Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Matthias Meißer
I asked the admins for the same reasons, but became no response. If they can provide me some new logs, I would do a visualisation again, to see if the apps traffic is still falling. bye Matthias Am 21.11.2011 00:25, schrieb Václav Řehák: Hello, (I don't know if this mailling list is the

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Norman
From: Václav Řehák [mailto:rehak...@gmail.com] Subject: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server Is there anything that can be done to unblock fixed applications? And if there is no will to change the situation, can you recommend me another Android app for displaying OSM tiles

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Václav Řehák
A fixed application would be one that does not use the OSM tile servers. The tile usage policy gives the example of distributing an app using tiles from tile.openstreetmap.org as an activity which is forbidden without prior permission from system administrators. Well, and what is your

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Václav Řehák rehakv01 at gmail.com writes: A fixed application would be one that does not use the OSM tile servers. The tile usage policy gives the example of distributing an app using tiles from tile.openstreetmap.org as an activity which is forbidden without prior permission from

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Václav Řehák
Perhaps to download the very fresh OSM data as vectors? Something like the data layer we have in the standard OSM web map. Do you have real experience with this? I didn't investigate it in details, but it seems to me that I need per country dump from geofabrik.de (~ 230 MB in pbf for Czech

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Václav Řehák wrote: Any tile server provided by the app author will be way behind in the updates. I expect the Locus tile server to be updated once in a week or so making it unusable for my weekend mapping trips. I think this, sadly, falls under the category of collateral damage. The 1% of

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi. I think, the problem is, that Locus MAY BE used in a bad way by bulk downloading. As long as it's used like a browser it would not be a problem and the lock could be removed (I'm pretty sure then that would not be a problem even for the admins). But as it's not distinguishable currently

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Václav Řehák
I think, the problem is, that Locus MAY BE used in a bad way by bulk downloading. That's not true anymore. Downloading is disabled by Locus author in the recent versions and online browsing is limited to a certain number of tiles per day. As long as it's used like a browser it would not be a

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 21/11/2011 14:10, Václav Řehák wrote: That's not true anymore. Downloading is disabled by Locus author in the recent versions and online browsing is limited to a certain number of tiles per day. Possibly, but on the Locus web site (http://www.locusmap.eu/version-1-14-0) there's a big red

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Václav Rehák rehakv01 at gmail.com writes: Perhaps to download the very fresh OSM data as vectors? Something like the data layer we have in the standard OSM web map. Do you have real experience with this? In a way, yes. I am mostly playing with tradional GIS and our national data but

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Serge Wroclawski
2011/11/21 Václav Řehák rehak...@gmail.com: I think, the problem is, that Locus MAY BE used in a bad way by bulk downloading. That's not true anymore. Downloading is disabled by Locus author in the recent versions and online browsing is limited to a certain number of tiles per day. As long

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Serge Wroclawski wrote: I encourage you and others to get involved in the Foundation (ie become members, get active on the lists, tell the board your feelings, vote) You missed out the most important one: help cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Serge Wroclawski wrote: I encourage you and others to get involved in the Foundation (ie become members, get active on the lists, tell the board your feelings, vote) You missed out the most important one: help

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Andrew Gregory
Andrew On Nov 21, 2011 9:17 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Václav Řehák wrote: Any tile server provided by the app author will be way behind in the updates. I expect the Locus tile server to be updated once in a week or so making it unusable for my weekend mapping trips.

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread Andrew Gregory
(Sorry, slip of the finger sent a blank email...) Regarding mobile mapping apps for Android, I'm a part-time developer of Vespucci. A few months back I did a lot of stability work and it now hardly ever crashes for me. I also improved the map tiles by adding support for many different layers (esp

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Ideally we would have dedicated smartphone mapping apps, for which we would happily permit tile/API access. No, I'm not volunteering to write one, but I have a suspicion we'll see at least one such app within the year. ;) There are dozens of

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
/jaakkoh --Original Message-- From: John F. Eldredge To: Talk@OSM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server Sent: Nov 21, 2011 21:24 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Ideally we would have dedicated smartphone mapping apps, for which we would

[OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-20 Thread Václav Řehák
Hello, (I don't know if this mailling list is the right one for the discussion, so please let me know if there is a more appropriate place to do so.) I would like to start a discussion on blocking several (mobile) applications on the tile server [1]. I understand the reasons why server

Re: [OSM-talk] Blocked applications at tile server

2011-11-20 Thread Mike N
On 11/20/2011 6:25 PM, Václav Řehák wrote: But when I go for a mapping trip I need to see as recent data as possible on the highest zoom available to decide e.g. which of the tracks there is not yet mapped, whether a particular POI is already mapped, etc. You get my point... While I don't