Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Apr 2018, at 21:55, Simon Poole wrote: > > It would seem that a simple way to make the tagging in the first case > less ambivalent would be to add a tag segregated=yes/no (so a unisex=yes > segregated=yes facility would only have gender specific

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Simon Poole
Somehow I don't see anything on the wiki page that supports this lengthy thread. The issue may be that there are (at least) two ways to map a toilet facility: - rough, one node or area for the whole thing, indicating that unisex, female and male apply to the options available within, making it

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Mikel Maron
> That's one of my original questions. What (if any) data consumers are using this data/tags? > > If some popular site/app was using it to display a map that's one thing. If no-one is using the data, and many data contributors (mappers) are using "unisex=yes" as gender neutral, then it doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Rory McCann
On 26/04/18 01:00, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: If most existing data is using unisex to mean "there are both male and female toilets", then it doesn't matter one bit what the wiki says. Reusing the tag to mean "there are gender-neutral toilets" will cause confusion with that existing data. That's

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Apr 2018, at 00:21, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > This may be a stupid question, but where are you all getting this > definition from? > > I assumed the key already had the meaning that Rory is suggesting here. admittedly from Rory who wrote in

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-25 Thread Jo
What I see most often is a room with toilets for men, another room with toilets for women and a toilet for people with disabilities, usually a somewhat higher pot in a relatively big room with a larger door. The last one is gender neutral, of course. I don't think anyone maps that explicitly, as

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-25 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2018-04-25 19:21 GMT-03:00 Tobias Knerr : > On 25.04.2018 15:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Unisex=yes is defined as a shortcut for male=yes + female=yes > > This may be a stupid question, but where are you all getting this > definition from? > > I assumed the key already

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-25 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 25.04.2018 15:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Unisex=yes is defined as a shortcut for male=yes + female=yes This may be a stupid question, but where are you all getting this definition from? I assumed the key already had the meaning that Rory is suggesting here. And at least on the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Apr 2018, at 09:35, Rory McCann wrote: > > My proposal improves the meaning (IMO). A "unisex hairdresser" is like a > "unisex toilet": all people, regardless of gender, facilitated in the same > mixed place. Not many unisex hairdressers are

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-25 Thread Rory McCann
My proposal improves the meaning (IMO). A "unisex hairdresser" is like a "unisex toilet": all people, regardless of gender, facilitated in the same mixed place. Not many unisex hairdressers are gender segregated, with males in one room, and women in another! My proposal is that "unisex=yes"

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-24 Thread Marc Gemis
FYI The unisex tag is also used as a shorthand for female=yes, male=yes on shop=hairdresser [1] . Giving it another meaning on toilets might cause extra confusion. regards m [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=hairdresser Op di 24 apr. 2018 18:27 schreef Rory McCann