2009/10/12 James Livingston doc...@mac.com:
If there is a wiki page which describes a tag in a limited way, and I
want to document how I've used it, what should I be doing?
IMHO you should either try to find out that your definition of the tag
is the one the majority of mappers supports (and
On 11/10/2009, at 12:08 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
This proposal includes the deletion of all voting-related stuff
including the casted votes of the past.
I'd say that this helps prove the point that different people reading
different things into what pages on the wiki say. The proposal
Pieren wrote:
And, btw, I think that discussions about tagging is central enough in
OSM project that it should stay in the main talk list.
You're entitled to that view. Similarly, I think that discussions about
licences are central enough to OSM that they should be given the maximum
exposure.
2009/10/11 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
Pieren wrote:
And, btw, I think that discussions about tagging is central enough in
OSM project that it should stay in the main talk list.
You're entitled to that view. Similarly, I think that discussions about
licences are central enough to
2) Use existing keys if you can. When you use a key, check to see if
there's an existing value that matches what you are mapping. To go
looking, put your key into the following URL where it says shop:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop
3) Use existing tags if you can. When you
2009/10/11 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net:
2) Use existing keys if you can. When you use a key, check to see if
there's an existing value that matches what you are mapping. To go
looking, put your key into the following URL where it says shop:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop
John Smith wrote:
What exactly, in your opinion, should the talk list be used for
exactly, now that everything has been branched off to it's own list?
From a quick scan through the last couple of months, perhaps stuff
like: feeds, Software Freedom Day, GPS in planes, 35 servers from
Richard Fairhurst schrieb:
Personally I'm glad that JOSM's UI is being debated on josm-dev@
because I don't use JOSM.
You should try it. It's quite a good editor.
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2009/10/11 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
John Smith wrote:
What exactly, in your opinion, should the talk list be used for
exactly, now that everything has been branched off to it's own list?
From a quick scan through the last couple of months, perhaps stuff
like: feeds, Software
Hi,
What exactly, in your opinion, should the talk list be used for
exactly, now that everything has been branched off to it's own list?
From a quick scan through the last couple of months, perhaps stuff
like: feeds, Software Freedom Day, GPS in planes, 35 servers from
Wikimedia
Patrick Kilian wrote:
Hi,
In short everything that is interesting to the general OSM community but
not long-winded enough to warrant a separate list.
Is that so hard to grasp, John?
Your basing your argument on hindsight. Which is very easy to do.
Any of the topics /could /have
2009/10/11 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net:
2) Use existing keys if you can. When you use a key, check to see if
there's an existing value that matches what you are mapping. To go
looking, put your key into the following URL where it says shop:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop
2009/10/11 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com:
Stephen Hope writes:
However, I have seen proposals which have improved considerably after
a little bit of feedback during the voting process.
We now have a tagging mailing list for that.
Of course, and it's a good place to talk about these
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 03:51:49PM +0100, David Earl wrote:
Don't lawyers say hard cases make bad law?
It's more law that clearly covers hard cases make me redundant ;-)
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2009/10/9 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com:
Doctau created the following page, and various other people have
contributed to it.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VotingOnTheWikiIsStupid
This proposal includes the deletion of all voting-related stuff
including the casted votes
Note: this is a single reply to everyone who offered suggestions. If
anyone has any more suggestions, please make them, otherwise I'll put
this into the wiki and modify the voting documentation to say As an
alternative to voting, consider doing this instead. My hope is that
people will simply
Generally, I like your idea - it's important that there is only one
meaning per tag (that's why they should be documented), whereas
synonymous tags are not a serious problem, so there is no reason to
restrict mappers ability to use and define new tags. I therefore think
it should be considered a
Russ Nelson:
Tobias Knerr writes:
Frederik Ramm:
(5) Never ever invent a tag that you don't have a concrete use for.
Never plan ahead, always wait until there are thousands of existing
tags that make creating a better solution harder?
I believe this to be a misconception. If
Pieren wrote:
What I don't like in your steps is that you never suggest anything
about communication between contributors.
Russ Nelson wrote:
We now have a tagging mailing list for that.
cheers
Richard
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Richard Fairhurst
rich...@systemed.net wrote:
What I don't like in your steps is that you never suggest anything
about communication between contributors.
Russ Nelson wrote:
We now have a tagging mailing list for that.
Ok : change What I don't like in your
Pieren wrote:
And, btw, I think that discussions about tagging is central enough in
OSM project that it should stay in the main talk list.
+1
I'm still bemused why some are adverse to there being posts in a forum
titled Talk described as OpenStreetMap user discussion.
Cheers
Dave F.
Russ Nelson wrote:
I considered doing so, but this issue is larger than tagging. Do you
have anything to contribute other than stop energy to my suggestion?
Apollinaris Schoell writes:
can you move this thread to the new list where it belongs?
I agree with Russ here.
We still have not
2009/10/9 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
Russ Nelson wrote:
I considered doing so, but this issue is larger than tagging. Do you
have anything to contribute other than stop energy to my suggestion?
Apollinaris Schoell writes:
can you move this thread to the new list where it belongs?
2009/10/9 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com:
The benefit is that people spend more time mapping and less time
coordinating with each other on things that don't need to be
coordinated in advance.
And the disadvantage is that by saving a little time on the lack of
coordinating at the start, we then
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Doctau created the following page, and various other people have
contributed to it.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VotingOnTheWikiIsStupid
I don't think voting is stupid, but I do believe that voting
Hi,
Matt Amos wrote:
1) Just map.
2) Use existing keys if you can.
3) Use existing tags if you can.
4) If you used a tag that isn't in the wiki, document your use of the
tag, so that other people won't use your tag to mean something else.
this is awesome advice.
If there's one thing I
2009/10/9 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Hi,
Matt Amos wrote:
1) Just map.
2) Use existing keys if you can.
3) Use existing tags if you can.
4) If you used a tag that isn't in the wiki, document your use of the
tag, so that other people won't use your tag to mean something else.
this
Hi,
Peter Childs wrote:
We already have too many computer people who get carried away by thought
experiements (yes but if the spot where the road and railway intersect
also happens to be a station and have a traffic light and a river
flowing underneath, what are you going to do THEN).
Frederik Ramm:
(5) Never ever invent a tag that you don't have a concrete use for.
Never plan ahead, always wait until there are thousands of existing
tags that make creating a better solution harder?
Recently, I encountered a crossing where there were both traffic lights
and an island for
On 09/10/2009 15:45, Tobias Knerr wrote:
We already have too many computer people who get carried away by thought
experiements (yes but if the spot where the road and railway intersect
also happens to be a station and have a traffic light and a river
flowing underneath, what are you going
On 8 Oct 2009, at 22:45 , Russ Nelson wrote:
I considered doing so, but this issue is larger than tagging. Do you
have anything to contribute other than stop energy to my suggestion?
you want to move a bit away from the anarchy but don't agree this
discussion should be in the list where
Lester Caine wrote:
We still have not come to any consensus on the general points of mapping
and who is in charge so a dictate from above TELLING us to move to a new
list seems somewhat out of place?
I guess it's a matter of perception.
You see a dictate from above TELLING you to do
Lester Caine wrote:
We still have not come to any consensus on the general points of mapping
and who is in charge so a dictate from above TELLING us to move to a new
list seems somewhat out of place?
I guess it's a matter of perception.
You see a dictate from above TELLING you to do
Russ Nelson wrote:
5) If you disagree with the definition of the key or value, then
create a new key or value with a different name, use it in your
editing, document it in the wiki, AND (this is important) put a link
to it in the definition that you disagree with.
Tonight I was pointed to
Tobias Knerr writes:
Frederik Ramm:
(5) Never ever invent a tag that you don't have a concrete use for.
Never plan ahead, always wait until there are thousands of existing
tags that make creating a better solution harder?
I believe this to be a misconception. If there are five tags,
Doctau created the following page, and various other people have
contributed to it.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VotingOnTheWikiIsStupid
I don't think voting is stupid, but I do believe that voting is not
productive. Here's what I believe we should do instead of voting
2009/10/9 Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com:
The benefit is that people spend more time mapping and less time
coordinating with each other on things that don't need to be
coordinated in advance.
I disagree, there are contentious tags I just won't bother doing
anything with, simply because it seems
can you move this thread to the new list where it belongs?
Hi all,
I'm pleased to announce a new mailing list: tagg...@openstreetmap.org .
You can subscribe at:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
The mailing list description is tag discussion, strategy and related
tools.
I considered doing so, but this issue is larger than tagging. Do you
have anything to contribute other than stop energy to my suggestion?
Apollinaris Schoell writes:
can you move this thread to the new list where it belongs?
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