Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-31 Thread Niccolo Rigacci
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:29:27AM +0100, Janko Mihelić wrote: > The question is, can you run your own tile server for less money Wrong. The question is: "can you run your own tile server for more freedom". If the answer is yes, OSM is for you. If you answer "I don't care freedom", Google maps

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-31 Thread Matthias Meißer
Am 31.10.2011 11:29, schrieb Janko Mihelić: The question is, can you run your own tile server for less money than the Google's payment model. If you can, OSM is for you. If you can't, google maps is still ok. Well I don't want get this to political but whats wrong when pointing people to MapQues

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
The question is, can you run your own tile server for less money than the Google's payment model. If you can, OSM is for you. If you can't, google maps is still ok. Janko 2011/10/31 Matthias Meißer > Yes I guess this trend will come and I realy want to slow down your action > Stefan :) > > But

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-31 Thread Matthias Meißer
Yes I guess this trend will come and I realy want to slow down your action Stefan :) But on the other side we had problems with servers last weeks, so why not pointing to the Tile usage policy in the same way? To me the "OSM is a free project, but the server ressources are not" is quiet easy t

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-31 Thread Matthias Meißer
Yes I guess this trend will come and I realy want to slow down your action Stefan :) But on the other side we had problems with servers last weeks, so why not pointing to the Tile usage policy in the same way? To me the "OSM is a free project, but the server ressources are not" is quiet easy t

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-30 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi I was alerted by a large national search company telling me that they are using G* Maps but now they are glad to know that there exists OSM as an alternative (to what has tbd.). And there are also blogs saying that smaller developers will be hit too, especially when their innovative website be

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-30 Thread Matthias Meißer
As I pointed out in my blog post, I would be happy for everbody that takes a review in the data and it's processing ;) But yes I understand thats not good stuff for a press relase. But on the other hand it makes no sense to me to enforce a PR just for glee. As I noted in some Google article it

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-30 Thread Phil Endecott
Matthias Mei?er wrote: Well, another aspect for a press release might be, that OSM has limited resources as well. Maybe this visualisation and analysis of the tile usage by Apps would be a good starting point: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/15190 Friends, please don't do anything

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-30 Thread Matthias Meißer
Well, another aspect for a press release might be, that OSM has limited resources as well. Maybe this visualisation and analysis of the tile usage by Apps would be a good starting point: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/!i!/diary/15190 bye Matthias (user:!i!) Am 30.10.2011 07:11, schrieb Stev

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-29 Thread Steve Coast
You're just missing the point of press releases. It's not necessarily to make a logical point, it's to get press and therefore more users. Something that just says "people should switch to OSM" in the context of this kind of news will get press if executed well. Steve On Oct 28, 2011, at 4:55

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-28 Thread Martijn van Exel
I don't know what point we would make. GMaps users are not only paying for the map data they're using - which they can of course get for free at OSM - but also for a full-featured, well-documented, integrated API with routing, geocoding, vector overlays and what have you, allowing anyone who can fi

Re: [OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-28 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 10/28/2011 6:34 PM, malenki wrote: Google demands (with several exceptions payment for using map and API: http://code.google.com/intl/uk-UK/apis/maps/faq.html#tos_pricing A press release from OSM would be a good idea. Saying what? That we have stricter policies? http://wiki.openstreetmap.or

[OSM-talk] Google: pay for map and API

2011-10-28 Thread malenki
Google demands (with several exceptions payment for using map and API: http://code.google.com/intl/uk-UK/apis/maps/faq.html#tos_pricing A press release from OSM would be a good idea. Thomas aka malenki ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http