Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-06 Thread Pieren
Finally, I got it. It's not a rendering issue but huge polygon showing the German Yahoo hi-res imagery : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/44173524 linked with other similar boxes by a multipolygon relation named Germany as outers: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/371423 I will

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-04 Thread Peter Körner
http://osm.org/go/ueR62iP6 http://osm.org/go/ueR_vjAf Doesnt make sense - its just matter of fixing the mapnik config. I think currently it renders a name for all polygons. This should probably be limited to certain types. The Same Problem arises with Landuses:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-03 Thread Tobias Knerr
John Smith wrote: Cartography is an art form, and you will never be able to do this sort of thing perfectly by extrapolation from the boundary. Unless you are working with one specific rendering style on a known zoom level and with fixed font size, you won't be able to perfectly do this by

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/1/3 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com If you want such custom rendered maps that's fine, but I don't think it should happen on a tile set intended for general consumption... the question was: do you consider Mapnik-OSM a tile set intended for general consumption? Seems that you do

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-03 Thread John Smith
2010/1/3 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: the question was: do you consider Mapnik-OSM a tile set intended for general consumption? Seems that you do indeed... Considering how many phone apps etc use the tile set, because there is nothing else you can use to do custom mapping apps,

[OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Pieren
Look here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.6238lon=7.8259zoom=14layers=B000FTF Mapnik is showing a Germany label in Strasbourg which is, as far as I know, still part of France ;-) It's not a node, so my guess is that label is coming from a huge polygon but, stilll, I don't know what can be

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread John Smith
2010/1/2 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: Look here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.6238lon=7.8259zoom=14layers=B000FTF Mapnik is showing a Germany label in Strasbourg which is, as far as I know, still part of France ;-) It's not a node, so my guess is that label is coming from a huge

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 09:37:15PM +1000, John Smith wrote: 2010/1/2 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: Look here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.6238lon=7.8259zoom=14layers=B000FTF Mapnik is showing a Germany label in Strasbourg which is, as far as I know, still part of France ;-)

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread John Smith
2010/1/2 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Isnt it the natural thing to do? Lakes have names, forrests sometimes have and at least in Germany industrial areas have usually names which should be shown on the map. Hmmm perhaps I should have been a little clearer, I'm thinking of administrative

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Lennard
John Smith wrote: It's not a node, so my guess is that label is coming from a huge polygon but, stilll, I don't know what can be a polygon named Germany and its centre is so far in the west... There is an issue that causes labels to (far) outside the polygons, and that is a multipolygon with

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 10:14:41PM +1000, John Smith wrote: 2010/1/2 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: Isnt it the natural thing to do? Lakes have names, forrests sometimes have and at least in Germany industrial areas have usually names which should be shown on the map. Hmmm perhaps I should

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/1/2 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 10:14:41PM +1000, John Smith wrote: Hmmm perhaps I should have been a little clearer, I'm thinking of administrative boundaries, in particular boundary relations, and there is lots of area names rendering in the middle of no where

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Anthony
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: well, I myself consider rendering all polygon-names a feature (nice to see which features are maybe missing in the stylesheet), but for a clean map for the consumer I'd agree with you (though I don't consider

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Lennard, Lennard wrote: Still, this issue always caused the labels to outside and to the _east_ of the objects, and this is to the west. This particular case may have another cause. I think that there was someone on IRC a while ago pointing out the name of a natural reserve on the South

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread John Smith
2010/1/3 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: probably that's a mapping error? If there's a polygon the node could go. Or it could be added to a relation, where the node would be inserted as rendering-location-suggestion? This still might be different for different views and zooms. The

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread John Smith
2010/1/3 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: I think that there was someone on IRC a while ago pointing out the name of a natural reserve on the South African mainland which was rendered way out west on the water. This happens with postcode boundaries too, due to the irregular shape the name

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi, I think that there was someone on IRC a while ago pointing out the name of a natural reserve on the South African mainland which was rendered way out west on the water. This happens with postcode boundaries too, due to the irregular shape the name renders outside of them some times.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread John Smith
2010/1/3 Patrick Kilian o...@petschge.de: Does anybody here know a reasonably fast algorithm which finds the center of the (largest) incircle of a polygon? And would you find that a suitable stop for the label of the polygon? I tried to play around with that idea but couldn't come up with an

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM rewriting history : France is now part of Germany !

2010-01-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Patrick Kilian wrote: Does anybody here know a reasonably fast algorithm which finds the center of the (largest) incircle of a polygon? And would you find that a suitable stop for the label of the polygon? Bobkare of t...@h fame has spent some thoughts on this and devised the original