > give them additional privileges. It should not be in the way when new > users want to contribute normally. It should not encourage competi

Re: [OSM-talk] Is Xapi working?

> is there any other way to get OSM data without going to the main server? > there are no other caches, right? There is a whole ecosystem of servers providing OSM data http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm There are a couple of sources for excerpts or diff files listed on this page. ht

Re: [OSM-talk] Is Xapi working?

> This happened over the weekend too. The request this time was > > http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/node[amenity=studio] You can try to use the "OSM Server Side Script" server. Just try on the command line wget -O studio.nosm --post-data="" http://78.46.81.38/api/interpreter (

[OSM-talk] OSM Server Side Script

Hello, the project I've been working on the last few month now into some kind of beta status. So I you would like a reverse gazetter or a download an area of the size of a city, have a look at http://78.46.81.38 In particular, this might be relevant to the topic "Advanced multipolygons - do w

Re: [OSM-talk] Reverse look-up gazetteer

> Does anyone know if there is there a web service that lets me take the > latitude and longitude of a node and establish which country, > state/county/province, city and Zip/post code the node is in? The most canonical way is to use the boundary data inside OSM. This is usually stored in a relat

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan

> Everything is up for debate. For me, this license change resembles the EULA story with openSuse, see http://zonker.opensuse.org/2008/11/26/opensuse-sports-a-new-license-ding-dong-the-eulas-dead/ and http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/opensuse-ends-eula At least in Germany, this EULA story migh

Re: [OSM-talk] Computing the 12-mile line

> I just tagged up the one I found in the database, I attempted to use > GIS software to create a section where it misses a scottish island, > but failed after 2-3 days of playing, I can't recall who put the data > in originally. > > I'd be interested in seeing any code put into svn for others to u

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