Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-25 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
hi, On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: I listed :backward and :forward postfixes for access keys What you are doing here seems like picking raisins from conditional tagging and trying to handle it as a special case. I'm not sure whether you are aware of my proposal?

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-25 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:47:14 +0200 (CEST), Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org wrote: hi, On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: I listed :backward and :forward postfixes for access keys What you are doing here seems like picking raisins from conditional tagging and trying to

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-25 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:47:14 +0200 (CEST), Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org wrote: hi, On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: I listed :backward and :forward postfixes for access keys What you are doing here seems like

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
Christiaan Welvaart wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditions_for_access_tags This proposal does not seem specific enough. Shouldn't it list exactly which simple keys can be modified this way, especially for the :transport mode extension? There is no need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: Christiaan Welvaart wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Conditions_for_access_tags For example, with this proposal it is possible to create both bicycle:backward and oneway:bicycle, while I would really prefer to only have the

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
Christiaan Welvaart wrote: In front of a station, there is a road that must not be used by motor vehicles except busses. This road also is an oneway road, with no exceptions. Therefore, I consider it natural to tag this - oneway = yes - (access:)motor_vehicle = no - (access:)bus = yes This

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-24 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/22 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org: hi, I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - Added a tag for low performance mopeds, because in some countries they are by law neither a bicycle nor a true

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-23 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Tobias Knerr wrote: Christiaan Welvaart wrote: Added a separate tag for cars, because AFAICT any routing app computing routes for cars uses this transportation mode. If routing would be done for 'motorcar', ways tagged as hazmat=no, for example, could not be used because

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-23 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Craig Wallace wrote: On 22/08/2009 20:33, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - only to document current (best) practices. Added a separate tag for cars, because AFAICT any routing app computing routes for

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/22 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org: hi, I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - Added a tag for low performance mopeds, because in some countries they are by law neither a bicycle nor a true moped. currently there is no more mofa (I guess

[OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-22 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
hi, I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - only to document current (best) practices. * Transportation modes The transportation mode hierarchy picture is replaced by a simple outline, because the picture was not integrated in the text and too small to read

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
Hi, it's a good thing that someone finally tries to clarify access documentation - it definitely needs some care. I agree with your reasoning to replace the image with editable content and some of your definitions (such as avoiding to put an entry into the hierarchy multiple times and separating

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-22 Thread Craig Wallace
On 22/08/2009 20:33, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: hi, I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - only to document current (best) practices. Added a separate tag for cars, because AFAICT any routing app computing routes for cars uses this transportation mode. If

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-22 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:33:27 +0200 (CEST), Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org wrote: hi, I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - only to document current (best) practices. * Transportation modes (Note that *=agricultural is not necessarily

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to Key:access wiki page

2009-08-22 Thread Nop
Hi! Christiaan Welvaart schrieb: I changed some things on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access - only to document current (best) practices. It is a good thing that you try to complete and clarify the page. However I must protest the way of doing it: Change the access tag page and