Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-02 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:34 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Frederik Ramm wrote: If I can get 100 people to map something by allowing three different ways of doing it, then this is much better than getting only 51 people mapping it the one true way. here here This is such a bad mantra.

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-02 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/9/1 Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... which can be fixed at a later time, if desired. Trying to create rules why fix it later, that creates extra work? and what do you mean 'fixed'? i thought having them mapped with one of 3 different tagging schemes was a good thing? upfront runs a

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-02 Thread Gervase Markham
Erik Johansson wrote: Sprinkle your data with note=bla bla tags so it's possible to see what the meaning was. So your solution is to have a database which is human-understandable (with a lot of reading and effort) but not computer-understandable? That seems to break rather a large number of

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-02 Thread Gervase Markham
Christoph Eckert wrote: What I was meaning was the other way around: IMO there's nothing wrong with having more than one tagging scheme for one and the same thing. If there was highway=footway, highway=foot_way and highway=way.foot in the database, what's the (really huge) disadvantage?

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, why fix it later, that creates extra work? and what do you mean 'fixed'? i thought having them mapped with one of 3 different tagging schemes was a good thing? I agree with Dave's responses so won't repeat them. Just a few extra points: no-one's forcing anybody. lots of people use

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-02 Thread Erik Johansson
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Johansson wrote: Sprinkle your data with note=bla bla tags so it's possible to see what the meaning was. So your solution is to have a database which is human-understandable (with a lot of reading and effort) but

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, robin paulson wrote: I think we shouldn't vote on tags at all. Instead, we should monitor what gets used most by the mappers (see Tagwatch and the tool announced by Schuyler Erle). one of the problems with this, is that it's highly likely two mappers will develop two contrasting,

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-01 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: which can be fixed at a later time, if desired. How? Say 100 different mappers are using a particular tag - 50 one way, 50 another way. How do you fix this at a later time without going back to the places on the map and working out which of the two possible situations

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-01 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, OK, so several thousand people are using amenity=foo. Are they all using it for the same thing? How can you tell? true. There's landuse=farm on the Map Features page. Some used it for farm land, some for farm yards (thus farmyard had been introduced, which only solves half of the issue

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-09-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 01 September 2008 9:27 AM To: robin paulson Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway Hi, robin paulson wrote: I think we shouldn't vote on tags at all. Instead, we should monitor what gets used most by the mappers (see

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-08-31 Thread Chris Hill
Peter Miller wrote: [...] we should be really careful about voting for new features in the core tagging list unless they are strictly necessary [...] especially when they overlap with or attempt to supersede existing tags +1 cheers, Chris Send instant messages to your online friends

[OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-08-30 Thread Elena of Valhalla
Hi I've noticed that paths are no longer rendered on the cycle map (were they once? i believe so, but i'm not sure) and that is unfortunate for my abuse of the cycle map as an hicking map, but understandable :) however, it seems that the names remained (at zoom level 15 - 17)

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-08-30 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Elena of Valhalla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've noticed that paths are no longer rendered on the cycle map (were they once? i believe so, but i'm not sure) and that is unfortunate for my abuse of the cycle map as an hicking map, but understandable :)

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-08-30 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, highway=path has never been rendered on the cyclemap. highway=footway is currently rendered, so if you want it to appear, then you'll need to use that tag. was it possible to add highway=path? Best regards, ce ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway

2008-08-30 Thread Peter Miller
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christoph Eckert Sent: 30 August 2008 21:13 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-talk] Path rendering in the cycleway Hi, highway=path has never been rendered on the cyclemap. highway=footway is currently