Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Ed Avis
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes: Could we perhaps shred all this legalese then, be done with the license (which is, in effect, an attempt at codifying things in a manner you and Steve have just discounted), and instead write an one-page statement of intent that says how we'd like

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: For the benefit of countries where a database right exists, and 'for the avoidance of doubt' as the ODbL says, add a short remark that the OSM foundation (which is the entity which has collated together all of the individual

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Ed Avis
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab at gmail.com writes: For the benefit of countries where a database right exists, and 'for the avoidance of doubt' as the ODbL says, add a short remark that the OSM foundation (which is the entity which has collated together all of the individual bits of mapmaking

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Or if I might make a slightly different suggestion: keep the CC-BY-SA licence because that's what we have, and it's the standard adopted by Wikipedia and other collections of free content. Not a helpful suggestion. It's been

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Ed Avis
Andy Allan gravitystorm at gmail.com writes: Or if I might make a slightly different suggestion: keep the CC-BY-SA licence because that's what we have, and it's the standard adopted by Wikipedia and other collections of free content. Not a helpful suggestion. Isn't this rather prejudging the

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ed Avis wrote:  I could start tracing in things from Ordnance Survey maps right away. Note that these maps are 'Crown Copyright', not 'Crown Database Right' http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22crown+copyright+and+database+right%22 :) cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Ed Avis
Richard Fairhurst richard at systemed.net writes: I could start tracing in things from Ordnance Survey maps right away. Note that these maps are 'Crown Copyright', not 'Crown Database Right' http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22crown+copyright+and+database+right%22 Heh. My maps are too old to

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Peter Miller
On 4 Mar 2009, at 16:43, Ed Avis wrote: Richard Fairhurst richard at systemed.net writes: I could start tracing in things from Ordnance Survey maps right away. Note that these maps are 'Crown Copyright', not 'Crown Database Right'

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22crown+copyright+and+database+right%22 Heh. My maps are too old to have this. That would be an uphill battle, but there is a chance you might win. If you have old digital map data, you might

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Ed Avis
Peter Miller peter.miller at itoworld.com writes: The clear advice (verbal so far) from our lawyer is that in the UK/EU map data is covered by copyright (as well as DB rights). In that case what is http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=262 referring to with its 'curious unlicensed limbo' remark? --

Re: [OSM-talk] License plan - minimum-legalese option

2009-03-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: The clear advice (verbal so far) from our lawyer is that in the UK/EU map data is covered by copyright (as well as DB rights). I will quote the following from an Ordnance Survey agreement as much for people's amusement as for edification. Intellectual Property Rights