I hate to revive a long dead thread, but the issue still exists and
Brandon's good idea seems to have been forgotten about. Does anybody have
any suggestions for how this idea might be implemented within OSM?
-Scott
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Brandon Aguirre bran...@cloudmade.comwrote:
I love the idea of using wikipedia article size as a proxy for 'importance'.
My idea was to do a google fight between overlapping labels. (San
Francisco 227M hits, San Jose 93M hits)
Aled
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Edward Betts edwardbe...@gmail.com wrote:
How about we use the length of
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Elena of Valhalla
elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote:
ok, not that likely, but I wouldn't use a tag with a different meaning
when we can just add another specific one;
Is that really so different ?
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Andy Allan
The layer tag is for features which are physically vertically separated.
Agree with features vertically separated. Just sad that you decide
to limit the usage to physical objects...
Here we talk about tagging nodes separated by long distance.
Anyway,
US census has a well-organized system of divisions that might suit the
need to create hierarchy within urban agglomerations and poly-centric
regions.
PMSA- Primary Metropolitan Statistical Area i.e. Greater SF Bay Area
is a PMSA
SMSA- Secondary Metropolitan Statistical Area possibly
Brandon Aguirre wrote:
US census has a well-organized system of divisions that might suit the
need to create hierarchy within urban agglomerations and poly-centric
regions.
I like this--it's naming a region, so it doesn't seem so far-fetched
that it would be in the map. As a renderer, I
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
Or use the admin_level tag.
Pieren
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
Or use the admin_level tag.
Pieren
That wouldn't work in this case, because as the OP mentioned, San
Karl Newman wrote:
That wouldn't work in this case, because as the OP mentioned, San Jose
and San Francisco have equal admin_level rankings (county seat) and
San Jose is larger in both area and population.
As an aside, San Francisco is unique in the USA (as far as I know) in
that the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Adam Killian vi...@bonius.com wrote:
Karl Newman wrote:
That wouldn't work in this case, because as the OP mentioned, San Jose and
San Francisco have equal admin_level rankings (county seat) and San Jose is
larger in both area and population.
As an aside,
El Jueves, 18 de Diciembre de 2008, Karl Newman escribió:
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
Or use the admin_level tag.
That wouldn't work in this case, because as the OP mentioned, San Jose and
San Francisco have equal admin_level rankings (county seat) and San Jose is
larger
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega
i...@sanchezortega.eswrote:
El Jueves, 18 de Diciembre de 2008, Karl Newman escribió:
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
Or use the admin_level tag.
That wouldn't work in this case, because as the OP mentioned, San Jose
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega
i...@sanchezortega.es wrote:
El Jueves, 18 de Diciembre de 2008, Karl Newman escribió:
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
Or use the admin_level tag.
So, cultural_level tag?
Nothing more subjective ? ;-)
Say the truth : we
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
Nothing more subjective ? ;-)
Say the truth : we need a tag for rendering in case of name collision
when the category (city) and admin_level (county seat) are the same
(forget population which is even worst in this example).
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com wrote:
That's the sort of thing automated renderers have difficulty sorting out.
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
(I would hazard a guess that San Jose has a larger economic impact,
though.)
I have suggested that
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega
i...@sanchezortega.es wrote:
El Jueves, 18 de Diciembre de 2008, Karl Newman escribió:
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
Or use the admin_level tag.
So,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:37 AM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.comwrote:
That's the sort of thing automated renderers have difficulty sorting out.
Maybe we need a tag for cultural value :-P
(I would hazard a guess that
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com wrote:
You're still missing the point about San Jose--it's larger in both area and
population (and probably in economic activity as well), and is located
within an hour's drive of San Francisco, but San Francisco is better
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Adam Killian vi...@bonius.com wrote:
Karl Newman wrote:
That wouldn't work in this case, because as the OP mentioned, San Jose
and San Francisco have equal admin_level rankings (county
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.comwrote:
You're still missing the point about San Jose--it's larger in both area
and population (and probably in economic activity as well), and is located
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Elena of Valhalla
elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote:
ok, not that likely, but I wouldn't use a tag with a different meaning
when we can just add another specific one;
Is that really so different ? It is a renderer issue. Mapnik decides
to not draw one of the names
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure it is. If a lot of people want to live in a place, in general that
should make it more notable. Besides, I was only suggesting using population
as a tiebreaker for equal place key values. It's not the final answer,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.comwrote:
Sure it is. If a lot of people want to live in a place, in general that
should make it more notable. Besides, I was only suggesting using
Gustav wrote:
How many values should we have for populated places?
We have 4 now (hamlet/village/town/city). Should we
add more? Reduce to fewer? Maybe just one?
Perhaps something could be done similar to boundary with so many
admin_levels and some sort of default mapping from the existing
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:
Perhaps something could be done similar to boundary with so many
admin_levels and some sort of default mapping from the existing 4
places to their new numeric equivalent (a bit like footway and some
combination of tags
Karl Newman wrote:
As an aside, San Francisco is unique in the USA (as far as I know) in
that the city and county have the same extents.
Oh, so THAT'S why San Francisco's unique! I've always wondered. ;)
-Beej, proud Bay Area citizen
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As a datapoint, Google renders SF and SJ the same way until you
zoom out
far enough, and then SJ disappears.
FWIW,
-Beej
Strange.
In the catholic hierarchy, San Jose (Jesus' father) is clearly above San
How does Mapnik select which place names to render when the cities are close
enough that there would be label collisions in the rendering? And is there
any good way of tagging the place name to give better hints about which
place names should have priority in case of collisions?
In particular,
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.com wrote:
I looked a bit at the osm.xml file for Mapnik. It currently orders them by
the place tag hierarchy (city, town, suburb, village, hamlet/locality), but
there doesn't seem to be any sorting within equal hierarchies (which
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Scott Atwood scott.roy.atw...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Karl Newman siliconfi...@gmail.comwrote:
I looked a bit at the osm.xml file for Mapnik. It currently orders them by
the place tag hierarchy (city, town, suburb, village,
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